Guild wars and mac
Monkty Monk
if theres a thread for this can someone send me a link to it. But if not can you play guild wars on mac?
Gift3d
Games.... on a mac? LOL!
Cahalith
Depends on your Mac. Intel Macs can use BootCamp to start up into a Windows installation and run Guild Wars normally. However, if you have a PowerPC Mac, you either need access to a Windows computer or you're completely out of luck, sorry.
FlamingMetroid
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Games.... on a mac? LOL!
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srsly just deal with windows like everyone else >_>
also, use the tech forum for this pl0x
Monkty Monk
man the only reason im using this windows things is cause of games.... this sucks.... next ill try that bootcamp thing or whatever.
Tarun
It must be done.
Lord Sojar
LOL @ that.
Yes, very few games are ported to Mac OS X. However, that may change seeing as how the customer base seems to leaning more and more towards Mac. Apple is moving at a massive momentum, and nothing can seem to stop them. Steve Jobs will soon be the new Gates if this trend continues. Their new Snow Leopard OS is amazing, absolutely amazing.
But for gaming, for the time, you must use Windows. Bootcamp allows you to have both OSes on your system and choose which to boot into. Funny enough, Apple Powerbooks run Vista the best out of any notebook in their class. Oh the irony.
Yes, very few games are ported to Mac OS X. However, that may change seeing as how the customer base seems to leaning more and more towards Mac. Apple is moving at a massive momentum, and nothing can seem to stop them. Steve Jobs will soon be the new Gates if this trend continues. Their new Snow Leopard OS is amazing, absolutely amazing.
But for gaming, for the time, you must use Windows. Bootcamp allows you to have both OSes on your system and choose which to boot into. Funny enough, Apple Powerbooks run Vista the best out of any notebook in their class. Oh the irony.
Etta
OSX = no games, windows = games, kk? Get a bootcamp and either XP sp2 or Vista and you're good to go, 32 bit only remember that. Some window emulator do work and will let you play windows game on OSX but there're also compatibilities issues like DX and such.
So bootcamp is your best bet.
So bootcamp is your best bet.
obsidian ectoplasm
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It must be done.
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You made my day
Tarun
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You made my day
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zamial
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But for gaming, for the time, you must use Windows. Bootcamp allows you to have both OSes on your system and choose which to boot into. Funny enough, Apple Powerbooks run Vista the best out of any notebook in their class. Oh the irony.
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Mac needs to stay alive or billy boy is in deep doo-doo. Besides who better to test out the "new technology", than billy's fishing buddy.
The "air books" are slick BUT NOT FOR PERFORMANCE. the usb 3.0? mother board mounted harddrive is dandy at small or dog slow transfer speeds.
RULE of thumb: Are you a graphics designer or high end video editor?
if yes: mac is for you.
if no: get a pc.
if I hate M$, like to get free stuff (like software), and don't mind stress: linix is for you (this is still built on a pc platform)
Cyb3r
Yep got to agree there zamial
And about linux 64 bit you'd be surprised how much better it runs servers for gaming purposes
(one coming in mind is Ut2K4)
But yes mac is more geared towards graphics designing than towards gaming.
There are games that run on mac (Think neverwinter nights and Warcraft 3 for example (not sure)) but almost next to none.
And about linux 64 bit you'd be surprised how much better it runs servers for gaming purposes
(one coming in mind is Ut2K4)But yes mac is more geared towards graphics designing than towards gaming.
There are games that run on mac (Think neverwinter nights and Warcraft 3 for example (not sure)) but almost next to none.
Dark Kal
I've accidentally bought Discworld and Broken Sword for Mac when I was younger. Since I came across Mac games so extremely rarely. It kind of felt like like a cruel joke, like 99.9% of the time we sell PC games but that 0.1% of the time, Mac game baby. Never bothered returning them since I bought them cheap for 5 euros or so, now they're collecting dust in the attic.
Avai
Monkty, a friend of mine uses CrossOver. I only use Macs for cross-platform apps like Cubase because I'm too cheap to buy the superior Mac software for those types of projects...
But as far as games are concerned, Windows is sort of ftw I suppose. :'(
But as far as games are concerned, Windows is sort of ftw I suppose. :'(
RoyalPredator
L I S T E N T O M E B R O T H E R S ! ! !
I'm using MAC Pro in my office, and sometime im playing on it.
Well, the configuration is enought to run Crysis on FULL!
But the new Apple- Leopard OSX can run WINDOWS on your computer, yes, on your machintos!
Check this with Video: http://www.apple.com/macosx/features/bootcamp.html
Or Get one of this: http://www.apple.com/macpro/
I'm using MAC Pro in my office, and sometime im playing on it.
Well, the configuration is enought to run Crysis on FULL!
But the new Apple- Leopard OSX can run WINDOWS on your computer, yes, on your machintos!
Check this with Video: http://www.apple.com/macosx/features/bootcamp.html
Or Get one of this: http://www.apple.com/macpro/
Snograt
I still say that a Mac running PC programs via Bootcamp is a PC.
Tarun
Well Snog, a Mac is a PC. After all, it's a Personal Computer.
That's why I laugh at the Mac commercials. They bash PCs and they're just bashing themselves too. :P
That's why I laugh at the Mac commercials. They bash PCs and they're just bashing themselves too. :P
Lurid
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RULE of thumb: Are you a graphics designer or high end video editor?
if yes: mac is for you. if no: get a pc. if I hate M$, like to get free stuff (like software), and don't mind stress: linix is for you (this is still built on a pc platform) |
Linux** Its not really the same thing at all, unless you get a GUI skin that resembles Windows. Certain distros are more user friendly to someone new to Linux, however others can be just as much if not more so stressful than Windows. Everything has a plus side and a down side, it just so happens to be that DirectX is the standard and we've gotta shell out the cash for Windows...or deal with shitty emulators.
Etta
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Well Snog, a Mac is a PC. After all, it's a Personal Computer.
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Dr. who is right. It's all about OSX vs Windows.
RoyalPredator
Check this...
My Vista with Mac systemfiles.
But my mac pro is more than enought to play this sh*tty game
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My Vista with Mac systemfiles.
But my mac pro is more than enought to play this sh*tty game
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Snograt
Guild Wars Reloaded? I smell a torrent...
RoyalPredator
GWR Is only the Guild Wars with my own mods.
Faces, 100% clear textures, skin replacements.
Nothing special
Faces, 100% clear textures, skin replacements.
Nothing special
Lord Sojar
Emulators blow. That is all.
Snograt
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GWR Is only the Guild Wars with my own mods.
Faces, 100% clear textures, skin replacements. Nothing special |
Woop Shotty
those with a mac pro, may I recommend buying the ATI 3870 mac n of edition when of comes out in the next couple weeks.
RoyalPredator
Nah, just buy a GForce 8800GTS like me.
Woop Shotty
No thanks, I will definitely get the aforementioned card because it comes with support for the Mac Pro, is PnP, less expensive, and is also said to have great performance with Mac OS X's GUI. I don't want to bother with flashing the ROM on the 8800 GTS to some GT ROM just to make it function, when the performance of both cards are comparable.
Lord Sojar
Umm 8800GT > 3870, lawl. The G92 will kick that ATi card into oblivion. They are not comparable.
Woop Shotty
Not according to the benchmarks I saw. Can you show me what I might have missed that proves it?
Tamuril elansar
wrong benchmarks than, the G92 card ownz the ati 3000 series
Kattar
Benchmarks =/= real results. Not necessarily anyway.
Woop Shotty
Well after I made that post, I went and researched further. The way I see it, the two cards are comparable. The 3870 is generally 5-10 FPS less, but is less expensive. I think that my greater concern is with the stability of the card I choose, and it seems that the 3870 offers up something better.
I still have a couple weeks to think about it, because the Mac and PC edition isn't selling yet, but I think I feel more comfortable with the 3870.
Also, when you upgrade from a 7300GT, as Mac Pro users would be, either one seems like a great card. If I can just make CoD4 run in less than minimum settings with a decent frame rate, I will be very happy. Back when I used my gaming PC, I would totally leaned toward a card that outperforms by any amount, but those aren't exactly the days anymore. The stupid 7300GT doesn't even run GW well at low settings...
I still have a couple weeks to think about it, because the Mac and PC edition isn't selling yet, but I think I feel more comfortable with the 3870.
Also, when you upgrade from a 7300GT, as Mac Pro users would be, either one seems like a great card. If I can just make CoD4 run in less than minimum settings with a decent frame rate, I will be very happy. Back when I used my gaming PC, I would totally leaned toward a card that outperforms by any amount, but those aren't exactly the days anymore. The stupid 7300GT doesn't even run GW well at low settings...
Kattar
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I think I feel more comfortable with the 3870.
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Woop Shotty
Well, to be honest, I've had bad experiences from both Nvidia and ATI. Better experiences with Nvidia than ATi, though. I had a couple 6600 GTs from Evga that I used in SLI until I realized the performance was no better with 2 than 1, and they would overheat like crazy, causing the computer to shutdown. ATI make much worse drivers than Nvidia, although neither of them have ever impressed me much. Nvidia offers fast demo downloads on their well-made website.
I still do need to think about it a little more to be sure of it. When I bought my Mac Pro, I think they offered to put a 8600 GT in it for around $250 more, and I said no way Jose. I think it was a good choice, because now, no matter my choice of cards, I'm looking into putting a much better card into my comp instead.
I didn't really mean to change the subject. I just wanted to give a little update for the Mac users out there who might not have seen that they're finally offering more video cards for intel Mac Pros.
I still do need to think about it a little more to be sure of it. When I bought my Mac Pro, I think they offered to put a 8600 GT in it for around $250 more, and I said no way Jose. I think it was a good choice, because now, no matter my choice of cards, I'm looking into putting a much better card into my comp instead.
I didn't really mean to change the subject. I just wanted to give a little update for the Mac users out there who might not have seen that they're finally offering more video cards for intel Mac Pros.
Etta
Wait, why did you have 7300GT in your mac pro? Mine came with 8800 GT since the day I bought it (with company discount ) awhile back, was gonna go for Quadro but changed my mind.
I wish I get the imac instead, it's so sexy. Pro is too much like a pc.
) awhile back, was gonna go for Quadro but changed my mind.I wish I get the imac instead, it's so sexy. Pro is too much like a pc.
Woop Shotty
7300 GT was default in the 2007 models. You could upgrade to a 8600 GT, but I wasn't interested. I told myself that all I would ever play was Guild Wars.. like I was going to sacrifice a part of my gaming life. :P
Quaker
My 2 cents:
Now that Macs use x86 processors and can run Windows, there's even less incentive for games companies to write games for OSX. This also makes most of the "Macs don't do games" comments rather pointless since all a Mac owner needs to do is install bootcamp and Windows. (It's cheaper than buying an Xbox. )
In fact, it is the Mac users who are ahead. PC users are essentially stuck using Windows for everything, unless you want to go to Linux or some other OS that has even less available than OSX.
Mac users can play their games under Windows and then switch to a (arguably) better OS for the rest or the apps.
Now that Macs use x86 processors and can run Windows, there's even less incentive for games companies to write games for OSX. This also makes most of the "Macs don't do games" comments rather pointless since all a Mac owner needs to do is install bootcamp and Windows. (It's cheaper than buying an Xbox. )
In fact, it is the Mac users who are ahead. PC users are essentially stuck using Windows for everything, unless you want to go to Linux or some other OS that has even less available than OSX.
Mac users can play their games under Windows and then switch to a (arguably) better OS for the rest or the apps.
Woop Shotty
Well, I don't think any incentive is there to make Mac-only games, but I love cross-compatible games. I used windows for so long, and since last year, I've grown to love working within the mac OS so much more. I know that developers look at what kinds of systems offer the best solutions for THEM, but I think that most people given the opportunity to work with os x will choose it over windows. And the only argument I have is that you should be able to work and play on a single OS that suits you. I love to play wc3 - which as you may know it plays on mac+win. It's installed on my mac side. Why would anyone waste the time going between oses when it isn't necessary.
zamial
I think that it is great that you are able to play GW on your macs. My veiws on macs are:
CONS:
- they are way over priced
- they are deceptive (macs do not get viruses, lol, ya right)
- they use a nonstandard operating system language (more on this in a sec)
- little of the software is compatible cross platforms
- most owners are arrogant (not saying you are)
Pros:
- they are pretty
- they use a 128 bit os (thats cool)
- they pilot new technology (usb motherboard mounted harddrive = airbook which is 8x slower than sata2)
- they beat all others for high end graphic/video editing
A fast history of me:
I learned multiple os languages when I was younger. commodor64, apple, texas instruments, and ibm. I decided to wait untill a standard was made before continuing to learn indepth functions. Windows is ATM the world standard. This is also my issue with linix.
In a windows server enviorment, the mac users are the most problematic to solve. It seems like there is always someone who needs to iceskate uphill. Not to mention isn't using bootcamp on a mac, loading windows still windows? If you need to do that, why not use windows to start with? I am not attempting to poke fun at or upset the mac users with this post, I am however, trying to understand them a little better.
It seems that most schools/universities seem to push apple products on to the uneducated students, which I think is pretty harsh when they realize what they have.
CONS:
- they are way over priced
- they are deceptive (macs do not get viruses, lol, ya right)
- they use a nonstandard operating system language (more on this in a sec)
- little of the software is compatible cross platforms
- most owners are arrogant (not saying you are)
Pros:
- they are pretty
- they use a 128 bit os (thats cool)
- they pilot new technology (usb motherboard mounted harddrive = airbook which is 8x slower than sata2)
- they beat all others for high end graphic/video editing
A fast history of me:
I learned multiple os languages when I was younger. commodor64, apple, texas instruments, and ibm. I decided to wait untill a standard was made before continuing to learn indepth functions. Windows is ATM the world standard. This is also my issue with linix.
In a windows server enviorment, the mac users are the most problematic to solve. It seems like there is always someone who needs to iceskate uphill. Not to mention isn't using bootcamp on a mac, loading windows still windows? If you need to do that, why not use windows to start with? I am not attempting to poke fun at or upset the mac users with this post, I am however, trying to understand them a little better.
It seems that most schools/universities seem to push apple products on to the uneducated students, which I think is pretty harsh when they realize what they have.
Quaker
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Why would anyone waste the time going between OSes when it isn't necessary.
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The realities also are that Macs are relatively expensive compared to PCs of the same performance (hardware) level, and since Macs are proprietary (no Mac clones), they continue to have a relatively small portion of the market. The proportion of Mac users who play games is also relatively small.
So, it comes down to getting Game developers to write games for a small portion of the PC market, which has an even smaller portion of gamers, which has an even smaller portion that can't (won't) run windows. (And, you're talking about a PC game market which has serious competition from the console market already.)
Perhaps, if Apple would/could do a version of OSX to run on "standard" x86 hardware, you'd start to get some market penetration, but I doubt that that will happen unless Apple is near bankruptcy and needs the money badly.