What's the rage with this perma sin build?

Az Lam

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Apr 2008

StrG

W/Mo

28 Jun 2008 at 10:29 - 1
All i keep hearing is this is the new 55hp monk build.

When i've asked people to show me the build everyone seems to have modded it or tweaked a skill or two. I've checked pvxwiki and they have it as;

Glyph of Swiftnesst
Deadly Paradox
Shadow Form
Sliver Armor
Intensity
Ebon Battle Standard of Honor
Air of Superiority
Death's Charge

Is this the right build or do i need to change a skill or two.

Secondly can this build solo any dungeons?

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Before anyone kicks off, yes i did use search but every reply had a sarcastic reply lol, so hopefully someone can point me in the right direction

Thanks in advance

Miska Bow

Miska Bow

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jan 2008

somewhere, Grinding some l33t titles

Order of the Divine WoodChuck

R/

28 Jun 2008 at 10:35 - 2
Its mostly use to solo farm ectos in the Underworld. This build has been made godlike by a recent buff to Shadow form.

You can read all the rant posts about the price of ectos and the need to nerf/not nerf SF in about every 5 new tread on Guru

The build is great for farming ectos and the posts about it are great for trolling and farming your forum reputation.

Az Lam

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Apr 2008

StrG

W/Mo

28 Jun 2008 at 10:43 - 3
So this can'tbe used to solo dungeons e.g CoF or even normal areas, i hate farming with others in my group

On Volt

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jan 2008

Ethereal Light of Dwayna

A/

28 Jun 2008 at 11:17 - 4
I think it CAN be used to do CoF, but 600/smiting is more effective for CoF, though.

Abedeus

Abedeus

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Jan 2007

Niflheim

R/

28 Jun 2008 at 11:26 - 5
Can't solo CoF, there are touch skills there (Headbutt) and smite signets.

Az Lam

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Apr 2008

StrG

W/Mo

28 Jun 2008 at 12:43 - 6
CoF was an e.g

What dungeons/area can it solo?

H2SO4

H2SO4

Academy Page

Join Date: Dec 2005

Ireland

A/

28 Jun 2008 at 13:34 - 7
I dont understand the aggro.. originally everyone HATED and I mean HATED Assassins. Assassins couldn't get into PuGs, no one took them seriously.

Now lots of people are farming with them.

In relation to the whole farming issue :

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How is Guild Wars 2 different from other MMOs?
While Guild Wars 2 adds a persistent world, it retains the unique nature of the original game including a strong narrative, extensive instanced gameplay, an anti-grind design philosophy, and strong support for competitive play.
anti grind should hopefully = no farming

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Before anyone kicks off, yes i did use search but every reply had a sarcastic reply lol, so hopefully someone can point me in the right direction

Thanks in advance everyone here is an expert and yes you have to ask a question about 3 times to get an answer or else hope that a sensible person is the first to reply.

Tyla

Emo Goth Italics

Join Date: Sep 2006

28 Jun 2008 at 13:41 - 8
It is for the most part immunity to everything. There are workarounds e.g bonder.

Basically, 3 skill slots ([deadly paradox][glyph of swiftness][shadow form]) and you've still got roughly 5 skill slots and 100 attribute points.

Tom Swift

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Aug 2007

28 Jun 2008 at 14:06 - 9
Quote:
Originally Posted by Az Lam
All i keep hearing is this is the new 55hp monk build.

When i've asked people to show me the build everyone seems to have modded it or tweaked a skill or two. I've checked pvxwiki and they have it as;

Glyph of Swiftnesst
Deadly Paradox
Shadow Form
Sliver Armor
Intensity
Ebon Battle Standard of Honor
Air of Superiority
Death's Charge

Is this the right build or do i need to change a skill or two.
That build does work - people also use the fire ele build: OwZToY/85R6zj0Z4CkhvYYUWBA

I prefer the earth one as I seem to get more loot from it but it is slower


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Originally Posted by Az Lam
Secondly can this build solo any dungeons? I don't think you can really solo any dungeons as there are touch skills, AoE and counters in most of them and the build doesn't have any real self healing. You could use a bond hero and duo some of the dungeons I suspect. (It's not nearly as much of a god-mode as many think as it does not protect against traps, shouts, signets, dmg spells that target anything other than the sin such as retribution or deadly riposte, Area of effect Damage, degeneration touch skills or certain monster skills.)

There are other areas you can farm with it - though they are not nearly as profitable so you wont usually find a list. Check the various PvxWiki perma builds - the discussion pages usually mention other areas to farm.

Super Igor

Banned

Join Date: Mar 2008

why should you kno? Oo

A/W

28 Jun 2008 at 21:14 - 10
Well yeah that build is pretty powerfull and if you want can solo cof, though it would be rather long and complictaed to do.

fireflyry

fireflyry

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jan 2007

New Zealand

A/D

29 Jun 2008 at 03:02 - 11
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Originally Posted by H2SO4
I dont understand the aggro.. originally everyone HATED and I mean HATED Assassins. Assassins couldn't get into PuGs, no one took them seriously. IMO thats the main source of the issue.

Sins have been the class the majority loved to hate for so long the irony of the class suddenly being buffed into one of the best farm classes in the game must be a bit of a slap in the face to the nay-sayers who have done nothing but rag on Sins since release.

I could see it being a bitter pill for many to swallow especially if, as a result, they have started a new Sin purely for farming as their main class preferences simply can't compete profit/ease of use wise.

On the flipside I think any class would have copped flack if they had been suddenly buffed into a "no-brainer" farm class, maybe just not as much.

Ryu_ookami

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Nov 2007

Frogs From Hell

W/N

29 Jun 2008 at 16:46 - 12
I hope the perma sin stays as the new 55 I was getting bored running around as a monk my assassin looks so much cooler than my monk

faraaz

Banned

Join Date: Feb 2008

India

Hey Mallyx [icU]

A/

01 Jul 2008 at 06:27 - 13
Just to add some perspective, my Assassin was the first character I ever made when I started playing GW (which was around 6 months ago). I've clocked 765 hours on my Assassin, completed all campaigns, some title maxing (protector titles, maxed norn, delver, asura and so on and so forth). The point is that I've been a dedicated Sin player LOOOOONG before Anet buffed Shadow Form. And from this perspective, I would just like to say that I hope Anet nerfs Shadow Form back to what it used to be as soon as possible.

My reasons are the following:

1) Ecto price drop is doing crazy things to item prices, with a lot of unreliability when it comes to the high end market (Armbrace prices jumping and noobs refusing to sell & trying to get a lot more ectos than they are worth if you were to do a simple recalculation based on the old price of ectos etc)

2) Annoying idiots bringing Shadow Form in Gates of Madness then trying to "solo tank" the Lich & Shiro...bringing their wrath on the party when the ranger's trying to pull 1.

3) Shadow Form "runners" who don't have a single improved movement speed skill on their bar (not even dash T_T ) and charge sky high prices for the runs.

Now...this may very well seem like just another Q.Q thread, I admit...but the point I'm driving to put across is this.

"I love Assassins and I hate how they are being raped and mishandled by uninformed noobs who have no idea how to use them."

Spiritz

Forge Runner

Join Date: Apr 2007

DMFC

01 Jul 2008 at 13:05 - 14
I made a sin about 3 months back mainly for spots of farming ( punchout etc ) and to learn a profession i never managed to get used to ( skill chaining im weak on lol ).
As with any prof buffs that give an advantage you'll get ppl jumping in to make an easy buck - ursans/55's and so on.
Yes ppl hate ursans due to no skill required to use ( read the threads lol ) but the sin hatred has been around longer and specially in ab but as its already showing too many ppl ecto farming and selling to merchants is killing ecto prices.
And you get ppl rushing out and unable to buy the runes ( and complain ) or get bad bohemoth spawns ( and complain ).
Anet may put in some new anti sin traps and then we'll see uw sins crying thatuw been nerfed lol.
My sin dont do uw but farms thruout gw but we are also mainly solo farmers and who really wants to spend most of their time solo in gw - isnt gw aimed at party
I also team farm as sin but as a normal sin - more enjoyable.
And yes perma sf runners are usefull but ive only ran myself and a few guild members to droks etc and trying to be a pro runner has no interest for me , id rather farm and have fun than doing droks run several times a nite.

Dobermann

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jul 2006

20 Oct 2009 at 07:03 - 15
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Originally Posted by faraaz View Post
Just to add some perspective, my Assassin was the first character I ever made when I started playing GW (which was around 6 months ago). I've clocked 765 hours on my Assassin, completed all campaigns, some title maxing (protector titles, maxed norn, delver, asura and so on and so forth). The point is that I've been a dedicated Sin player LOOOOONG before Anet buffed Shadow Form. And from this perspective, I would just like to say that I hope Anet nerfs Shadow Form back to what it used to be as soon as possible.

My reasons are the following:

1) Ecto price drop is doing crazy things to item prices, with a lot of unreliability when it comes to the high end market (Armbrace prices jumping and noobs refusing to sell & trying to get a lot more ectos than they are worth if you were to do a simple recalculation based on the old price of ectos etc)

2) Annoying idiots bringing Shadow Form in Gates of Madness then trying to "solo tank" the Lich & Shiro...bringing their wrath on the party when the ranger's trying to pull 1.

3) Shadow Form "runners" who don't have a single improved movement speed skill on their bar (not even dash T_T ) and charge sky high prices for the runs.

Now...this may very well seem like just another Q.Q thread, I admit...but the point I'm driving to put across is this.

"I love Assassins and I hate how they are being raped and mishandled by uninformed noobs who have no idea how to use them." Yes im a perma loving fag.

COUNTERS:

1) Ectos are rising atm (6k-6.5 at traders)
2)+3), you cant blame a skill for a players noobishness, dont like it? get a mate or guildie and sabway it.

Also when i run glyph > paradox > sf > that stance increasing skill > dash > dark escape > IAUnstoppable >deaths charge

RadaArashi

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jun 2007

A/

21 Oct 2009 at 17:22 - 16
Quote:
Originally Posted by Dobermann View Post
Yes im a perma loving fag.

COUNTERS:

1) Ectos are rising atm (6k-6.5 at traders)
2)+3), you cant blame a skill for a players noobishness, dont like it? get a mate or guildie and sabway it.

Also when i run glyph > paradox > sf > that stance increasing skill > dash > dark escape > IAUnstoppable >deaths charge COUNTER:

1) you're replying to a post from June of last year. Really doubt economy is static.