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Hanzo

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Jun 2008

Ursan Ate My Bookah

Mo/E

21 Jun 2008 at 19:37 - 1

So Let Me start of by saying Being a Monk is my Main profession & I enjoy it alot! Well I've been helping Ursans for a long time build up their Norn Rep, So They Can Do DoA & FoW as they get their rep near max! Never once thought of Charging anyone to heal them! Ever!!

...... UNTIL TODAY!!!

I Decided With All the Ursan Hype I would Start Doing DoA as a HB monk! To my Suprise Ursans are now Charging Me to heal them!!! WHAT!!!

yes it may only be 1K but its the sheer principal of the matter! all those long hrs grinding Ursan rep farm, The same HB Build Over & over & over!!!!! to have them spit in my face & charge me 1k everytime they use a Con set! Oh & Heres the Kicker When its time to Face Mallyx the guy using the Con Set Charges Everyone in the group 1k So he makes 7K for his Con Set & he gets of Scott Free! Guess What 9.9 out of 10 times Someone Screws up the Run & gets everyone killed!

And all I can think is Man I paid 1k for that!!!!

So Here is My Solution to all Monks out their! If your in Olafstead Because theirs Such a HIGH demand for HB Monks! Charge 3K!!! Why 3K do you ask! Well out of a party of 8 two of those will be HB Monks Leaving 6 Ursan Paying 1K a piece 3K to each Monk! Now Look at it this way out of that 3K 1K is for the Ursan Run ATM Another 1K is For The DoA or FoW run you will Do later & the Final 1K Will pay for the Con Set of That Run!

Seem's Fair To Me!!!!

Until It is a Know Fact HB Monks Heal For 3K on Ursan Rep Farms!

Stay Strong Don't Give In & STRIKE STRIKE STRIKE!

Power To the MONKS!

This Has Been a Public Service Announcement Brought to you by [YUM]

pumpkin pie

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Jul 2006

behind you

bumble bee

E/

21 Jun 2008 at 19:40 - 2

lol, okay, what can I say, good luck!

Introverted Dimensions

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jan 2006

R/

21 Jun 2008 at 19:40 - 3

Er...Right.

Haven't had the experience of someone charging me for something of that sort. If it does happen I'll just leave simple as that really. There are tons of other groups that are in need of an HB monk. This is also why I really don't play with other people, H/H nearly 99% of the time. Sometimes I do play with guildies and maybe allies.

pipo

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Feb 2008

the fire figters

P/

21 Jun 2008 at 19:41 - 4

lol

but i like the idea, i also hate it when they charge you 1k :@

ap0c

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jul 2005

[YUM]

Mo/Me

21 Jun 2008 at 19:41 - 5

wow, someone didn't take their medication today

amutsch

Academy Page

Join Date: Nov 2007

Increadible Edible Bookah [YUM]

N/

21 Jun 2008 at 19:42 - 6

I agree. When there are 15 groups of ursans standing around each looking for 2 monks why should the monks not be able to charge.

MonkofHell

Academy Page

Join Date: Feb 2008

Mo/E

21 Jun 2008 at 19:42 - 7

I'm guessing Dunkoro, Tahlkora, and Ogden are on strike as well?

kerpall

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Mar 2007

I live in an Igloo in southern BC, neer US border.

The Pig Pen [PIGZ] & We Aint All [NロロB]

Mo/D

21 Jun 2008 at 19:44 - 8

I don't even have to charge, desperate ursan groups offer to pay me

lol.

As for Con Sets, i also think us paying is BS. Cmon, ursan is 1,2,3,4 , you have the easiest job out there, and some of you still suck at it! Maybe ursans should just pay set user 1.2k each, to make up for the monks not paying, because our job is much harder than yours.
It's not about the cash, as i have plenty of that, but the point. We have to pay you to do the easiest job in the world O.o. AFK-ing is harder task than ursan for goodness sake.

Tze

Academy Page

Join Date: Mar 2008

Braşov, Romania

So Far Away [Away]

N/Me

21 Jun 2008 at 19:45 - 9

Actually saw some guys paying monks (1k) to heal them in Olafstead today, but I guess that's because there were very few monks in comparison to Ursans.

In my mind, this is useless, we must play (or help, for that matter) for free. Someone makes a mistake, that's life, we're humans, we do theese kind of things. Move on...

Jenn

Resigned.

Join Date: Sep 2006

21 Jun 2008 at 19:45 - 10

Stop QQing.

If you're part of the team, act like it. Just because you're a monk does not mean you should have less responsibility to the group. It is incredibly fair that everyone should pay about 850g for a conset. People are not charging for you to heal them - they are making you share the cost of being in the group.

Without the Ursans, you wouldn't have stuff dead. Without you, they wouldn't live. Again, quit whining. If you don't know how to share your weight in the group, H/H everything. Your attitude is pathetic.

Team Players FTW. Selfish monks FTL. (And for anyone who has a problem with what I said, monk is one of my main characters).

sykotik04

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Jun 2008

Inverurie, Aberdeenshire, Scotland

The Incredible Edible Bookah [YUM]

A/E

21 Jun 2008 at 19:45 - 11

I agree... without monks, people like us Assassins would be scattered on the floor! POWER BE TO MONKS!

Fay Vert

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Apr 2006

R/

21 Jun 2008 at 19:45 - 12

Good luck with that

btw, these DOA/Mallyx runs, do you get any drops/gems/chest out of them? Or do you give all that stuff to the Ursans who pay you 3k?

Tyla

Emo Goth Italics

Join Date: Sep 2006

21 Jun 2008 at 19:47 - 13

I think this thread is very bad.

DreamWind

Forge Runner

Join Date: Oct 2006

E/Mo

21 Jun 2008 at 19:48 - 14

Hero monks are better than most human monks anyways. Monk strikes have been dead since Nightfall.

lorph

Academy Page

Join Date: Oct 2005

21 Jun 2008 at 19:48 - 15

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hanzo

So Let Me start of by saying Being a Monk is my Main profession & I enjoy it alot! Well I've been helping Ursans for a long time build up their Norn Rep, So They Can Do DoA & FoW as they get their rep near max! Never once thought of Charging anyone to heal them! Ever!!

...... UNTIL TODAY!!!

I Decided With All the Ursan Hype I would Start Doing DoA as a HB monk! To my Suprise Ursans are now Charging Me to heal them!!! WHAT!!!

yes it may only be 1K but its the sheer principal of the matter! all those long hrs grinding Ursan rep farm, The same HB Build Over & over & over!!!!! to have them spit in my face & charge me 1k everytime they use a Con set! Oh & Heres the Kicker When its time to Face Mallyx the guy using the Con Set Charges Everyone in the group 1k So he makes 7K for his Con Set & he gets of Scott Free! Guess What 9.9 out of 10 times Someone Screws up the Run & gets everyone killed!

And all I can think is Man I paid 1k for that!!!!

So Here is My Solution to all Monks out their! If your in Olafstead Because theirs Such a HIGH demand for HB Monks! Charge 3K!!! Why 3K do you ask! Well out of a party of 8 two of those will be HB Monks Leaving 6 Ursan Paying 1K a piece 3K to each Monk! Now Look at it this way out of that 3K 1K is for the Ursan Run ATM Another 1K is For The DoA or FoW run you will Do later & the Final 1K Will pay for the Con Set of That Run!

Seem's Fair To Me!!!!

Until It is a Know Fact HB Monks Heal For 3K on Ursan Rep Farms!

Stay Strong Don't Give In & STRIKE STRIKE STRIKE!

Power To the MONKS!

This Has Been a Public Service Announcement Brought to you by [YUM]

This is another reason why monks should be nerfed. They are stuck up, being arguably the most powerful class in the game. You need at least 1 or more (rits are not good healers) in 90% of builds. Every other profession can be replaced as a generic "damage dealer". Yet most people don't like to play them because of the boring gameplay (Watching healthbars go up and down).

They seem to think they are justified to not pay for a conset, while everyone else has to pay while they make more money after years of 55 monking being the undisputed best way to farm.

Is it any surprise when there is a relative shortage (since you need 2+ in every party) of people who play this boring, overpowered class, and the people who do are stuck up?

kerpall

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Mar 2007

I live in an Igloo in southern BC, neer US border.

The Pig Pen [PIGZ] & We Aint All [NロロB]

Mo/D

21 Jun 2008 at 19:50 - 16

I'm a good enough monk to do without Con Sets, the only reason i would ever need them is if i get in a group of stupid ursans who can't keep agro. Monks only really need essence, and i would gladly pitch in 2-300g for that, however rest are not needed, if Ursans can do a good job at body blocking.

bitchbar player

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Mar 2006

still lost

Guy In Real Life [GIRL]

Mo/

21 Jun 2008 at 19:51 - 17

As a monk i gladly pay the 1k for cons, consumables are for a team effort. So the whole team needs to chip in, why shouldn't monks help out? Are you special? Are you not in the team? If you dont want to pay the 1k at malyx brinf your own consumables and let the rest pay 1k, as easy as that.

N1ghtstalker

Forge Runner

Join Date: Dec 2007

E/

21 Jun 2008 at 19:52 - 18

lmao ...
when i monked in DoA i did it without anything of demands
if a noob starts leeroying i leave
but charging for monking is way over it
if a guy start charging me for his monking services i'm just gonna take my hero to monk for me

Celebrian

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Apr 2007

Stop Stealing [agro]

W/

21 Jun 2008 at 19:53 - 19

i heard running HB monk is hard...oh wait

Arcain

Academy Page

Join Date: Jun 2007

Montana

Insanity is Sanity [SS]

D/

21 Jun 2008 at 19:53 - 20

I haven't used a real monk outside of Alliance mates for so long. I also have a monk but refuse to heal pug groups unless they are newbies and need a real helping hand.

kerpall

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Mar 2007

I live in an Igloo in southern BC, neer US border.

The Pig Pen [PIGZ] & We Aint All [NロロB]

Mo/D

21 Jun 2008 at 19:55 - 21

Quote:

Originally Posted by Crom Bocca

As a monk i gladly pay the 1k for cons, consumables are for a team effort. So the whole team needs to chip in, why shouldn't monks help out? Are you special? Are you not in the team? If you dont want to pay the 1k at malyx brinf your own consumables and let the rest pay 1k, as easy as that.

A) a good monk can heal w/o cons. What does this tell you...
B) Monks only really need essence, even those aren't exactly needed (i'll gladly pay for essence, whats that like 2-300g a person)
C) If ursans can do their job, and keep agro properly (only met a few good ones out there, too many noobs), then the other 2 consumables are pointless to you.

added:

D) Any monk that sucks enough to actually NEED a con set, should pay 1k as a "dip$hit tax"

Jenn

Resigned.

Join Date: Sep 2006

21 Jun 2008 at 19:55 - 22

Can you guys not read? The OP is not QQing about being charged for monking, but being charged for consets. This person seems to think they are above having to contribute as much to the group as anyone else. I agree charging ANYONE for being a part of a group is stupid, but the OP is addressing something entirely different.

Quote:

Originally Posted by OP

to have them spit in my face & charge me 1k everytime they use a Con set!

If you don't want to contribute to a group that is using cons, I can assure you that there are plenty of groups out there not using them.

amutsch

Academy Page

Join Date: Nov 2007

Increadible Edible Bookah [YUM]

N/

21 Jun 2008 at 19:59 - 23

I think Kerpall hits it on the head. The fact that consets have became the status quo of any elite area and a requirement is more the problem than anything. Yeah its nice to have but the fact you can't get into a group without them is where the problem is.

Free Runner

Forge Runner

Join Date: Oct 2005

GW2G

Knights Of The Sacred Light [KSL]

21 Jun 2008 at 20:00 - 24

Failed attempt at recreating the old monk strike. You see back then we didnt have heroes and people hardly cared. Why should people care at all now that we do have heroes?

Hanzo

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Jun 2008

Ursan Ate My Bookah

Mo/E

21 Jun 2008 at 20:00 - 25

My Point is Not the 1k for the conset Its the simple fact I'm working hard to monk & with the aid of other monks keep everyone including myself alive!Before EOTN there Were no Con Sets their were balanced Grps & everyone work equally as hard! & if the team failed it was nice try!!! NOT I wasted 1K on that!!!

I Is Special

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Nov 2006

NJ

To Gain Extra Mobility We Play [NUDE]

W/

21 Jun 2008 at 20:01 - 26

Quote:

Originally Posted by Illfated Fat

Stop QQing.

If you're part of the team, act like it. Just because you're a monk does not mean you should have less responsibility to the group. It is incredibly fair that everyone should pay about 850g for a conset. People are not charging for you to heal them - they are making you share the cost of being in the group.

Without the Ursans, you wouldn't have stuff dead. Without you, they wouldn't live. Again, quit whining. If you don't know how to share your weight in the group, H/H everything. Your attitude is pathetic.

Team Players FTW. Selfish monks FTL. (And for anyone who has a problem with what I said, monk is one of my main characters).

QFT

Stop being greedy b*tches. Why should 1 ursan have to dish out 7k when the entire group could just give 1? Your job isnt that much harder, you maintain one enchantment, use Glyph-> Heal party, and use Seed of life when someones red bar goes down.

You aren't that special.

lorph

Academy Page

Join Date: Oct 2005

21 Jun 2008 at 20:02 - 27

Quote:

Originally Posted by Free Runner

Failed attempt at recreating the old monk strike. You see back then we didnt have heroes and people hardly cared. Why should people care at all now that we do have heroes?

I cared, back then it was impossible to do some missions with henchmen monks, and you would have 2-3 districts full of people waiting for a monk to stop being afk. Another reason why monks are overpowered and should not have a place in guildwars 2, or any other game for that matter.

toastgodsupreme

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: May 2005

United States

Me/

21 Jun 2008 at 20:05 - 28

You chose to be a monk for a reason. Get with it or stop playing. No one forced you to go on those runs in FoW/UW/Olaf. You did it yourself. And I'm sure those FoW/UW groups warned everyone before the runs that people would pay for consets (lol noobs, but that's another thread in itself).

So join a group that doesn't use cons, or tell them up front you won't be paying. But don't cry here, because we don't care.

kerpall

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Mar 2007

I live in an Igloo in southern BC, neer US border.

The Pig Pen [PIGZ] & We Aint All [NロロB]

Mo/D

21 Jun 2008 at 20:06 - 29

Quote:

Originally Posted by Free Runner

Why should people care at all now that we do have heroes?

Hero < Real monk, here is why:
1) Unless you can macro in several weapon sets to your hero, they won't be as good. For example: Defensive set, 40/40 set, enchanting set, energy set, low energy set, etc. Any good monk uses at least 3 set combinations depending on build.

2) You can set them to avoid combat, but they cannot avoid mobs like a real monk can.

3) When attacked, they cannot lure mobs back to ursans to finish off, they run around like retards.

etc.

Quote:

Originally Posted by lorph

Another reason why monks are overpowered and should not have a place in guildwars 2, or any other game for that matter.

A good Restoration Ritualist is just as good as a monk. Some rit builds exceed those of HB monks, and are simply less popular because everyone assumes monks are the uber god healers. Go to guild wiki, and look at some restoration skills. Lower energy req, and greater heals, compared to monks.

Dark Paladin X

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Apr 2007

A/

21 Jun 2008 at 20:08 - 30

lol, I would respond something like that when ANet nerfed "For Great Justice!" But then again, that is more PvP Dragon Slash related, which is now useless. But I WILL hold a strike or a protest when ANet nerfs Shadow Form.

Bowstring Badass

Forge Runner

Join Date: Nov 2005

Character selection screen figuring what I want to play...

Purple Lingerie - :D

21 Jun 2008 at 20:08 - 31

Lets face it dunkoro > real people on monk. No real need for monks on strike unless I can't use heroes.

Miska Bow

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jan 2008

somewhere, Grinding some l33t titles

Order of the Divine WoodChuck

R/

21 Jun 2008 at 20:09 - 32

cons set= hack'n slash= fail

you see the timer go down, want to go fast so you dont run out of cons and BAM!!! party wipe.

Just look for more skillfull ursan player.

(did i just put ursan AND skillfull in the same sentence?!?)

Mr. Undisclosed

I phail

Join Date: Mar 2007

Phailville

D/

21 Jun 2008 at 20:10 - 33

Umm...in case you didn't notice most of GWG dislikes ursan and will just post here to laugh at you.

Alex Morningstar

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: May 2006

Team Asshat [Hat] leader - [GR] Alliance

Mo/

21 Jun 2008 at 20:11 - 34

lol @ OP

Crybaby. Pay the 1k like everyone else (in your group) and shut up. Kids like you are why Livia is my healer.

StormDragonZ

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jan 2008

New York

W/R

21 Jun 2008 at 20:13 - 35

This was resolved in the "great" Monk Boycott at Thunderhead Keep in early 2006. Monks are now allowed to be as evil and/or stupid as they choose to be, they can heal or protect whoever they want and Warriors will not call them the reason a mission or quest was failed.

kerpall

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Mar 2007

I live in an Igloo in southern BC, neer US border.

The Pig Pen [PIGZ] & We Aint All [NロロB]

Mo/D

21 Jun 2008 at 20:15 - 36

A Good healer (monk, rit, or n/rt) is > any conset.

I personally find n/rt most effective, but it is unrecognized in pve, where one would benefit most from soul reap!

If you got a good healer, then there should be no need for the con set. If you ursans made the bad choice of choosing a $hitty healer, then it is your own fault you need the con set to stay alive O_o .

Added: Please, somebody tell me how Hero > human monks, i must see this. I am the only one who has stated reasons why human > hero. You can go about saying heroes are best lol, but without any fact or proof, you are just blowing hot air. Lets see your hero do UW O.O .

Age

Hall Hero

Join Date: Jul 2005

California Canada/BC

STG Administrator

Mo/

21 Jun 2008 at 20:18 - 37

I wouldn't pay a darn thing if I was Monkig an Ursan group just let them use heros if they need a Monk.Hero Monks can't use seed of life.I wouldn't bring any consets either like res scrolls let them pay for that.

kerpall

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Mar 2007

I live in an Igloo in southern BC, neer US border.

The Pig Pen [PIGZ] & We Aint All [NロロB]

Mo/D

21 Jun 2008 at 20:20 - 38

Quote:

Originally Posted by Age

Hero Monks can't use seed of life.

another great point.

lets see dunk do that

Bowstring Badass

Forge Runner

Join Date: Nov 2005

Character selection screen figuring what I want to play...

Purple Lingerie - :D

21 Jun 2008 at 20:24 - 39

Quote:

Originally Posted by kerpall

another great point.

lets see dunk do that

Rather not have seed of life then fail everything because our monk can't heal.

kerpall

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Mar 2007

I live in an Igloo in southern BC, neer US border.

The Pig Pen [PIGZ] & We Aint All [NロロB]

Mo/D

21 Jun 2008 at 20:29 - 40

LOL i simply just log in, 2 invites in under a minute. You guys need us more than you think, heroes... pfff yeah right

.

Currently AFKing, to have some breakfast, in olaf, funny to see all the invites and how little monks there are. Lets see how their heroes work out O_o .

3 of us monks afking here in Olaf am dis1 , come join in.