Quad Terra Perma Speed Clear

Grieve Logdan

Academy Page

Join Date: Jun 2007

The Wayward Souls [LOST]

Quad Perma Terra Speed Clear
(Non-ursan, Non-monk)

Ok, so here it goes. Recently some people have been hearing rumors of a team build for Underworld that can clear it in under 20 minutes. Well it is true I've been on atleast 5 successful runs using the team build. Our times have ranged from 15 to 25 minutes with the ability to improve to 12 minutes. Also, this team build is not for the faint of heart. Many things can go wrong and ruin the run so I suggest only those with a lot of UW experience attempt this team build.

Ok so here are the builds and the areas and quests they cover.

Perma Terras
~We would also like to give credit for the original E/A builds to Piro Kickazz who introduced the idea to the community where it spread and took root.


[Ice Wastes Perma Terra;OgdTkY28ZiHRnB3BZwYIXkHCHEA]
The Ice Wastes perma terra clears wastes and takes quest for Chamber Sin then heads to Chaos Plains


[Bone Pits Perma Terra;OgdTkY285hHpzQG8wsxSMVg7AA]
The Bone Pits perma terra clears and does the Imprisoned Spirits quest and the heads to Chaos Plains


[Spawning Pools Perma Terra;OgdTkY285hHpzwdpZkBPMbkKAA]
The Spawning Pools perma terra goes clears and does Terrorweb Queen quest and the heads to Chaos Plains.

These first 3 Perma terras should not need any extended explanation on how to do their job seeing as numerous people have posted or discussed in game on how to clear for the quest and and finish it at a good pace. Now normally the Pools & Wastes perma terras normally finish up first and the go to plains to clear for Four Horsemen without backups unless the Pits perma terra is done in time to take the Pits side.


[Twin Serpent Mountains Perma Terra;OgdTkY28ZiHRnB3JNDZIXkHCHEA]
The Twin Serpent Mountains perma terra books it up the mountain and kills the Obsidian Behemoths very carefully and well pops the reaper and solos the Slayer quest.


Chamber Sin

[Chamber Perma Sin;OwVTMY/8ZyEgHRnR0ZJwGszztEA]
The Chamber Sin's role has not changed much. He clears the start and reaper chamber. Then when cleared does Unwanted guests then runs to Wastes to do Ice King quest.


Vale Sin

[Vale Perma Sin;OwRlccdr38pj3wj0ZCwh/BDS4ywd]

Support Necros
~Idea for the necros came from Tis Divine and was later modified as seen.

[Vale FoC Necro;OAVCY8x0lAbAkwNonXV1SAGH]

[Vale SS Necro;OAVDQmtHTLB5BwlrlQCYcuQwBA]

The 3-man Forgotten Vale team clears for and does Wrathful Spirits quest and then runs back to do Escort of Souls.

Specific strategies in these areas are constantly changing, but for now this should help you get an idea on what is going on. You can possibly expect a full blown guide posted by myself, Tears of Domination, or Slient S H A D O W eventually.

I would like to give credit for these builds.
*Necro builds by Tears of Domination, Ix The Resurrection, Star Necro Midder[DVDF], Damaged Spirit, Steel Blackheart, & Darkstone Construct.
*Perma Terra builds modified by Sk Shock, Tears of Domination, Ix The Resurrection, Arcane Amaranth, & Slient S H A D O W.
*Perma Sin modified by Slient Shadow & Rifte Torin

Also, credit is deserved for those who tested these builds and ran with us. Danny Assassin, Cruel Intentionsz, & P A L A T O.

The Guilds involved in this are Spice Girls Reunion Tour[NOOO], Pink Flying Flaming Donkeys of [BoBo], Zealots of Shiverpeaks [ZoS], Brotherhood of Veterans [BRO], & The Wayward Souls [LOST].

Hopefully this helps those of you looking to challenge your own speed records. Best of Luck.

- Rifte Torin

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Sinister Syndicate

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: May 2008

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Sabway: Not sure who you are but ...[UuwC] Did not do a 17min clear that was our alliance [NOOO] and also the broke that with a 15min clear!
[UuwC] Has not broke 20min so sad I know. I am the UuwC leader and for the record it was [NOOO] who did that, we do not take credit for their work.
Thanks for the Edit Sabway.



SABWAY.......I CAN'T PM YOU BACK! X(

shadez

shadez

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: May 2007

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Nice job Tears "baby" & crew .../cheer Great guide ~ awsome to see everyone involved gettting credit deserved.

romeus petrus

romeus petrus

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Urgoz Warren

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Thank you for sharing, very impressive indeed.

Is there any way you can post a vid of the Vale clearing?

Team Spirit

Academy Page

Join Date: May 2008

Truly impressive (non ursan-non monk), thank you for sharing.

Rhamia Darigaz

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Apr 2008

Quote:
Originally Posted by Sinister Syndicate
Sabway: Not sure who you are but ...[UuwC] Did not do a 17min clear that was our alliance [NOOO] and also the broke that with a 15min clear!
[UuwC] Has not broke 20min so sad I know. I am the UuwC leader and for the record it was [NOOO] who did that, we do not take credit for their work. You will be Kicked from the guild for that Post! impressive.
how many points did that add to your guild rating?
im guessing >9000

Chthon

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Apr 2007

Questions:

1. A celerity is necessary, no?

2. How does the icy wastes sin avoid being torn to shreds by ZF + RoF?

3. How does the mountain sin deal with charged blacknesses?

4. When faced with a bad spawn of behemoths, how does the mountain sin get past? Stop and kill them? Deaths charge and pray?

5. How does the mountain sin kill off the last behemoth or two? (Or the last dryder?)

Rhamia Darigaz

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Apr 2008

Quote:
Originally Posted by Chthon
Questions:

1. A celerity is necessary, no?

2. How does the icy wastes sin avoid being torn to shreds by ZF + RoF?

3. How does the mountain sin deal with charged blacknesses?

4. When faced with a bad spawn of behemoths, how does the mountain sin get past? Stop and kill them? Deaths charge and pray?

5. How does the mountain sin kill off the last behemoth or two? (Or the last dryder?) 1. B
2. R
3. A
4. V
5. E
be brave

Th Fooster

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Apr 2008

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umm that necro bar i gave tears that idea waay back when i was with tis and them. with foc and ss. s0 yeah. anyhow i ot all that credit before because all you guys wanted to keep the build we had at the time a big "secret" and i published it and YES i DiD write the whole terra tank line and work with bleys on the splits back then. i never once took credit away from anyone. in fact,
i remember when every one of those team members were trained by me!
soo as for accusing me of stealing your builds.. no. lies.

you stole mine with those necros and i evenimpleid them in the hints i gave about the ursanless version of my build. and i was dropping hints on it waay before yuo guys posted this.


s0 if anyone has grounds to squaabble over who stole builds, you stole mine and used my scraps bu thats ok cos really its nice to see that yuo scrubs finaly shared your little "secret"
with the rest.

and dont forget who it was that inspired the renewed interest in UW again. so enjoy your day in the sun ill be in game more when i get my internet issues sorted out. then ill break 15 minutes.

therangereminem

therangereminem

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jan 2007

R/Mo

ok so i make alot fo build for alot i reinvented doa before gwen came out to get full clears in under 4 hours, i re did foosters build added things i have came up with, should the world how to tank the right way,

and now fooster wants to say he tought me everythign i know allthe build we use, everything we put in a build in last 2 weeks,

this build isnt the one we use now thi one is a week old not the build we got 15 min with and now going for under 12 min with edits to the run

fooster grow up you helped with some thing in the old tri terra and thats it , im sick of theft and others are too,

yes i know other pople might be using this but none i have seen, so im not taking 100% credit for anything nor is anyone else in this team, all we doing is putting it together so that the guildwars world can be enlighted and do things better and faster

look for the full team build from me by monday with 1005 what we use anll the tips and the tricks tons of screens and videos, i willput a ultimte guild to uw,

ps next area we will be going over and reinventing is fow, then i lll be working with our team to re think about doa now that gwen has opened more up for everyone with bigger and better things

so stick around thing willbe getting good,

the team build to look for on monday will be

SHADOWWAY SPEED CLEAR

Eric Clapton

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Quote:
Originally Posted by therangereminem
ok so i make alot fo build for alot i reinvented doa before gwen came out to get full clears in under 4 hours, i re did foosters build added things i have came up with, should the world how to tank the right way,

and now fooster wants to say he tought me everythign i know allthe build we use, everything we put in a build in last 2 weeks,

this build isnt the one we use now thi one is a week old not the build we got 15 min with and now going for under 12 min with edits to the run

fooster grow up you helped with some thing in the old tri terra and thats it , im sick of theft and others are too,

yes i know other pople might be using this but none i have seen, so im not taking 100% credit for anything nor is anyone else in this team, all we doing is putting it together so that the guildwars world can be enlighted and do things better and faster

look for the full team build from me by monday with 1005 what we use anll the tips and the tricks tons of screens and videos, i willput a ultimte guild to uw,

ps next area we will be going over and reinventing is fow, then i lll be working with our team to re think about doa now that gwen has opened more up for everyone with bigger and better things

so stick around thing willbe getting good,

the team build to look for on monday will be

SHADOWWAY SPEED CLEAR
Hope you improve your grammar by Monday.

dennisbb

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Th Fooster
umm that necro bar i gave tears that idea waay back when i was with tis and them. with foc and ss. s0 yeah. anyhow i ot all that credit before because all you guys wanted to keep the build we had at the time a big "secret" and i published it and YES i DiD write the whole terra tank line and work with bleys on the splits back then. i never once took credit away from anyone. in fact,
i remember when every one of those team members were trained by me!
soo as for accusing me of stealing your builds.. no. lies.

you stole mine with those necros and i evenimpleid them in the hints i gave about the ursanless version of my build. and i was dropping hints on it waay before yuo guys posted this.


s0 if anyone has grounds to squaabble over who stole builds, you stole mine and used my scraps bu thats ok cos really its nice to see that yuo scrubs finaly shared your little "secret"
with the rest.

and dont forget who it was that inspired the renewed interest in UW again. so enjoy your day in the sun ill be in game more when i get my internet issues sorted out. then ill break 15 minutes. #1, the necros was something me and some friends worked out.. tis contributed.. you havent EVER mentioned necros EVER!!! so stop tryin to steal credit you bloodsucking leeche!
#2, SHall we ask Tis Divine How much you would have ben worth.. without those E/Me bars HE gave you ?!?!.................... Tyvm.. now go make YOUR build.. and run YOUR build.. and stop stealing other peoples work...... your an insult to the gaming community,

thebullion24k

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Join Date: Jan 2007

Chicago

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Eric Clapton
Hope you improve your grammar by Monday. Yeah that post forced me to take a Tylenol ~_~

Starmidder

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: May 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by Th Fooster
umm that necro bar i gave tears that idea waay back when i was with tis and them. with foc and ss. s0 yeah. anyhow i ot all that credit before because all you guys wanted to keep the build we had at the time a big "secret" and i published it Wow, you really must get off by taking credit for things you had no part in. As one of the two necros involved in this, I can say with 100% confidence that you had no part in our coming up with the idea, since at the time of the first run I had never heard of you. Dennis wanted us to run dual SS with MoP, and after a few slow runs, Darkstone and I agreed that it would be faster with SS and FoC. He came up with the SS bar (which btw, does not have Air of Superiority in it), while I came up with the FoC bar. Kthx.

Oh, and where's my 10k?

IGN: Star Necro Midder

SimonSez

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Join Date: Jan 2007

Sweden

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I like the terras that "therangereminem" wrote in his guide better. I have been learning how to manage the energy for a while now and it is very very easy to clear 1 area and doing quest in like 15-17 mins. I would like to try this out with other exp people so can anybody call me in-game?

IGN: Fire Phantasm

therangereminem

therangereminem

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jan 2007

R/Mo

the ele s i use in the build i wrote are the ones we use in the 15 min cclear for the most part , i know we are goign to be bringing those from my build ,

btw clears time should be like

smits frm start of zone into uw <10 min to be a ok time <8 min is very good =6 min is what you aim at form 15 min cleaers

been working on the guide all nihgt for the most part so be getting screens from the other guys today

ix James Wai the bladed

ix James Wai the bladed

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jun 2008

Stealing [agro]

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Nice Guide Torin , i must say that i agree with star, Fooster Stop taking Credit for everything, you did NOTHING to help with this Team Build , the people that came with it are the people mentioned above. So please, Grow up and stop saying things that everyone knows isn't true.

As for us that did the 15 min run, was a pleasure running with you guys , hope we get that 12 min run we been after.

P.S : I am going to be writing a guide on how to do pools in 3-6 mins. So be on the look out .
Oh and fooster, i want my 10k, kthnx.
You know my Ign.

Christmas Card

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Feb 2008

The Phoenix Heart [TPH]

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I suppose it just depends on your preference. Everyone uses different builds that works just fine .

Th Fooster

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Apr 2008

Twice Dawns The Day[WoT]

Mo/

Quote:
Originally Posted by dennisbb
#1, the necros was something me and some friends worked out.. tis contributed.. you havent EVER mentioned necros EVER!!! so stop tryin to steal credit you bloodsucking leeche!
#2, SHall we ask Tis Divine How much you would have ben worth.. without those E/Me bars HE gave you ?!?!.................... Tyvm.. now go make YOUR build.. and run YOUR build.. and stop stealing other peoples work...... your an insult to the gaming community, actualy i did

remember sharna?

bleys?

and i should post tha b"bar " tis gave me.. it had.. aura of restoration and armour of earth and shit like that in it.

and go look at bleys guide.. ts called.. foosters terra tank.. cos I made that bar... not tis. tis is a monk. that whole team knew that i was the one that made thier bars, and bleys named it mine.
i did not name it mine myself. it was credited to me from bleys. and back them it was bleys and me that decided the splits. tis was an old fart that hated change.

i showed them necro bars. 1 ss with mimicry the other with foc and mimicry

and im not taking credit for it im just pointing out that you guys and your in game falming and ttrying to take me down a notch and your no better than me just because you broke a record with out me i had thatnecro idea a looong time ago way back when we were all accused of phtoshop and i started making an ursanless version even back then in response to the ursan bashers.

and as i point out in my guides that jsut because i made those terra tank bars, does not mean i invented the terra tank. it means i invented that bar.

we were using perma SF sins waay before the boost to sf. none of that was my idea but gesky brought it to me and i gave him full credit in my guide.when did you start using perna sf sin?

not untill it was buffed up to noob friendlyness. cos you FAILED at it before!

now did geysky invent the sf sin? no. he jsut invented that particular bar and use for it. same thin. i did not invent an FoC necro i used that to win halls in my rank 3 days.
i jsut took the bar and modified it and ran it with sharna once and talked with belys about it, and a few that are on my regular team we were discussing it before you posted this build.

and i have been ging on for weeks before you posted on hints at the ursanless version of the build that i made. and you just happen to have similar bars. not exactly the same but same idea.

so what i am sayin is that you havve not come up with anything new here these are old ideas of mine before most of you whippersnappers even knew how to speed clear uw!

and ill point out that it was all of you guys that were opposed to me publishing speed clear guides. you were all bein cheap scrubs about it and wanted to keep it to yourself
I GAVE TO THE COMINITY you guys would never have posted your sily guide if you werent scared that i would take credit. so all my goading and arrogance has paid off.

and you clowns fell for it! and made the guide for all to use.

danny21

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Join Date: Feb 2008

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omg fooster stop talking things which aint true... we beat you and u just dunno what to do... now we shared the build so....

BTW Grieve my name is Danny Assasin, not Danny Assassin hahaha, but its ok np

Fooster, I want my 10k.....
wanna see them asap!

D??esseBrighid

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Quote:
Originally Posted by therangereminem
funny this isnt even the real build we used you feel for it fooster somethign are knda what we used but mostly not If you're going to use my account to post, at least post ledgibly...

Funny this isn't even the real build we used, you fell for it Fooster. Some things are kinda what we used but mostly not.

D??esseBrighid

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PS Fooster: I think it's funny that you have to try so hard to take credit for things that aren't yours to take credit for. You sit here and say the only reason they posted it was because they wanted the credit, well duh. It's their build. Isn't that the same reason you posted your guide? At least the person posting this guide gave credit where credit was due.

ix James Wai the bladed

ix James Wai the bladed

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jun 2008

Stealing [agro]

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Quote:
Originally Posted by DéesseBrighid
PS Fooster: I think it's funny that you have to try so hard to take credit for things that aren't yours to take credit for. You sit here and say the only reason they posted it was because they wanted the credit, well duh. It's their build. Isn't that the same reason you posted your guide? At least the person posting this guide gave credit where credit was due. Oh my god, Well Said. Fooster take a hint and just give up please, not your builds.

darkstone construct

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Apr 2007

If you guys saw the bars we started with on the necro's, I don't think anyone would be so eager to take credit. As for what we ended up with... they're basic ss and foc builds, modified (slightly) to fit the job. The builds have been around for ages.

Loot Junkie

Loot Junkie

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Join Date: Jan 2007

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clan dethryche[dth]

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Well after reading this thread it's time to clear the air as to who came up with these necro builds. A few weeks ago dennis/Tears asked me to hop on vent because he was seeking to improve the time on uw speed clears and he was wondering if I could provide any input, seeing as he knew that I had played an awful lot of necro. It was at that point that I told him that Mark of Pain had the highest DPS in the game, when used under the right circumstances - a tightly packed mob and physical damage hitting the MoP'd foe. So I made that suggestion and some time later dennis and the guys had a couple necro bars worked out and took me along for a test run. Both bars had SS, MoP, ebon vanguard assassin and whatever else. The idea was gather agro, hex with SS, MoP a target and throw the ebon sin at him since it inflicts physical damage and would trigger MoP for some huge damage. So we went in as a partial team to see how long it would take to do the vale section of the run. We finished in an easy 17 minutes and what was the reaction? Everybody was excited and celebrating that the 20 minute mark could now easily be surpassed. I thought dennis was gonna have a baby he was so excited. If these builds had already existed then this event would not have been anything groundbreaking and there would have been no cause for celebration.

Not long after this the guys posted an official time of 17 minutes only to be accused of getting "lucky spawns". Apparently the self-proclaimed creator of these necro bars had no clue how this run was done so fast. If he really had created these bars would he not have known? It's an interesting question. More recently I was asked to come along again, this time we ran the necro bars posted in the OP, since they worked better overall than the MoP bars.

As far as giving credit goes, I would say these guys are pretty generous. All I did was make one measly suggestion about MoP and go on a few runs and the guys were nice enough to throw a nod my way, thanks guys. People who steal credit for themselves dont do this.

darkstone construct

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Apr 2007

As mentioned earlier, the MoP based bars were not particularly well thought out. They had 2 major issues: (a) they included a self healing component centered around feast of corruption and assn shadow step skills which was completely unneccessary and (b) since MoP causes enemies to scatter considerably more than SS, FoC and the like, it consistently caused issues with body blocks and open-air tanking (especially when combined with spears, which forced the necros deeper into agro than otherwise necessary). The upgraded bars improved the effectiveness of the build, especially in vale.

The 17 minute run was completed despite the MoP bars... agro control issues popped up on several occasions. We made roughly 4 attempts while working on the bars but did not re-roll spawns or anything of the sort. With a perfect spawn it should be possible to clock in at about 12 minutes or so using this team build. Long live the necro!

This pissing contest is getting a little old (not to mention childish). Please give credit where credit is due... or better yet, post a more effective build.

Th Fooster

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Apr 2008

Twice Dawns The Day[WoT]

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well we dont need to ost a more effective build. we have a 13 minute timer posted ( well the team i play with ) i was only there for the 14 minute.

as for the pissing contest i didnt know there really was one untill all of a sudden you guys posted this time and startd flaming me and crap accusing me of stealing builds and all that and taking credit..

read my guides... in them i gave full credit where it was due

as for the rest credit was givin my by the general comunity because i published guides.. i also taught entire guilds and aliances how to speed clear.
i was never a glory hog like you accuse me of.

dennis just had a problem with me and infected you guys with it.
and its true the foc necro and the ss i was talkin about it waay back.. and hinted it in my posts as early as the 42 minute run.

im not trying to steal credit. its fact.. i was on to the necro idea loong ago.
anyhow if you want to continue ths flame fest.. go for it. amuse me.

i have a life outside guild wars so this is water off a ducks back when i turn the comp off. OR you can make peace and all row up and smarten up.

you too dennis... grow up man and lay off the slander.posting a time that was faster didnt in no way increase you as a human being and you have taken nothing from me at all.
my team held that record for 4 months straight! you had it for... 5 days. but hey.. grats.. you guys are the first one to beat me even if it was short lived its still an acomplishment worth respect.

now we have a 13 minute timer posted.. so that makes it your move dennis ( if you still wanna carry this whole fiasco on) now you can ither jsut make peace and join us OR you can keep your seperat fences and shit and stay the #2 team with the 3rd fastest time (ours is a 14 and a 13 minute clear.) and i know ... you will point out hatt i wasnt there.. fine.. if you like i ca post screens when i was there (thats if you wanna make this personal)

so its your move denny-poo.... grow up and make peace or keep on crying about whatever pissed you off and use it to try to beat the fastest time.

and make it a race to 10 minutes, or make peace and be one big happy family.but as it is now as seperate teams, your #2.

and in a race.. second place is only the first loser.

therangereminem

therangereminem

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wow fooster gg not we will beat it we are number 1 and will be back on top when all our team is together again we have lives i have been busy working and so has the resty of the team ,

Mourne

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This thread is full of fail. Everyone needs to grow up imo O.o

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Mourne
This thread is full of fail. Everyone needs to grow up imo O.o quoted for truth

RYCHER969

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disregard post..didnt realize date, sorry

sororitygirl

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Mourne View Post
This thread is full of fail. Everyone needs to grow up imo O.o quoted for truth AGAIN.

faraaz

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I lol'd when I read this thread...

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A quick question, why are the builds called "perma..", as from what I can see, SF isn't permanant. Or is something else perma?