Assassin in PvE
MrGuildBoi
Aside from farming, is there any reason to make an assassin for PvE? Is it fun to assassinate monsters or will they all target you as soon as you shadow step in? (assuming you are in a party)
RavagerOfDreams
depends on what build you run. BTW most assassins chose not to run the whole instagib thing in PVE (unless combined with [Assassins Promise]). I had fun with my sin when i played him but the game is really only as fun as you make it ^_______________^
as for the whole shadow step thing no they dont rape you preprotting is fun
as for the whole shadow step thing no they dont rape you preprotting is fun
Konig Des Todes
Assassins can work in PvE, however you must keep two things in mind to not die a lot.
1) Assassins are NOT Tanks (still don't get why people think that they are).
2) Most spike builds do NOT work in PvE. Imo, shadow stepping is an overall bad idea, at least for a starter assassin (rather low armor and people who can't shadow step right end up going out of the monk's range and dying due to lack of healing).
Keep those things in mind and you should do fine.
1) Assassins are NOT Tanks (still don't get why people think that they are).
2) Most spike builds do NOT work in PvE. Imo, shadow stepping is an overall bad idea, at least for a starter assassin (rather low armor and people who can't shadow step right end up going out of the monk's range and dying due to lack of healing).
Keep those things in mind and you should do fine.
Rhamia Darigaz
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Originally Posted by Azazel The Assassin
FlamingMetroid
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Originally Posted by Rhamia Darigaz
[glyph of swiftness][deadly paradox][shadow form] <--- i think that's why people think they can be tanks: its true
no, its because most new sins have the "ZOMG IZ A NINJA!1!1!one!!" mentality
assassins in PvE involve spamming [death blossom]and[moebius strike] to produce AoE butthurt
assassins in PvE involve spamming [death blossom]and[moebius strike] to produce AoE butthurt
Bowstring Badass
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Originally Posted by FlamingMetroid
no, its because most new sins have the "ZOMG IZ A NINJA!1!1!one!!" mentality
assassins in PvE involve spamming [death blossom]and[moebius strike] to produce AoE butthurt
Wasn't this the case when factions came out.
Anyway death blossom+moebius strike is superior in PvE then instagib for certain reasons.
assassins in PvE involve spamming [death blossom]and[moebius strike] to produce AoE butthurt
Wasn't this the case when factions came out.
Anyway death blossom+moebius strike is superior in PvE then instagib for certain reasons.
Rhamia Darigaz
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Originally Posted by FlamingMetroid
no, its because most new sins have the "ZOMG IZ A NINJA!1!1!one!!" mentality
assassins in PvE involve spamming [death blossom]and[moebius strike] to produce AoE butthurt i feel quite AoE butthurt that you disagree with meh
assassins in PvE involve spamming [death blossom]and[moebius strike] to produce AoE butthurt i feel quite AoE butthurt that you disagree with meh
Konig Des Todes
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Originally Posted by Rhamia Darigaz
[glyph of swiftness][deadly paradox][shadow form] <--- i think that's why people think they can be tanks: its true
Please note a few things:
1. I was talking about NEW assassins, and that's ineffective until your able to put 12 into Shadow Arts.
2. You need Nightfall and Eye of the North skills.
3. That's for farming, not Tanking. If your using that to tank in any ol' place, you WILL end up fighting enemies with skills to go past Shadow Form.
1. I was talking about NEW assassins, and that's ineffective until your able to put 12 into Shadow Arts.
2. You need Nightfall and Eye of the North skills.
3. That's for farming, not Tanking. If your using that to tank in any ol' place, you WILL end up fighting enemies with skills to go past Shadow Form.
Super Igor
As long as you dont tank or shadow step wayyyyyy away from the party you would pwn faces. 
Bobby2
Who's shadow stepping in PvE? 
Darkpower Alchemist
[skill]Critical Agility[/skill]
A sin that isn't trying to farm's best friend. As a normal frontline operative, this should be the IAS of choice for a sin in PvE. Easily maintained and boosts armor,too. This is the best skill ANet has made for the assassin class,imho.
If the armor insignias are implemented correctly, the sin's armor is compareable to a Paragon, thanks to CA. That's nothing to sneeze at.
A sin that isn't trying to farm's best friend. As a normal frontline operative, this should be the IAS of choice for a sin in PvE. Easily maintained and boosts armor,too. This is the best skill ANet has made for the assassin class,imho.
If the armor insignias are implemented correctly, the sin's armor is compareable to a Paragon, thanks to CA. That's nothing to sneeze at.
White Lies
Sins arnt just for farming. Hell when i got factions (1st game i got) i looked at the sin, thought they looked pretty neat and have bn playing 1 ever since. I found out the hard way sins r NOT for tanking. just play them like you wud a ranger (thats hw i do it now :P): keep killing stuff until it ur hp starts looking the tinciest bit risky, scream and kite like a maniac, heal up and rip thru sumore stuff. use the IAS mentioned by Darkpower, and then ur cooking with a steelbladed killing machine.
Hope it made sense, im not vry gd at all this putting my ideas on2 paper thing
~Lies
Hope it made sense, im not vry gd at all this putting my ideas on2 paper thing
~Lies
Tom Swift
I really enjoy playing the sin more than any other profession in the game. I don't know why. It just seems more challenging and more satisfying than the others.
fireflyry
I would suggest reading the forums more OP.
Your answer is already there.
Your answer is already there.
AshenX
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Originally Posted by Rhamia Darigaz
[glyph of swiftness][deadly paradox][shadow form] <--- i think that's why people think they can be tanks: its true
Nah, People tried tanking on sins waaaaay before deadly paradox and glyph of swiftness hit the scene. Within a week of factions coming out sins were pariahs throughout GW because everyone had learned that a sin tryinig to tank would use up all of your monks energy. On the other hand a sin makes a great hit and run skirmisher. Just dont try to play like a warrior and youll be fine.
High Moral
Before, I didnt see assassin as good in PVE at all, until I made one myself.
The mobeius spammer build is REALLY.
Throw in , critical agility, critical eyes, Save yourself and I like Assassins Remedy. And you are pretty much SET! you just have to cast your buffs up when the rest storm. That makes you arrive alitle later.
The mobeius spammer build is REALLY.
Throw in , critical agility, critical eyes, Save yourself and I like Assassins Remedy. And you are pretty much SET! you just have to cast your buffs up when the rest storm. That makes you arrive alitle later.
faraaz
Here's why Assassins are good in PvE:
1 -> Moebius + Death Blossom Spam
2 -> Maxed Crit Strikes with Way of the Master on ANY weapon..its insane!
This second point is the reason I love Assassins to death, and it takes them beyond the meh category.
[build;OwJjkxfzITLiDQ6PxZfh4aqG7aA] (Take Crit Agility instead of Crit Defenses if using this on a human player. The build code is what my heroes are using. Try this out on Zenmai...you'll be amazed! )
[build;OwpiMypMtIWDOAp/IDCgFmBdBA]
[build;OwFiMxjMtIWDq/IWEWsDi9dVAA]
These are just a few ideas mind you, you could probably find more ways of exploiting the uber leetness that is Critical Strikes
So yes...Assassin's are VERY viable in PvE. You just have to think out of the box.
And Shadow Stepping even with pre protting is a pain to manage effectively in PvE..I'd only do it if you are REALLY gung ho about the whole "chills n thrills" gameplay.
1 -> Moebius + Death Blossom Spam
2 -> Maxed Crit Strikes with Way of the Master on ANY weapon..its insane!
This second point is the reason I love Assassins to death, and it takes them beyond the meh category.
[build;OwJjkxfzITLiDQ6PxZfh4aqG7aA] (Take Crit Agility instead of Crit Defenses if using this on a human player. The build code is what my heroes are using. Try this out on Zenmai...you'll be amazed!
)[build;OwpiMypMtIWDOAp/IDCgFmBdBA]
[build;OwFiMxjMtIWDq/IWEWsDi9dVAA]
These are just a few ideas mind you, you could probably find more ways of exploiting the uber leetness that is Critical Strikes
So yes...Assassin's are VERY viable in PvE. You just have to think out of the box.
And Shadow Stepping even with pre protting is a pain to manage effectively in PvE..I'd only do it if you are REALLY gung ho about the whole "chills n thrills" gameplay.
High Moral
There gotta be some REALLY good a/p builds with spears and both
Way of the Master and Way of the assassin.
Anyone have a build they would like to share?
Way of the Master and Way of the assassin.
Anyone have a build they would like to share?
RavagerOfDreams
Way of the Master + Way of the Sin are redundant when used together. It's more effective to use a different elite such as [dark apostasy] or [stunning strike].
However if thats what you really have your heart set on ill give you a build
[way of the assassin] [way of the master] [vicious attack] [critical agility] [swift javelin] [Spear of Lightning] and your two optionals could be anything you want really [critical defenses] is nice or [wild throw] to remove stances or [assassins remedy] to prevent blind or other debilitating conditions.
However if thats what you really have your heart set on ill give you a build
[way of the assassin] [way of the master] [vicious attack] [critical agility] [swift javelin] [Spear of Lightning] and your two optionals could be anything you want really [critical defenses] is nice or [wild throw] to remove stances or [assassins remedy] to prevent blind or other debilitating conditions.
Azza
to be Smart, cast Recall on ur healer before Death Charging into battle step in do a mass amount of damage(wich the tank now should be in holding aggro), recall will end u'll be pulled out of damage zone, and u can repeat, it also help in the Rotscale Vanquish, when need to kill everything around rotscale(a propper sin wont die while doing this)...Sins can serve many [purposes, like say if there more then 1 healer in an enemy group a sin can shadow step in kill it and be out back near the group ready for the next target...Sins are really usefull in PvE just not many people can play a PvE sin without trying to be a tank O.o
High Moral
RavagerOfDreams
Hmm, you might be right with the elites Im not sure. What would be the best build for a A/P? And are they good in PvP aswell?
Hmm, you might be right with the elites Im not sure. What would be the best build for a A/P? And are they good in PvP aswell?
RavagerOfDreams
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Originally Posted by High Moral
RavagerOfDreams
Hmm, you might be right with the elites Im not sure. What would be the best build for a A/P? And are they good in PvP aswell? Well Alex made a great one awhile back however i cannot remember it entirely i can try to piece it back together but i might be wrong anyways here it goes
[Stunning Strike] [Vicious Attack] [Swift Javelin] [Critical Agility] [Way of the Master] [Critical Eye] [Assassins Remedy] optional
as for PvP they are not considered amazing however they can be fun and generally annoying
I have dabbled with [Dark Apostasy] [Way of the Master] [Critical Eye] [Vicious Attack] [Swift Javelin] [Wild Throw] [Assassins Remedy]/[critical Defenses] and [Resurrection Signet] its fun to play and it can be altered around with the Stunning Strike variations (w/o pve skills of course ^__^) You could also use the DA version in PvE just put in Critical Agility and your good to go
hope it helps
Hmm, you might be right with the elites Im not sure. What would be the best build for a A/P? And are they good in PvP aswell? Well Alex made a great one awhile back however i cannot remember it entirely i can try to piece it back together but i might be wrong anyways here it goes
[Stunning Strike] [Vicious Attack] [Swift Javelin] [Critical Agility] [Way of the Master] [Critical Eye] [Assassins Remedy] optional
as for PvP they are not considered amazing however they can be fun and generally annoying
I have dabbled with [Dark Apostasy] [Way of the Master] [Critical Eye] [Vicious Attack] [Swift Javelin] [Wild Throw] [Assassins Remedy]/[critical Defenses] and [Resurrection Signet] its fun to play and it can be altered around with the Stunning Strike variations (w/o pve skills of course ^__^) You could also use the DA version in PvE just put in Critical Agility and your good to go
hope it helps
DokkyDok
I'd advise against shadowstepping in PvE. Assassins really aren't that effective in general PvE without using Way of the Master builds(There are several of these posted in the thread) or the wonderful Death Blossom spammer.
[build prof=A/W dag=12+1+1 cri=12+1 name="Thats Mister Moebius"][Sneak Attack][Golden Fang Strike][Death Blossom][Moebius Strike][Save Yourselves][Critical Eye][Critical Agility][For Great Justice][/Build]
[build prof=A/W dag=12+1+1 cri=12+1 name="Thats Mister Moebius"][Sneak Attack][Golden Fang Strike][Death Blossom][Moebius Strike][Save Yourselves][Critical Eye][Critical Agility][For Great Justice][/Build]
X Ninja Sasuke X
sins are great in pve, especially hard mode, since they kill faster than most professions can, so the challenge becomes keeping yourself safe and doing good damage.
critical agility = sins best friend
mobius spam = gg guardian/vanguisher titles
they are just harder to play for your average player until you learn the specifics.
critical agility = sins best friend
mobius spam = gg guardian/vanguisher titles
they are just harder to play for your average player until you learn the specifics.