This is not a rant thread , but rather a what were u thinking ? ..... what do i mean ? about ur "zaishen title track" , this is by far the most ridiculous title with an emote i have yet to see in GW, and proves further more that they are not really in tune w/ what the community is asking for ... maybe some but ur a small few. We asked for somethign to spend our faction on u gave us the chest then an emote to go with it , the emote was lame part kudos to giving me somewhere to spend unused balth faction.
Lemme explain, ive been part of the gw community now for like 2 +yrs and for a long time we asked and asked for another emote even gave real titles to link the emote too. You give a title an emote that can be bought ... what bout giving us something for something we may have truly earned. And ur emote came a bit late too btw. And before someone flames me i already have HA emote so its not about that at all but rather what bout giving ppl the emote for the other PVP arenas and their skill and time invested. Im still very much one who believes u should have given a gladiator emote or a luxon/ kurzick emote long before u gave this last one, hell even a KoaBd emote for the higher tiers would have been more acceptable to me and thats on the PVE side.
And before anyone starts flaming how much it would cost to buy it, the simple fact is that most titles like it are bought and dont come w/ and emote and neither should it. I guess in some ways the point to this thread is u should strongly reconsider other emotes for other areas of the game especially since u gave the zaishen track an emote. Those would be of course Glad/ Kurz/lux/ and of course Koabd ... hell give two, Koabd would definitely be one , and then one based on a form of pvp cos another one is needed and would prolly be welcomed with open arms as well as appreciated.
Why Zaishen?
JaiGaia
scythefromunder
Most people have done everything
and are just going for titles.
and are just going for titles.
Cale Roughstar
Where have you been the past 2 months? The QQ is long over with, and people have pretty much accepted it.
oliverrr1989
Yeah I think pretty much everyone agrees on this...another thing is, the only people who would want the emote to /rank someone on death are exactly the people I don't want to play with.
makosi
I understand your point and empathize with it greatly but any emote hereafter will almost definitely cause controversy.
I don't understand why they went to the bother to make those emotes and that title, nor why they made it so ridculously unattainable to ordinary players to max out. Was it to encourage PvE players to go to PvP?
Most PvE players that don't venture to PvP arenas after completing the lore often strive for wealth or exclusive/fancy weaponry and armour sets or achievement titles. By creating an emote and title for opening the Zaishen chest, the development team virtually handed a load of wealth to the zealous PvP community.
Suppose ANet added an emote for LDoA. There would be an outcry at how people can't earn the title because their connection is weak and they don't want to waste electricity spending all of that time AFK. The moral of the story is, there will be QQing regardless of whatever decisions are made.
If it were up to me, I'd give an emote like the /zrank emote to those who are Champion ranked instead.
I don't understand why they went to the bother to make those emotes and that title, nor why they made it so ridculously unattainable to ordinary players to max out. Was it to encourage PvE players to go to PvP?
Most PvE players that don't venture to PvP arenas after completing the lore often strive for wealth or exclusive/fancy weaponry and armour sets or achievement titles. By creating an emote and title for opening the Zaishen chest, the development team virtually handed a load of wealth to the zealous PvP community.
Suppose ANet added an emote for LDoA. There would be an outcry at how people can't earn the title because their connection is weak and they don't want to waste electricity spending all of that time AFK. The moral of the story is, there will be QQing regardless of whatever decisions are made.
If it were up to me, I'd give an emote like the /zrank emote to those who are Champion ranked instead.
Songbringer
I agree that they are not in tune with us. However Guru represents a very small portion of the guild wars community so basing the statement "they are not in tune with what we really want" from just posts on guru can simply not be take but with a grain of sand. So I hope you are basing this off more then just random threads you have trolled through on this site.
I agree that many players have wanted another emote to be added in. I agree that putting in the zchest title was stupid. I agree that putting an emote torwards it is stupid.
Even if some1 doesn't buy the title they can guess there way through it. I have 3 accounts who all got like 150 reward points from may tourny. I put all the keys on my main and got the title. I also ha and ra and ab so I get like 5-6 more keys from a few hours in ra or ha. The title is to easy to be gotten even if you don't buy your way through it. Exspecially since even if you are poor you can get like 25 keys a month just from guessing. I mean it is next to impossible to get under a 100 reward points. I mean I tried on one of my accounts I put rawr coming in last just for the fun of it.
Ok so I will some everything up I mean. I agree with you. However you can not base what the community wants off of a few lame sites because they don't house to the majority of players. I also agree the title is to easy to get and the emote should not be linked to it. O well it is still fun to go up and tiger some1 when they use like r4 zrank.
I agree that many players have wanted another emote to be added in. I agree that putting in the zchest title was stupid. I agree that putting an emote torwards it is stupid.
Even if some1 doesn't buy the title they can guess there way through it. I have 3 accounts who all got like 150 reward points from may tourny. I put all the keys on my main and got the title. I also ha and ra and ab so I get like 5-6 more keys from a few hours in ra or ha. The title is to easy to be gotten even if you don't buy your way through it. Exspecially since even if you are poor you can get like 25 keys a month just from guessing. I mean it is next to impossible to get under a 100 reward points. I mean I tried on one of my accounts I put rawr coming in last just for the fun of it.
Ok so I will some everything up I mean. I agree with you. However you can not base what the community wants off of a few lame sites because they don't house to the majority of players. I also agree the title is to easy to get and the emote should not be linked to it. O well it is still fun to go up and tiger some1 when they use like r4 zrank.
nekopowa
...here we go again 
Lawrence Chang
I think we all know that GW is a grindfest.
Who cares? Its the damn internet, you need to grow up and deal with it. If you expect it to be orderly and ethical, then you dont belong.
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Yeah I think pretty much everyone agrees on this...another thing is, the only people who would want the emote to /rank someone on death are exactly the people I don't want to play with.
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Ctb
I've taken your rant under an appropriate level of consideration, including an acknowledgement of the fact that you use fake words like "ur" and are too lazy to type out "you" or use your shift key half the time.
My response is as follows:
FLARGLMNENGKCLANCVLVH! *TTHHHHHPPPPPPPTTTTTTT!*
Who cares? It's the damn intertubes, you need to grow up and deal with it. If you expect people to not mock internet tough guys, then you don't belong.
My response is as follows:
FLARGLMNENGKCLANCVLVH! *TTHHHHHPPPPPPPTTTTTTT!*
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JaiGaia
sorry if this is a bit old in terms of the whole ordeal but until recently i havent been on most gw forums, and im not takin this from the aspect of just guru as i kn forums only count for a small majority of the population, i was really just wondering what were they thinking, i come from the age of when gw was truly a competitive game with real competitive pvp and realize much has changed both for the best and worst but i truly wonder how they can continue to cater to this group as much when its things like this that will turn away the competitive nature of this game as it continues to do. Sure a game should be fun and enjoying to play but stop rewarding ppl for something that needs no reward.
and this was not a rant, bitch or complain if it was ud here me say oh u suxorz or this is BS blah blah blah , its not that, i just would like some reconsideration, hell i already had the important and access to the only emotes to the game before this so it doesnt really affect me as much as id like to have them give credit where credits due.
and this was not a rant, bitch or complain if it was ud here me say oh u suxorz or this is BS blah blah blah , its not that, i just would like some reconsideration, hell i already had the important and access to the only emotes to the game before this so it doesnt really affect me as much as id like to have them give credit where credits due.
Pesi
I like the chest idea alot, something to put baltz factions on.
but imho, its a title which is over all chars (lets say "accountbased")
That will make it easier to max 5 accountbased titles, and thats cool i guess.
only one thing that.. bah.. its a title that u buy, thats boring.
but imho, its a title which is over all chars (lets say "accountbased")
That will make it easier to max 5 accountbased titles, and thats cool i guess.
only one thing that.. bah.. its a title that u buy, thats boring.
jake jacobs
the thing i understand is how you can be temp-banned for "disorderly conduct" by rank-spiking (hero rank) people in HA (yes its true, it happened to me). but how anet encourages zrank spiking.....
Solas
its better then nothing
I like the Z-key system
I like the Z-key system
Tyla
I seriously doubt someone got banned for flashing a bambi/wolf/tiger/phoenix...
scythefromunder
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the thing i understand is how you can be temp-banned for "disorderly conduct" by rank-spiking (hero rank) people in HA (yes its true, it happened to me). but how anet encourages zrank spiking.....
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How do you get banned for flashing a bambi or
whatever rank you have?
whatever rank you have?
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I seriously doubt someone got banned for flashing a bambi/wolf/tiger/phoenix...
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Agreed.
Yawgmoth
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this is by far the most ridiculous title with an emote i have yet to see in GW
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And a really poorly designed one on top of it.
And far far away from what the community been asking for - some kind of a meaningful overall PvP title to sum up all kinds of PvP accomplishments... and the devs knew about it (we know from certain Andrew Patrick responses) but we ended up with this...
Neo Nugget
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I seriously doubt someone got banned for flashing a bambi/wolf/tiger/phoenix...
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scythefromunder
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Got that right. I probably flash my gold spear at people too often:P I'm not banned yet
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Thats just because i havent /reported you.
pumpkin pie
I dislike the idea that the emote can be bought.
EroChrono
Although I agree the Zaishen title is somewhat ridiculous, it has just become another piece of evidence about what's going on in the game, in general.
I remember a time when seeing someone with KoaBD r1 was somewhat impressive. Now you can get KoaBD within a week with some decent farming. Just as you needed to have R3 to show a rank, now just need 250k/50e.
Everything is just getting easier and easier to get.
Nothing to do but accept it.
Well that depends what you view as the "community", it's a fairly popular suggestion that every single minipet should be available for everyone at a minipet merchant in game for 10g per minipet... You never know to who ANet listens if they want the opinion of the community.
I remember a time when seeing someone with KoaBD r1 was somewhat impressive. Now you can get KoaBD within a week with some decent farming. Just as you needed to have R3 to show a rank, now just need 250k/50e.
Everything is just getting easier and easier to get.
Nothing to do but accept it.
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and proves further more that they are not really in tune w/ what the community is asking for ...
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Mitchel
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Suppose ANet added an emote for LDoA. There would be an outcry at how people can't earn the title because their connection is weak and they don't want to waste electricity spending all of that time AFK. The moral of the story is, there will be QQing regardless of whatever decisions are made. |
thedarkmarine
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...and proves further more that they are not really in tune w/ what the community is asking for...
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...until recently i havent been on most gw forums...
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Orange Milk
yes yes, massive fail title yeah yeah
a) not implementing the title/emote when the implemented the Chest was fail
b) not making it retroactive when the title was added was fail(tough to do I know, but I'm making a point)
c) making this a title at all was fail
I used all but 3 Zkeys prior to the title, gave away the Creme Brule and Firewater, I just did it for fun, since the release of the title I've not gone near the chest and have sold every single one since because i refuse to be a part of this massive fail.
I'm not a super PvEer, but why in God's name they did not make a KoaBD emote and made this is beyond me when PvE people have been wanting a MEANINGFUL emote for years.
The chest was a good thing, a very good thing imo, but the shit that has spewed forth in conection to it since is just retarded
a) not implementing the title/emote when the implemented the Chest was fail
b) not making it retroactive when the title was added was fail(tough to do I know, but I'm making a point)
c) making this a title at all was fail
I used all but 3 Zkeys prior to the title, gave away the Creme Brule and Firewater, I just did it for fun, since the release of the title I've not gone near the chest and have sold every single one since because i refuse to be a part of this massive fail.
I'm not a super PvEer, but why in God's name they did not make a KoaBD emote and made this is beyond me when PvE people have been wanting a MEANINGFUL emote for years.
The chest was a good thing, a very good thing imo, but the shit that has spewed forth in conection to it since is just retarded
romeus petrus
Although it's been brought up before, yet an emote for Zkeys was indeed a very bad idea. I guess if we needed any proof that GW now stands for Grind Wars, Anet was happy to provide the Z title as a proof.
Kanyatta
PvE-ers whined that they wanted an emote that could be bought (i.e. KoaBD) and they got it... in the form of something else. Seriously, if the emote was given to KoaBD like 75% of PvE-ers wanted, you could still buy it (Wisdom, Treasure Hunter, Drunkard, (un)Lucky the list goes on). But, if they would have given KoaBD an emote, PvP would have no chance of getting it, since PvP titles (Glad, Hero, Champ) take thousands of hours to max, and there are far fewer titles.
I can sort of see where Anet was coming from, giving Zaishen an emote, because it could be obtained by both communities (buying them, or farming Balth Faction, respectively). I guess they got the idea in their heads that if PvE was given an emote, then PvP-ers would complain, even though they already have Hero, which most of the community is in agreement that Hero emote should be abolished.
tl;dr: Anet thought they could give both communities an emote, but they failed.
I can sort of see where Anet was coming from, giving Zaishen an emote, because it could be obtained by both communities (buying them, or farming Balth Faction, respectively). I guess they got the idea in their heads that if PvE was given an emote, then PvP-ers would complain, even though they already have Hero, which most of the community is in agreement that Hero emote should be abolished.
tl;dr: Anet thought they could give both communities an emote, but they failed.
JaiGaia
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garethporlest18
To get the high tier of the titles, I'd say 6+. You pretty much HAVE to GvG right now. Course you can buy it overtime but still, to get high up or max it, you do have to do something. And to even max it you'd have to do a hell of a lot. Because someone who buys that much gold will be found and banned, someone who buys little amounts at a time will still take about 6mo-1 year plus $10,000 or so that they earned in real life so hell you still earn the title, bought or not.
kratimas
And I thought the Ursan and SF cry babies were bad,
This thread is a joke Right???
This thread is a joke Right???
JaiGaia
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Legendary Shiz
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the thing i understand is how you can be temp-banned for "disorderly conduct" by rank-spiking (hero rank) people in HA (yes its true, it happened to me). but how anet encourages zrank spiking.....
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I've ranked many a dead players, and it happened way back when at the championships when Anet reps were AT THE TOURNY in Germany and somebody ranked somebodies corpse. I've never heard of it, I'm sure you said something that warranted the ban.
kobey
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This is not a rant thread... ....
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Kanyatta
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I've ranked many a dead players, and it happened way back when at the championships when Anet reps were AT THE TOURNY in Germany and somebody ranked somebodies corpse. I've never heard of it, I'm sure you said something that warranted the ban.
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Lykan
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the thing i understand is how you can be temp-banned for "disorderly conduct" by rank-spiking (hero rank) people in HA (yes its true, it happened to me). but how anet encourages zrank spiking.....
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screenshot?
arbiter
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I stopped reading here. People who starts their thread saying its not a rant thread usually ARE ranting.
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And not very many people want emotes for stuff. Just leave the emotes to HA and zaishen title and move on. Every single time anet does something theres 80 rant threads. People anet is making GW2, they dont care, just accept new content and be thankful.
Molock
There are people in my guild who seem to be wasting all their money on this title and /zrank'ing people everywhere they go. Makes me laugh when I see them talking :
person 1:"how did you get all that gold for r5?"
person 2: walks over and ranks "noob"
person 1:"how did you get all that gold for r5?"
person 2: walks over and ranks "noob"
Tyla
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It all really depends on how the person you rank spiked took it. I'm sure if the dead person knew it was all in good fun; no harm, no foul. Although, some people take screenshots and write letters to Anet. A few people I know personally have gotten warning letters for poor sportsmanship and misusing the emote. I've never heard of anyone actually getting suspended though.
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ilipol
The only thing I have to say about this is they should have added an extra option when you open a Zchest : "Get an Item" or "Increase Zrank by an extra 5 points" so that this thing would actually work as a sink...
Akaraxle
The sadness, it won't go away...
Knight O Cydonia
Pfft rank spike is so old. Its all about the dance spike now 
I don't see the problem with the title to be honest. Encouraging people to PvP more is a good thing.
I don't see the problem with the title to be honest. Encouraging people to PvP more is a good thing.
Div
Damn those PvPers always asking for more /rank stuff.