How come people don't use teamspeak anymore?
darkhatter
What are the primary reasons that people use Ventrilo instead of teamspeak, and is there a way I can connect to a ventrilo server using teamspeak?
aapo
Ventrilo has better sound quality and you should download Ventrilo to connect to Ventrilo servers.
great sir s
teamspeak never comes through clearly and its always terribly laggy and just overall unreliable
ventrilo has none of those problems, crisp quality and fast voice response i guess you would call it.
and more people use vent anyway over TS so naturally more people go to vent than ts for that reason
ventrilo has none of those problems, crisp quality and fast voice response i guess you would call it.
and more people use vent anyway over TS so naturally more people go to vent than ts for that reason
darkhatter
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Originally Posted by aapo
Ventrilo has better sound quality and you should download Ventrilo to connect to Ventrilo servers.
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Fay Vert
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Originally Posted by aapo
Ventrilo has better sound quality and you should download Ventrilo to connect to Ventrilo servers.
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Both Ventrillo and Teamspeak support a range of sound codecs, you can pick whichever codec you want based on the tradeoff you want between sound quality and bandwidth usage.
How does OP know TS isn't used anymore? Most people I know use TS over Vent. Our clan uses TS. No real reason except its what we use, does the job and anyone can run their own server so no need to rely on a public server. Vent can do all this too.
Possibly Vent is more recently developed, with a few features like sound surround, but nothing really significant.
Ferret Deathsquad
I just got on TS this weekend and haven't heard or tried of Ventrilo. I guess I'll have to look into it. I'm suprised I haven't used either one earlier.
darkhatter
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Originally Posted by Fay Vert
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Both Ventrillo and Teamspeak support a range of sound codecs, you can pick whichever codec you want based on the tradeoff you want between sound quality and bandwidth usage. How does OP know TS isn't used anymore? Most people I know use TS over Vent. Our clan uses TS. No real reason except its what we use, does the job and anyone can run their own server so no need to rely on a public server. Vent can do all this too. Possibly Vent is more recently developed, with a few features like sound surround, but nothing really significant. |
Neo Nugget
Never used TS, but Vent is used more often from what I see. My guild uses Vent, so i use vent 
TheRaven
Our guild uses TS so that's the only one I know. I've downloaded Vent so that I could pug more in HA, but have not been able to get it working and since our guild doesn't have a vent server I have no server that I can test with.
I tried pugging once. They gave me the vent address and I connected but sound quality was horrible and my mic didn't work at all. I'm sure it was a setting issue on my end, but the pug kicked me off the server and team rather than help. Kinda hard to work out the kinks without a server.
I tried pugging once. They gave me the vent address and I connected but sound quality was horrible and my mic didn't work at all. I'm sure it was a setting issue on my end, but the pug kicked me off the server and team rather than help. Kinda hard to work out the kinks without a server.
RavenGT
I found the interface of TS to be terribly...terrible.
Hannes
Our clan has been using TS for almost 3 yrs now.
And whoever said the sound quality is crap should maybe read up on the manuals on how 2 properly config it?
We also chat 2 various other GW guilds we met through the game and I can tell you, it doesn't matter if I'm chatting to 12 guys from Australia or 24 guys from America, I have a clear & crisp line. So do they.
And whoever said the sound quality is crap should maybe read up on the manuals on how 2 properly config it?
We also chat 2 various other GW guilds we met through the game and I can tell you, it doesn't matter if I'm chatting to 12 guys from Australia or 24 guys from America, I have a clear & crisp line. So do they.
Nessar
Not sure really...Most of my friends use vent.
I just know that TS lags up my connection somehow >.<
I just know that TS lags up my connection somehow >.<
Orange Milk
When I played a Few FPSers it was TS all the way
With GW it's always been Vent.
I prefer TS, it's simpler and VERY easy to find a free public channel for.
Vent however is more "customizable" you can adjust the volume of each individual person in the channel which I find VERY helpfull.
My previous sound card did not like Vent and people could not hear me well on the other end where as TS I could run voice activated perfectly and clean and clear onthe other end, I have a new sound card but I still can not get the vent set up right for voice activation, my mic is either stuck open, or I have to yell.
As far as Server side, vent is also more customizable and provides easier access to important info (logs, ip's, ect) then vent does allowing easier faster use by the host/moderator.
my two cents
With GW it's always been Vent.
I prefer TS, it's simpler and VERY easy to find a free public channel for.
Vent however is more "customizable" you can adjust the volume of each individual person in the channel which I find VERY helpfull.
My previous sound card did not like Vent and people could not hear me well on the other end where as TS I could run voice activated perfectly and clean and clear onthe other end, I have a new sound card but I still can not get the vent set up right for voice activation, my mic is either stuck open, or I have to yell.
As far as Server side, vent is also more customizable and provides easier access to important info (logs, ip's, ect) then vent does allowing easier faster use by the host/moderator.
my two cents
Martin Firestorm
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I tried pugging once. They gave me the vent address and I connected but sound quality was horrible and my mic didn't work at all. I'm sure it was a setting issue on my end, but the pug kicked me off the server and team rather than help. Kinda hard to work out the kinks without a server.
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Dronte
Ventrilo is much more simpler than TS. Also, I still think Ventrilo has better sounds quality than TS does.
farmerfez
because it makes your ears bleed
Trax Reborn
vent has less problems(like the one that made my mic impossible to hear), isnt impossible to clearly hear when two people talk at the same time, and is easier to use(not to mention u can run your own server, for whoever posted that TS has that.)
Lawrence Chang
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Both Ventrillo and Teamspeak support a range of sound codecs, you can pick whichever codec you want based on the tradeoff you want between sound quality and bandwidth usage. How does OP know TS isn't used anymore? Most people I know use TS over Vent. Our clan uses TS. No real reason except its what we use, does the job and anyone can run their own server so no need to rely on a public server. Vent can do all this too. Possibly Vent is more recently developed, with a few features like sound surround, but nothing really significant. |
TS lags like crazy, and just with GW, but with every other game i played (D2, BF1942,BF2,Cod,Cod:uo,Cod2,......) the list goes on. Vent, on the other hand, doesn't lag. The sound is always clear.
gremlin
I have used Teamspeak a lot over the years never touched Ventrillo it seemed overly complicated.
Anyway recently TS has been letting us down, there where times when the sound cut out when the games caused a heavy load on the system.
Checked out ventrillo and found setting up a server on that was way easier than ts and the whole thing worked a lot smoother.
Its ventrillo for us from now on
Anyway recently TS has been letting us down, there where times when the sound cut out when the games caused a heavy load on the system.
Checked out ventrillo and found setting up a server on that was way easier than ts and the whole thing worked a lot smoother.
Its ventrillo for us from now on
Div
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How does OP know TS isn't used anymore? Most people I know use TS over Vent. Our clan uses TS.
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I know at least 200 guilds that use vent, and about 5 that use TS. Those are my numbers, and they may be wrong, but it certainly surveys a lot more guilds than most claims.
Also, I think the average vent voice quality is higher than that of TS. Of course you can change it, but the standard vent server is more convenient and better quality than the standard TS one. It's like trying to compare something like Sony electronics with some no-name brand electronics. Of course some of the no-name brands will be better than Sony's, but as a whole, Sony will be better.
Hunter Freeman
<= A loyal TS user for 7 years now, over a variety of different servers all of which were active, and never cracked under the pressure. Sound Quality was great, but as it was mentioned before, the quality is determined by the codec of the channel(for TS) and therefore can change. I happen to prefer the UI of TS to Vetrillo's UI because it is pretty, and not complicated. TS lag has never been an issue, and even with the fact that TS has the most robust internet connection of any program I know, it takes a serious interruption to disturb it, and sometimes, it will keep going. I for one love TS, and it's open, accessable UI and features much more than I do Ventrilo's. I have used both, I have played games where I was using both at the same time, under the game, and
feel it is the superior program.
My two cents, Teamspeak is still very much alive and kicking, maybe people just arn't advertising their use of it anymore.
feel it is the superior program.
My two cents, Teamspeak is still very much alive and kicking, maybe people just arn't advertising their use of it anymore.
phan
Cod uses ts ;
Cs uses vent ;
always been like that .
Cs uses vent ;
always been like that .
Infectious
I hurd TS sends bigge packets of crap.
Actually serious, a "computer geek" friend of mine said that.
No reason to doubt him, also Vent roxzorz the big one!! it just does
Actually serious, a "computer geek" friend of mine said that.
No reason to doubt him, also Vent roxzorz the big one!! it just does
MithranArkanere
They set their ciberbrains to autistic mode.
They should add separate unique servers, so everyone went to the same system.
Joining a district would be like joining a voice chat room. And switching chanelds would turn of voices.
That would be cool.
They should add separate unique servers, so everyone went to the same system.
Joining a district would be like joining a voice chat room. And switching chanelds would turn of voices.
That would be cool.
FXCW
Used both and its vent all the way for me. I find the sound quality on TS to be terrible.
dread pirate fargus
i prefer and thus use TS.
tormtk
I have used both and feel they are very similar. I have had lag and bad voice on both, also had great experience with both. If you take a few mins to use them, they are both very simple and customizable. My experience in GW has it about 60/40 with vent just now obtaining 40 but growing. People just seem to use whatever they are most comfortable with, and that leads to bragging about which one they use as being the best.
As for me I use both but my alliance favors TS.
As for me I use both but my alliance favors TS.
StormDragonZ
Possible Answer 1: Some people have very annoying voices.
Possible Answer 2: Ventrilo is better.
Possible Answer 3: People have finally learned to type in a way others can understand... and they type fast too.
Pick one of the answers shown. I'm sure it's one of them.
Possible Answer 2: Ventrilo is better.
Possible Answer 3: People have finally learned to type in a way others can understand... and they type fast too.
Pick one of the answers shown. I'm sure it's one of them.
darkdreamr
It is mostly a matter of preference but for the following:
1) It is easy to set up a TS server for free. As far as I know, vent servers cost a little $.
2) Ventrilo is slightly easier to use, as the client is more full-featured. One key point is the ability to customize the volume of each user independently.
3) In terms of sound quality both are equally capable. Both support the basic codecs, and there is no point in going up to better sound codecs because it takes so much bandwidth you'll begin to lag.
1) It is easy to set up a TS server for free. As far as I know, vent servers cost a little $.
2) Ventrilo is slightly easier to use, as the client is more full-featured. One key point is the ability to customize the volume of each user independently.
3) In terms of sound quality both are equally capable. Both support the basic codecs, and there is no point in going up to better sound codecs because it takes so much bandwidth you'll begin to lag.
ricocheting
couple of misconceptions:
1) the sound quality of one over the other is completely based on settings. you can configure both to run your choice of codecs. if one is setup with a lower bitrate code, sure it's going to sound worse. but if you set both up with the same codec, you'd get the same quality sound.
2) "one server lags way more than the other." this is going to be completely based on the server machine it's running on. if the vent is running off a server thats connected via dialup, sure it's going to lag... there are some RARE cases where teamspeak and/or vent actually conflicts with a game and causes lag, but this is VERY rare.
the main actual difference is the server licensing.
Teamspeak Server License: if i want to run a teamspeak server using the extra machine and my 10mpbs connection at home, all I have to do is download the free server software and install it. then I can have my entire guild/clan/whatever connect and use that teamspeak server.
Vent Server License: if I want to use a vent server, I have rent/lease access to one (or find someone who is renting one but will give me access for free). pretty much end of story.
the actual license for running the vent server software is: 1) you have to buy slots for 1000 people minimum. 2) you have to be a legitimate business with a business license. 3) you have to sign a contract that stating that your slot number will increase in the future.
[edit:] source for vent licensing
1) the sound quality of one over the other is completely based on settings. you can configure both to run your choice of codecs. if one is setup with a lower bitrate code, sure it's going to sound worse. but if you set both up with the same codec, you'd get the same quality sound.
2) "one server lags way more than the other." this is going to be completely based on the server machine it's running on. if the vent is running off a server thats connected via dialup, sure it's going to lag... there are some RARE cases where teamspeak and/or vent actually conflicts with a game and causes lag, but this is VERY rare.
the main actual difference is the server licensing.
Teamspeak Server License: if i want to run a teamspeak server using the extra machine and my 10mpbs connection at home, all I have to do is download the free server software and install it. then I can have my entire guild/clan/whatever connect and use that teamspeak server.
Vent Server License: if I want to use a vent server, I have rent/lease access to one (or find someone who is renting one but will give me access for free). pretty much end of story.
the actual license for running the vent server software is: 1) you have to buy slots for 1000 people minimum. 2) you have to be a legitimate business with a business license. 3) you have to sign a contract that stating that your slot number will increase in the future.
[edit:] source for vent licensing
Alleji
When I started playing people used vent and TS about equally, but ever since I got a new computer (last summer) I needed to use TS a total of one time (I remember that because I had to download it).
American guilds/groups use 100% vent. With euro groups, I'd say it's about 75% vent and 25% TS.
American guilds/groups use 100% vent. With euro groups, I'd say it's about 75% vent and 25% TS.
Martin Alvito
Vent usage in GW is simple path dependence.
Several years ago, THE big server used by numerous guilds was a Vent server. Guilds rented space via donations. Everyone who was anyone learned to use Vent, because you ended up on that Vent server sooner or later for HA or GvG.
Everyone in the PvP community therefore knew how to use the program. A standard was born.
Personally, I find Vent to be the superior program. It's more user-friendly and offers a much wider range of options. However, as Microsoft proved with DOS, this has little to do with what emerges as the standard.
Several years ago, THE big server used by numerous guilds was a Vent server. Guilds rented space via donations. Everyone who was anyone learned to use Vent, because you ended up on that Vent server sooner or later for HA or GvG.
Everyone in the PvP community therefore knew how to use the program. A standard was born.
Personally, I find Vent to be the superior program. It's more user-friendly and offers a much wider range of options. However, as Microsoft proved with DOS, this has little to do with what emerges as the standard.
Trax Reborn
does nobody know how to run there own vent server? running your own just caps at 8, nothing else is different from paying for a server. it is somewhat complicated to set up tho.
Lord Sojar
Teamspeak has an inferior codec, inferior server options, inferior external control panel systems, and an inferior interface. All around, Ventrilo is better. The only thing is, Ventrilo has a slightly larger footprint on RAM usage (2MB larger! God forbid...)
You have to configure your computer to act as a server, and you cannot run both the Client (user interface you login using to speak to people) and the server protocols on the same PC. If you are inexperienced with server configurations, you are going to open yourself up to be hacked by foul users. The best option is to rent a small 20-25 man server for your guild. They are not expensive (60 dollars or less per year?)
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does nobody know how to run there own vent server? running your own just caps at 8, nothing else is different from paying for a server. it is somewhat complicated to set up tho.
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Dallcingi
TS has worse quality and a bad interface and more lag... its just weird.
Your voice sounds like crap too lol.... I guess TS is good to disguise your voice if you are scared of teh internets.
Your voice sounds like crap too lol.... I guess TS is good to disguise your voice if you are scared of teh internets.
RotteN
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2) Ventrilo is slightly easier to use, as the client is more full-featured. One key point is the ability to customize the volume of each user independently.
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I've used both, and i actually started with TS. But after a while i just started to prefer vent. Seems to lag less and has a better interface.
lemming
Vent window is prettier.
Akaraxle
Good players use Vent.
Selket
And some bad players, like Akaraxle<3
Pleikki
i use Vent everyday .. TS hardly because cus my guild orso doesnt have Ts servers