why should I play GW

hi,

i got some questions because i'm a world of warcraft player but i played once gw(nightfall) but i didn't like it .
but maybe there were things that i didn't know about that game , that is pretty cool .
Can you tell me wich cool things you can do in this game that is much better then world of warcraft ( but don't tell that you don't have to pay cuz i'm only mlooking at the gameplay)
And can you get armor by doing sorts of donjon or just by doing pvp ?

You have to craft armors using gold and materials. But seriously, stick with WoW. Maybe GW PvP is better than WoW, other than that, the PvE side is pretty lacking.

GW overall was probably better up untill nightfall, when they added heroes and the community was way to spread out(+ The heroes lowered the party rate even more).
Right now, as much as it pains me to say it, WoW is probably better then GW.

there are some good things about WoW that I like, and some bad things.
However, in talking about GW1, there is a whole new world to explore. No, it's not setup the same as WoW... it is more instance based and not seamless, that does not make it a bad game. No one is gonna come steal your loot, drop or wahtever. No you can't see what other toon's weapons are.. if they want to tell you they will. Some privacy is not a bad thing. The main thing is being able to explore a whole new world. One that is different in some ways from WoW but similar in other ways.

Not to mention not having to pay every month for a game you already bought.

And it shows by the lack of quality of GW lately. Seriously, he already said he doesn't want to hear that stuff.

Most of you complain about paying for WoW when you yourself probably pay for Xbox live or something

if you want competitive pvp play gw get into a good guild and gvg, although thats probably hard to do this late as most people have been playing for a while
if you want in depth roleplaying and pve play wow

If you want in-depth roleplaying and PvE go outside.

That's really a question you can answer only by yourself.

Roleplaying in depth, with a much bigger PvE parting? WoW.

Competetive play among other players? GW.

Although GW has gone downhill; I still believe it to be a top quality game in terms of competetive PvP in RPG's.

how do you mean you finished the game , the game starts at lvl 70 or 60 if you didn't had the expansion .
You have to do lot of things to have youre armor

GW has several advantages over WoW: free to play, several PvP components, level cap of 20 (less time leveling up), more realistic graphics, just to name a few.

I agree that the PvE aspect of WoW is prolly more extensive.

tell me more about the pvp system plz

Bar comprehension and flexibility. Your bar needs to be able to face many different tasks and not be a one-trick pony. Aswell as your in-game skill in positioning, and tactics. (More in the higher level arenas though)

I'm not helping and I apologize for that.

WoW has many things going for it. It has the seamless world.. that's awesome. The crafting is very nice.
The world is HUGE!
The player base is immense.
The reason to play GW...
It is a new game to explore, it is also free to play.
It is second in player base only to WoW, yes it is the next most popular MMO.
Pvp... can't help ya. I enjoy PvE too much.

IMHO, NF is the most boring campaign of them all. Yes you get hero's, that's preety much the only good thing about it.
Oh and Kamadan is also great (a.k.a Spamadan)

But if you like WoW better, stick to that game. Don't play a game you do not enjoy.

ok i dont like wow wow is all about lvl while gw skips this and gos right to gameplay as i say wow is all about having extreme amounts of time grinding and works as follow im higher lvl your lower lvl i win whill in gw its im more skill full then you thats why i win (and dont tell me other wise i played wow and know many wow and gw player and all agree with me gw is faster and easier to get into and more fun) and i will also admit yes wow has more to offer in time of game play and things to do and gw is a little lacking but hey cant have everything

EDITED by Commander Ryker : Please use punctuation, it makes your posts much easier to read.

Ok, i don't like wow. wow is all about lvl while gw skips this and gos right to gameplay. Wow is all about having extreme amounts of time grinding. It works as follows, I'm higher lvl, your lower lvl i win. While in gw its, I'm more skill full then you thats why i win. Don't tell me other wise I played wow and know many wow and gw player and all agree with me. gw is faster and easier to get into and more fun. I will also admit, yes wow has more to offer in time of game play and things to do and gw is a little lacking, but hey, cant have everything.

See how much better that is?

At least it's only about £40 for a year of xbox live, if WoW was that yearly, I would give it a try no problem, I can't justify paying around 100 (I forget what the prices are pound wise) a year just to play a game, which also makes you feel forced to play just to get your moneys worth.

I think GW is a great game, it's not for everyone, and some people say it sucks now, but other people say it's great (and I don't mean people who have only played it for a month or two <_< )

Basically to the thread creator, if you prefer to grind to level 70ish (I forget the level cap for it) and do big dungeons that requires ALOT of people, STICK with WoW, if you want to try a game that gets you to the max level early on and lets you get on with the story, then try GW.

OH and you said you played Nightfall first, I recommend trying prophecies first, the NF story is boring at the beginning but picks up later on, while the prophecies story (IMO) is great from the get go, and gives you a nice place to look at before the story really begins (pre-searing >_> )

Paying monthly for XBox Live != anything close to paying monthly for WoW.

You pay monthly for Internet to play your PC games online and then WoW has it's own added cost of $15 a month. That'd be the equivalent of say, you purchase XBox Live for a year but then end up having to pay $15 a month to play a particular game on the XBox Live which you ALREADY PURCHASED. Your analogy is flawed.

Furthermore, if you need to make a thread asking such a question as "why should I play GW?" then the answer is, you shouldn't. You should play a game because you want to play it, you shouldn't have people reason you into playing it. If you are going to do that, then why even bother?

Well, your first problem is that you started with Nightfall. I'm sure a lot of people (A LOT of people) would disagree with me, but in my opinion, Nightfall is the worst of the 4.

Reasons GW is better than WoW:
-The game is based on skill, not ability to grind. If you're a casual gamer, you can be just as good as some nerd who plays 16 hours a day.
-The player base is generally very accepting. Most of us don't consider "pwning n00bs" as one of our hobbies.
-Better graphics. Some people aren't bothered by WoW's crappy graphics, but Anet did a good job at creating a somewhat realistic world. It's not like walking into a cartoon.
-It's not a second job, like many WoW players consider gaming to be. So no 3-5 hour raids required.
-It doesn't tend to devour your soul like WoW does.

I just read every post here.

I like GW plenty. I have never played WoW so I can't comment on it. I've played GW for 2.5 years. I'm NOT a hardcore gamer but I am really into fantasy (books, movies, artwork, etc). I got GW because it got very good reviews on the game sites and was the only free MMORPG. I simply don't play enough to warrant paying a monthly fee. Well that's a lie. I play GW weekly but I still like the option of taking a guilt free hiatus if I choose.

The graphics are beautiful (especially in the Eye of the North expansion). I'm lucky to have been playing with the same guild group for 2 years so it is still loads of fun. I DON'T like that the environment is not pervasive (seamless) but that is to change in GW2.

Looking with hindsight there is NOT a lot in the way of out-of-the-box tutorial for GW but Guild Wiki (and this site) more than make up for that. I've been thoroughly impressed with the knowledge base found in both locations.

GW is good for problem solving. Because you can re-allocate skills and attribute points as well as weapons and armor and the mix of your party, there is always a way to overcome foes and obstacle. It's not what I would call the perfect RPG but as a video game it is quite inventive. I envy players seeing it all for the first time.

I don't know why Nightfall gets so bashed. I think it has some of the nicest environments. As for narratives (story lines) well...I read George R. R. Martin and compared to that ALL fantasy story lines are lacking.

I do wish GW was a bit more adult (blood, gore - think God of War or Prince of Persia) but you sell more tickets for PG13 than R and sell more games with a T rating than M.

I hope you give GW a try.

Three year subscription to WoW= $540+game costs. nuff said on that.

The question is not why you would, but why you wouldn't. I've never played WOW so I won't comment on it. I've been playing GW for 3 years and although I find it repetitive I keep on playing and find new ways to enjoy it. So my advice to you would be to give it a go if yr sick of WOW cause it can be a lot of fun.

i think I'm going to try it from the beginning

i tried the game again and i like the pvp system but can somebody tell me how to get a pet when you're a ranger

I think i didn't understand the game when i first bought it , but it's pretty cool but i still play on wow .

now i do pvp , but still have a question : what can i do with gladiator points

I have enjoyed gw and still do

ITS down to the individual on what is there enjoyment

Some guys dont like to grind(for all there is)

Some like great wealth and moan like here when they see others getting it easir than they used to...

Play the game if it does not appeal to you then leave dont bitch because its not fun for you anymore ...
Some moan on split of pve /pvp geeze grow up , you guys moaned for a long time for it. Because it does another moan

5 mill accounts and you see like 100 or so..same guys whinning (minority)

You guys can whatever you like free speech...but Anet you have did a great job on for a non subscribe game ..hats off to you. even 3 yrs on

If you tried it and didn't like it, then you probably never going to like it. I suggest Age of Conan, for people with WOW mindset.

Equip the skill Charm Animal on your skillbar.

Guild Wars owns WoW. WoW is like grinding, grinding and grinding. U get addicted, u think its the best game in the world.

Guild Wars is about fun, doing things in a team, faster combat, and about nightfall, it the worst guild wars, just try the prephocies begin and u stop immediatly playing WoW.

And about AoC, there are atm 700k players there, 30% stopped playing (just like me). It isnt a super good game, nice for a couple weeks but then "Im lvl 80, theres nothing todo anymore "

And with charm animal, find a pet and use the skill on the pet

Guild Wars and WoW both have their advantages. They are completely different games. Personally, I play both. I play more Guild Wars than WoW, however.

It all comes down to you being OK with instances or not, feeling the need to grind or not and whether or not you prefer skill-based combat to gear-based combat

I just started playing Guild Wars (Proph) a week or so ago and so far am really enjoying it. I still have a lot to learn though.

I still have my WoW account. I log in once in a while and un a heroic or two or arenas with my guildies/friends. With WoW PvP, it's all about gear. And that's fine except you know that you have to prepare yourself for weeks of tedious grinding, maybe even months, just to equip yourself to even compete. You could have a main that has run arenas and BGs forever and is all decked out. If you suddenly get the itch to try a new class out, it will be forever before you can have the gear to compete. You will go into arenas knowing that you will have your *** handed to you until you gear up. And when you think about it, you can average one piece of gear about every 5 weeks, longer for your primary weapon. That's a long time of getting /spit on and /rofl'ed at in arenas and BG's, knowing that you have the skill, but just haven't put in enough time to get the gear yet. It gets old.

Or if you go the PvE route, you can grind heroics/khara/whatever for badges. And hey, maybe in 5 or 6 weeks you will have enough badges to upgrade a belt or something :/

And the kicker is that to play PvE and PvP (for most classes), you need both sets of gear so your grinding has doubled. You can't (or shouldn't) PvP in badge gear, and you shouldn't raid in PvP gear.

I don't have enough experience in GW yet to know if/how much better it is, but so far it has been fun and fresh and new.

I've got 3 70's and an insane amount of /played time in WoW. I enjoy GW overall much more. It's a different type of game -- if you go in thinking it's a WoW style MMO, you'll get frustrated.

I enjoy being able to change my spec at any time, I like the story line. There is no real grinding in GW (compared to wow anyway), and the team dynamics are better.

I do wish there was a bit more in the way of armor skins and environment avail, but nothing to the point of absurdity.

Well I started out with Factions. (I guess the Assassin chick on the box attracted me to it rather than scary looking Eve LOL)

Anyway, immediately I was hooked. Now, I will admit that I have NO experience with other MMO's, including ZERO Everquest, and ZERO WoW, so maybe my comparing abilities are limited - they are.

I don't really know what it was that made me stop playing all other games in my possession, but something did. I bought EotN soon after Factions, then followed up with the other two campaigns.

I was so proud of myself when i completed Weh No Su, when I first tamed the Black Moa, and when adding Jora to my Hero group.

Now I am finding extreme pleasure in helping others. Whether it is donating collectable drops that I don't need anymore, or offering advice, or helping on missions. Although I have not finished a single campaign or EotN yet, I am living this thing, not just storming through to the end.

It's what you make of it, not what everyone else says about it.

Shane

The best advantage GW has over WoW is the graphics. They are amazing.

I played WoW up to lvl. 60 on one character, with several others in the 20-30 range. On Guild Wars, I've only played Nightfall, and I hit lvl. 20 not too long ago. Purely PvE on both games.

GW pros:

1) Travel: Travelling around in WoW is ungodly tedious. It's an unacceptable waste of precious minutes off of my life. I won't say any more about this.

2) Gear and skills: You can have very decent gear and skills by the time you reach lvl. 20, and you can get gear and skills with the best stats available a short time after that. There is no farming for 5 hrs. in order to get a new sword that does 1% more damage, and which you have to pretend makes a humanly noticable effect on gameplay.

WoW pros:

1) Graphics: I actually prefer WoW graphics simply because it's easier to see what is going on. My biggest beef with GW graphics is that every creature has it's name permanantly displayed right in front of it. When they are grouped up, it's hard to see what you're fighting through the 5 or 6 lines of text.

2) Gear and skills: The downside of getting the best stuff early in GW is that, very quickly, there really isn't anything you can get that improves your character. In Wow, when you get new skills, they are in addition to your old skills, so you gain something. In GW, you have to swap out a skill that was probably equally good.

So, in summary....
I quit WoW because I was very annoyed by how ridiculously long it took to get even the smallest boost to your character. In GW, you get a whole bunch of options right away, but now I'm in a situation where I feel like I don't know why I should keep playing my GW character, even though there are tons of quests left. I've looked at what skills I don't have, and I can honestly say none of them are better than what I have now. My armor has the best stats I can get. I'm getting gold, but have no idea what to spend it on.... Still, I couldn't go back to WoW for the reasons above.

Why should you play a MMORPG at all, it's pointless or a waste of time, go learn a real skill, work overtime, get a real hobby

Says the poster in the MMORPG specific forum.

Make that a double

Oh and Franco Power - your avatar is a total babe.

From my some-what limited experience in WoW I can give a few things that GW definitely has better.

PvE

Being good in high-end pve in GW is all based around skill, as each party member can have only 8 skills with them in any given area, and in all but 2 high end dungeons the party limit is 8 you have to coordinate the skills that everyone takes along, that they compliment each other and synergise. Maximum equipment is easy to get, it's how well you can play your build is play it in the team that determine success.

Now this has partly been lost to a large ammount of players dew to an extremely overpowered pve only skill from the last expansion (Ursan Blessing) but I feel you're missing out on 99% of what GW pve is about if you stick to using that. I'd try and find a guild that still uses actual builds instead of 1 skill to own them all.

PvP

About the same what I said about pve, but now instead of facing opponents with fixed skill bars, you're facing people that are doing exactly the same as you, working as a team, coordinated attacks etc. It's all about strategy and cooperation because everyone has max gear.

u should play gw cause its way more balanced than wow pvp at least, you have 30 horde dudes onto 1 alliance dude in battlegrounds and die before u can touch a skill