Avatar of Grenth...

...seriously needs a buff. I dunno about u guys, but its one of the crappiest and underused elites for me. At least buff it for PvE Anet, if ur gonna turn into a god shouldnt u at least be a tiny bit powerful? (No buff for PvP, thatd be bad)

I wished theyd revert it back for PvE. Back then, It was the most used Avatar on my derv, but now its just full of crap.

Agreed, if they're making everything else so ungodly imbalanced they might as well bring back the old school Avatar of Grenth.

Question for OP: did you actually use it back in the day when it was über-imba, or are you just now noticing that it's become easily the worst of the avatars? I mean I'd even run [Avatar of Dwayna] over it nowadays.

Avatar of Dwayna is a staple of the FoW HM build.

'even run'

pfft.

lulz overpowered avatar of grenth for PvE plz.

Honestly though I would like the imba-grenth for PvE, same with +200 Melandru as well.

Haha Snow Bunny, I know [Avatar of Dwayna] has uses (that one in particular), I'm just saying for the everyday PvE use of KILL KILL KILL there's much better options.

It used to be so unbelievably IMBA for HA, which is why it was nerfed in the first place. A PvE buff would be cool, and possibly make it usable on PvP.

Thanks for making my point, lol, if I have to choose one I'll take Melandru and then I'll find situational uses for the others, namely Balthazar (holy damage) and Lyssa (skill spamming/quasi-tanking) more than the other two.

Also like was just said above, Grenth was/is obviously a PvP oriented skill, but at least it used to be relatively fun to run in PvE. Not so much anymore. Hence reasoning for agreeing to actual topic.

I VOTE for Avatar of Abaddon which gives you the power of all the other avatars + 1hit kos so i can vanquish everywhere then once im finished anet can nerf it thx

Avatar of Abaddon: Elite Form: 10/2/30
For 10...90 seconds, you deal Dark Damage, strip all enchantments on foes nearby per skill used, have +1 energy regen, -1 health regen (for the "balance"), and steal 5 health per hit. Disabled for 120 seconds after use.

I vote for that!

I knew it changed somewhere, but never payed attention. [Avatar of Grenth] if that's what it is now then what was the original? [Avatar of Dwayna] amazing running skill!

before it used to be
While under a enchantment, you strip 1 enchantment from target foe.

It used to remove enchantments on target when you hit them with an attack skill = imba in GvG/HA

Ah, I sort of remembered something like that. I wasn't totally sure though. That does sound much more useful.

I know this thread is dead, but I seriously think this issue needs to come back up. AoG is the Avatar of the freaking God of Death...and the skill is borderline useless. It still doesn't even deal cold dmg, how ridiculous is that? AoG really needs to be fixed by Anet SOON. I used to love that form and I still love the way it looks, it's just useless.

the entire funcionality needs to be changed. Removing enchantments on hit is just ridiculously overpowerd if it has a decent duration. and this unblockable thing is just stupid.

Actually, the only use I see for Avatar of Grenth is that it's useful against Assassins who use Critical Defenses all the time. Other than that, it is kind of useless.