Well here we have it..

SilentWhistle

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Ectos are now 3k900g at the rare mat trader....THREE THOUSAND, NINE HUNDRED GOLD!

Holy smokes!

So, seen as they are going to get lower & lower, what seems to be the replacement for them for trades above 100k?
Z-Keys maybe?

absolutcrobi

absolutcrobi

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/facepalm



I need to stop even looking in this part of the forums.

Maybe just a firefox filter for the ecto shadow form or chaos plains.

jiggles

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that means even MORE grind to get enough for a v-spear

jeeez

Covah

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Quote:
Originally Posted by SilentWhistle
So, seen as they are going to get lower & lower, what seems to be the replacement for them for trades above 100k?
Z-Keys maybe?
Zkeys HAVE been the replacement since ecto when below 5k and before.


/facepalm @ thread

SilentWhistle

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This is not a QQ thread, not a thread about A/E, simply a thread stating that Ecto prices ARE NOT starting to stabilize and ARE going to keep going down.

kvndoom

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A kitten dies every time someone makes an ecto QQ thread.

I don't like cats.

The plan is working better and faster than even I could anticipate.

Horus

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oh, and this was totally unexpected

/end sarcasm

SilentWhistle

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UK

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Well, looking at every post on here concerning the A/E everyone seems to think that Ecto prices will stabilize, obviously not.

EPO Bot

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Mo/N

Gimme! I want that FoW armor after two and a half years of scrubby playing!

kostolomac

kostolomac

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Maybe accept the fact that ANET is finally going with the idea of items traded for only 100k max?

Quote:
Originally Posted by kvndoom
A kitten dies every time someone makes an ecto QQ thread.

I don't like cats.

The plan is working better and faster than even I could anticipate.
LOL

Targren

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Quote:
Originally Posted by SilentWhistle
Well, looking at every post on here concerning the A/E everyone seems to think that Ecto prices will stabilize, obviously not.
Not so "obvious."

Just because they haven't yet doesn't means they won't.

SilentWhistle

SilentWhistle

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They won't....srsly, when they got to 4k500g people were saying 'they'll stay like this now', now we're at 3k900g lol. I feel so bad for these people who farmed for their FoW when it was actually a grind to farm for and showed dedication. No I don't have FoW.

Ambuu

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How about people start selling them for 4k+?
It'll only make them richer, and the economy will start to go "back to normal".

If people had no problem paying 4.5k for ectos before, they wont have a problem with it again. Force people to buy ectos for higher prices now.

It's not the amount of ectos people have, its the people who are starting to sell them lower.

Targren

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Quote:
Originally Posted by SilentWhistle
They won't....srsly, when they got to 4k500g people were saying 'they'll stay like this now', now we're at 3k900g lol. I feel so bad for these people who farmed for their FoW when it was actually a grind to farm for and showed dedication. No I don't have FoW.
You may be working on a strange definition of "stabilized." The reason they are dropping in price is because the old price was above market value using whatever algorithms the trader NPCs use. If the price drops to 1k or even 100g, and stays there, then the price will have "stabilized." It doesn't mean that the price stops and stays HIGH, just that it stops and stays. Rising prices are also "unstable."

There is the possibility, however, that you are right, and it will not stabilize. This will happen if the price of ectos gets so low that they are not worth farming any more. Fewer will get sold to the trader, and the price will rise again. Rinse/Repeat.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Ambuu
How about people start selling them for 4k+?
It'll only make them richer, and the economy will start to go "back to normal".

If people had no problem paying 4.5k for ectos before, they wont have a problem with it again. Force people to buy ectos for higher prices now.

It's not the amount of ectos people have, its the people who are starting to sell them lower.
That requires long-term thinking. GW power-traders are more like modern corporations. Profit in the short-term, leave the long-term consequences for someone else to worry about after I retire.

To sell ectos at 4.5k now when the trader is selling for 3.9k (can't get on now to verify current price, so going with what was stated at the start of the thread) means that they won't sell their ectos this minute. "Screw that, I'll just buy them from the trader." In the long term, as more are bought from the trader than other players, the trader price rises. But that cuts into the right-now-now-now profits, so I don't expect to see it happen.

SilentWhistle

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Well put. Thanks.

Jetdoc

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Quote:
Originally Posted by SilentWhistle
Ectos are now 3k900g at the rare mat trader....THREE THOUSAND, NINE HUNDRED GOLD!
Hey, that's impossible. Rajha the Thief said that there was a 4K floor!

Someone call Gaile STAT!!@#!@!@



P.S. You know that you're never gonna live that down, right Rajha?

{IceFire}

{IceFire}

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And I spent 10k/ecto for my fow.


BAWWWWWWWWWWWW


big RED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GOing deal -.-

Breakfast Mc Rit

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Quote:
Originally Posted by SilentWhistle
This is not a QQ thread, not a thread about A/E, simply a thread stating that Ecto prices ARE NOT starting to stabilize and ARE going to keep going down.
I think that was obvious to people that had a clue. Prices will continue to fall, and good riddance. Until ecto gets out of the hands of the community and becomes scarce again they wont hit a floor price. Perhaps ecto prices are shot for good with the coming release of GW2.

Shakti

Shakti

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Home...

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Yeah, because yet another thread about ectos/economy was totally needed.

/endsarcasm

Shall we just make one every time the price changes more than, say, 300g each and be done with it?

Sorry SilentWhistle, this could've gone in any of those threads, or the newest about the economy and been right at home, so didn't need a whole thread.

vote for close, it's cluttered enough by threads on these very closely related topics.

Tyla

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Join Date: Sep 2006

Quote:
Originally Posted by Jetdoc
Hey, that's impossible. Rajha the Thief said that there was a 4K floor!

Someone cally Regina STAT!!@#!@!@



P.S. You know that you're never gonna live that down, right Rajha?
Fixed for accuracy.

As for this thread: PLEASE STOP MAKING NEW THREADS. We have enough threads as it is to post in about the entire Ecto price downfall, the Obs Shard up...fall and imbalance in general.

Miska Bow

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Orange Milk

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Quote:
Originally Posted by kvndoom
A kitten dies every time someone makes an ecto QQ thread.

I don't like cats.

The plan is working better and faster than even I could anticipate.
BWAAHHHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

thread winner, WHOO HOO

Mr Face

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Join Date: Jul 2006

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If you have alot of money stored in ectos, convert them all to Armbraces/ Z-Keys and forget about it. Ecto prices only affect one thing; the price of ectos, its that simple really.

Neo Nugget

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Awwwww man! I wanted to have a screenie for my signature

*psst* anyone have a screen of them at 3.9k?:P

Jade

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Canada...... Eh!

<--- That's the waaaaaaambulance. I called it, it'll be here right away.



Animated gifs diabled? ^^ ?

Gregslot

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Its Over Three Thousaaannnnnnndddd!!!

GoodApollo1234

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Maybe Anet wants things like FoW armor to be affordable for more of the casual players so they'll be able to share that sense of accomplishment with the players who've spent years grinding. That IS sort of what they stood for in the first place.

Just a thought.

By the way, I never really understood why people used an item for 100k+ trades that could fluctuate at all. Why not do it with something that will ALWAYS cost the same.... like lockpicks or something? They always sell, and their price always stays the same at the merchant. Z-keys are a step closer to this, but their price isn't set in stone either. Sooner or later, their prices will drop too.

Now that I think of it, why is there a 100k trade limit anyway? Did Anet ever give us a good reason for that?

Valkyria

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Join Date: Apr 2008

I need to stop even bother to read threads started by SilentWhistle.Saw atleast 2-3 about A/E and other QQ UW crap started by you in past 4 days.
Stop it.

Turbobusa

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They made rare items more common, the price went lower, now that ectos are cheaper, doesn't that make those rare items more expensive? Or are people dumb and sell for the same price?

lorph

Academy Page

Join Date: Oct 2005

I predicted this over a week ago only to have people say that there is a 4k pricefloor. hmm

R.Shayne

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Oct 2007

Quote:
Originally Posted by GoodApollo1234
Now that I think of it, why is there a 100k trade limit anyway? Did Anet ever give us a good reason for that?
Something along the lines of they never wanted stuff to be out reach for the casual player. It is in some interview somewhere about the release of Sorraw's Furnance and the introduction of greens.

Before Sorraw's Furnance a Req. 9 15^50 gold longsword could go above 100k. Back then we had a 55 friendly UW.

BlackSephir

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Jesus Christ, it completely ruins my game!!!!!!!!!11111111

Oh wait, no it doesn't.

Lawrence Chang

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Quote:
Originally Posted by GoodApollo1234
Maybe Anet wants things like FoW armor to be affordable for more of the casual players so they'll be able to share that sense of accomplishment with the players who've spent years grinding. That IS sort of what they stood for in the first place.

Just a thought.

By the way, I never really understood why people used an item for 100k+ trades that could fluctuate at all. Why not do it with something that will ALWAYS cost the same.... like lockpicks or something? They always sell, and their price always stays the same at the merchant. Z-keys are a step closer to this, but their price isn't set in stone either. Sooner or later, their prices will drop too.

Now that I think of it, why is there a 100k trade limit anyway? Did Anet ever give us a good reason for that?
I never understood that either. But Lockpicks are relatively new, in a way. Back when HM did not exist, ectos were used. I guess people are too lazy to change.

AscalonWarrior

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also +1

Stockholm

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Quote:
Originally Posted by SilentWhistle
Well, looking at every post on here concerning the A/E everyone seems to think that Ecto prices will stabilize, obviously not.
Ecto prices would stabilise if Tom, Dick and Henrietta stopped panicking and not dump the Ectos stacks on the Rare Mat Trader. Once the overflow is bought up ectos will return to around 4.5K.

Nightow

Nightow

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Stockholm
Ecto prices would stabilise if Tom, Dick and Henrietta stopped panicking and not dump the Ectos stacks on the Rare Mat Trader. Once the overflow is bought up ectos will return to around 4.5K.
Yeah but to Tom, Dick and Henrietta, selling it to the trader might be a lot more appealing that having to stand around in spamadan, trying to figure out the magic number that'll make people buy their ectos.

DarkFlame

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You know, I don't quite recall this much whining when ectos dropped from 16k to 5k.

mathiastemplar

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Who cares about ecto prices?? when i bought my first Obsi armor, ectos were 15kea.... now i bought my 5th at 4kea...
Just play the game, it's not about money...

What's the big deal? - maybe Anet's just punishing those ppl with xxx stacks for buying gold on the internet xD

Is it just me, or have the Guru forums transformed to Flame/Troll-guru?

^^

Sleeper Service

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Quote:
Originally Posted by mathiastemplar
Who cares about ecto prices?? when i bought my first Obsi armor, ectos were 15kea.... now i bought my 5th at 4kea...
Just play the game, it's not about money...

What's the big deal? - maybe Anet's just punishing those ppl with xxx stacks for buying gold on the internet xD

Is it just me, or have the Guru forums transformed to Flame/Troll-guru?

^^
I blame fast cheap net connections for the overall degradation of the internet.

I think ill go make a thread about it.

"Fazt inetrwebz conextionZ RUINS TEH WEBTUBE!"

Arkantos

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I like threads that offer little to no constructive discussion, with +1s and pics.

Oh wait, no I don't. Closed.