So, my question is, without anyone QQ'ing, should A-Net leave A/E how it is?
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Should they nerf it and take the 'see what happens' approach.
Discuss
SW
Let's just say A-Net did nerf SF tomorrow..
SilentWhistle
K, so let's just say tomorrow, SF is nerfed. Everyone that CRY_CRY'd is happy and /dance. But, thinking about it, wouldn't it be the A/E's who are the 'winners' again? Most of the A/E's will now have stacks of Ectos, and if they see 'Decreased duration of Shadow Form x....x' , surely they'll be the ones /dance, as Ecto prices wil be going back up, and once they do reach a decent level again, say 4.8, the A/E's will be rushing to sell them, and surely, this will put the so called 'economy' in a worse state than it already is.
So, my question is, without anyone QQ'ing, should A-Net leave A/E how it is?
OR
Should they nerf it and take the 'see what happens' approach.
Discuss
SW
So, my question is, without anyone QQ'ing, should A-Net leave A/E how it is?
OR
Should they nerf it and take the 'see what happens' approach.
Discuss
SW
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[Morkai]
This is gonna be ripped apart then locked.
But - honestly, i don't care what happens, if it's left as it is, i get my items/armors i want. If it's nerfed, i continue making sufficient money the way i used to.
But - honestly, i don't care what happens, if it's left as it is, i get my items/armors i want. If it's nerfed, i continue making sufficient money the way i used to.
fullclip
I'd like to see SF nerfed into the ground and unusable even tho i never use or used the A/E under world build. The perma SF is making it possible for anyone w/o skill to do under world speed clears and making eternal blades more and more common...
romeus petrus
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Originally Posted by SilentWhistle
So, my question is, without anyone QQ'ing, should A-Net leave A/E how it is?
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it is clearly too efficient in farming ectos, as evident by the collapse in ectos prices that have remained relatively stable for ~1 year.
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Originally Posted by SilentWhistle
Should they nerf it and take the 'see what happens' approach.
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At least one thing needs to be nerfed, either SF or the actualy Chaos plains run itself.
/close
I pwnd U
Ii say they just leave it alone. Most of the community is happy with it the way it is. Might as well keep them that way until GW2...
tezza151
it should be nerfed, no 3 skills should make a player near invincible and yes a/e farmers will be crying the loudest but will also have stacks of ectos and therefore be best off again,
lyra_song
Lets dump it in the sewer and say we nerfed it.
Scythe O F Glory
It wont matter even if they do nerf SF tomorrow. Ecto prices will stay low for a long time, because no A/E will want to wait for prices to rise to sell their ectos. But if they do, prices will just plummet again due to the enormous amount of ectos on the market.
IMO, Obsidian is worth as much as a wood plank, cuz ectos are so easy to get. I think im gonna invest in shards.
IMO, Obsidian is worth as much as a wood plank, cuz ectos are so easy to get. I think im gonna invest in shards.
Hiotoko
I'd rather people quit QQing about "oh noez mah online monies isnt worth as much nemore", but it wouldn't make a difference to me. For some reason people in this community don't seem to realize that ectos are an investment.
Lest121
IBTL........who cares? since everyone is Q.Qing about Ectos i won't be shocked if Anet nerf it.........I will call them Stupid because they didn't think about what was going to happen when they Buff SF.
lyra_song
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Originally Posted by Hiotoko
For some reason people in this community don't seem to realize that ectos are an investment.
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Does your house have insurance?
Your car?
Yourself?
Div
I say we buff SF to 200 second duration with 10 recharge, and when in form you get 50 heal/second.
I pwnd U
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Originally Posted by holymasamune
I say we buff SF to 200 second duration with 10 recharge, and when in form you get 50 heal/second.
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Trylo
i got FoW in under a week of 1 hour farming a day (3 runs/day).
the economy never was very stable to begin with, however there is a clear advantage to being a sin/ele in pve. if anet does not care about the pve economic state of the game (shown with Ursan), then clearly the SF sin will be left alone (which is my personal bet).
but who really cares about the economy of a game...
the economy never was very stable to begin with, however there is a clear advantage to being a sin/ele in pve. if anet does not care about the pve economic state of the game (shown with Ursan), then clearly the SF sin will be left alone (which is my personal bet).
but who really cares about the economy of a game...
Targren
Just to spite them, I'd go back to the old SF/Recall/Sliver tombs run for 5 hours a day and sell all my ectos to the trader.
SilentWhistle
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One has to think, what were the A-Net team thinking when the buffed SF?
Surely they knew this would happen.
Big_Iron
Move to close, sir...
Lord Tetsu
i dont csre i qquit anyways
Smokestajdh
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Originally Posted by holymasamune
I say we buff SF to 200 second duration with 10 recharge, and when in form you get 50 heal/second.
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it would be teh prozor B) and make all professions teh prozor also
[Morkai]
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Originally Posted by Trylo
i got FoW in under a week of 1 hour farming a day (3 runs/day).
the economy never was very stable to begin with, however there is a clear advantage to being a sin/ele in pve. if anet does not care about the pve economic state of the game (shown with Ursan), then clearly the SF sin will be left alone (which is my personal bet). but who really cares about the economy of a game... |
As for Shadowform, Anet realised that it would be this popular...as they wrote all of the 3 skills used for the chain. They knew this would happen.
I Is Special
Keep it all un-nerfed. I think it will be kinda funny.
Miska Bow
The buff given to the permasin and the modifications coming up on HoM is just some cheap coat of varnish on something broken; the economy and HoM.
Trax Reborn
nerf it. then ty.
JONO51
Keep it as it is. Eventually ecto's just wont be worth farming.
Kanyatta
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Originally Posted by SilentWhistle
Most of the A/E's will now have stacks of Ectos, and if they see 'Decreased duration of Shadow Form x....x' , surely they'll be the ones /dance, as Ecto prices wil be going back up, and once they do reach a decent level again, say 4.8, the A/E's will be rushing to sell them, and surely, this will put the so called 'economy' in a worse state than it already is.
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Tyla
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Originally Posted by Berek
Why bring Ursan to this? You're only making more arguments. Ursan is fine as it is.
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Kthx.
As for Shadow Form, I won't be bothered if it got nerfed. The fact stands skills that create godmode, or anything near godmode shouldn't exist in any game.
Mesmer in Need
As far as I'm concerned, if they were going to nerf it, they wouldn't have buffed it in the first place. They also would have done something already. Same with ursan.
Yawgmoth
That would be 2 great things happening in 1 week - too good to be true.
dread pirate fargus
I say buff it so that pesky traps, touch skills, and environmental skills dont affect you. make you impervious to all kinds of damage. and get rid of the need to use GoS +paradox, just give it a duration of 10 minutes and a damage buff of 200% to all spells and attacks. hell let it come with built in sliver armour and mending.
i dont care because other peoples achievements do NOT devalue my own.
i dont care because other peoples achievements do NOT devalue my own.
natespizer
Need to wait i haven't made my A/E yet
haha
haha
BlackSephir
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Originally Posted by SilentWhistle
So, my question is, without anyone QQ'ing, should A-Net leave A/E how it is? |
If AN nerfed SF tomorrow I'd be like "why just only SF, when other builds are also destroying the economy (lol)?"
WingsOfDarkness
Thinking about all this stuff the last days you know it really makes no difference.There are loads of ways to make money and whether or not Ectos drop or raise, people will continue to find ways to make money.Ursan and Perma Sin both get ranted about the most.Everyone has their own opinion.But really I guess perma Sin's are going to nerf themselves, as they over farm things to the point that eventually the things they get won't be worth anything.There are so many ways to make money in this game.If being invincible, alone, and just randomly clicking the same buttons unchallenged for hours on end is someone's idea of fun, so be it.As long as they don't do it for gold.Because they are fast dropping the amount they earn, on their own.The way's I make money *most of the time* perma sin has no effect on at least not negatively so I guess whatever XD
absolutcrobi
/facepalm
not this s$%t again.
not this s$%t again.
farmerfez
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Originally Posted by Lyynyyrd
I'd Bitch Because I Sold 250 Ecto @ 3.7k A Pop Two Days Ago.
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Sora267
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Originally Posted by farmerfez
Well your stupid
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Damian979
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Originally Posted by fullclip
I'd like to see SF nerfed into the ground and unusable even tho i never use or used the A/E under world build. The perma SF is making it possible for anyone w/o skill to do under world
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so I guess if [Glyph of Swiftness][Deadly Paradox][Shadow Form] involves no skill then[Protective Spirit][Healing Breeze] and a -50 ciesta doesn't, [Mantra of Earth][Stone Striker][Stoneflesh Aura][Obsidian Flesh] doesn't... hey wait a minute, farming in general must just be for no talent noobs.
The skill doesn't lye in being able to maintain a few skills, it's about being able to maintain the skills and accomplish something while you're at it. Please don't make declarations about something you admit you have never done yourself.
Trenixz
Anet never said, "Oh, if you want to store money, ectos are a good form of currency." Ectos were intended to be rare crafting materials, so i don't think the argument that it hurts people with stacks of ectos is really going to call for a nerf. As people have said, ectos are an investment, which has started to go down in value. It happens in real life all the time, so stop crying and get on with the game.
Dronte
I've got all my money in gold & platinum, all the status symbols lost their value already (tormented items, FoW armor), so I really dont care any more.
But I'd say nerf it just for the lulz.
But I'd say nerf it just for the lulz.
toastgodsupreme
Let's say no one else ever made a thread bitching about a skill in PVE because it was "overpowered". What do you think the forums would be like?
Would it be like the world that John Lennon sang about in the song "Imagine"? Would it be paradise?
Would it be like the world that John Lennon sang about in the song "Imagine"? Would it be paradise?
Dark Paladin X
O, this thread really needs to be locked. To much debate and arguing here.
If they go the extent of ubernerfing it, the losers will be the A/E or A/Me since they create a similar build that will allow them to easily solo farm in the UW and unable to get ectos easily. I am putting into consideration of creating a SS necro when Shadow Form gets nerfed. But oh boy, if they nerf it, I am going to create the GW first recorded riot ever.
so QQ when ectos price gets lower, lower price for obby armor is better. It's not like 1.2k loss will kill ya.
If they go the extent of ubernerfing it, the losers will be the A/E or A/Me since they create a similar build that will allow them to easily solo farm in the UW and unable to get ectos easily. I am putting into consideration of creating a SS necro when Shadow Form gets nerfed. But oh boy, if they nerf it, I am going to create the GW first recorded riot ever.
so QQ when ectos price gets lower, lower price for obby armor is better. It's not like 1.2k loss will kill ya.