why ecto's will not go up in price if they nerf shadow form

therangereminem

therangereminem

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Join Date: Jan 2007

R/Mo

ok lots of pople have this whole ideal that ectos will rise if they nerf shadow form, this is not true in anyways yesit might lvel off at 3.7 or 3.5k but will never again go over 4k,

so to know why this is ture you wil have to look at supply and demand.
for ecto to go up in price this will have to happen

the amount of poeple selling to trader have to me far less then the poeple buying. so

selling to trader < buying from trader

the tradder does not know how manyecto drop so the sf perma is not the reason why ecto's took a noise dive, here is the real reason

we have 600/smite farma and such most builds farm areas that dont drop alot of ecto like plains does and those build harder to run.also they take longer to do. the perma farm is easy takes hardly no brains to do and is fast and gives 6X times the ecto.

now we have aeasy fast non fail wy to farm alot of ectos , now we have pople with a stack of ecto thats never had more then 20k to there name. and there liek i hate spamming to sell, but trader buying for only 500gold less then what i could sell to real poeple for. 500g not much i have 250 ectos. i will stillget loads and be rich like those other guys.

and thatss the reason its not just sf its the fact the pople with no brains selling to trader like there stacks of wood.

btw 500gtimes 250 =125k so newb that alot fo money to you its worth the 20 min it takes to sell to real poeple soyou dont hurt the gw eco.

anyways i dont like to rant much just thought i would share and descus the ecto fallign in price and the real reason it is doing so

over all nerfing sf will not make ecto rise all it will do is stop them from going any lower, and thats it

Ate of DK

Ate of DK

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Join Date: Oct 2005

Netherlands

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Yes, I sold like 5000 ecto's to kill the ecto price and then quit GW.
/sarcasm off.

But the OP is right. Anyways, I'll be making a lot of money, I bought a hell of a lot UW scrolls for 1.3K two weeks ago and if I sell them a la minute I get 1.8K from the trader! Who says the GW economy can not be predicted?
Soon scrolls will run out, like before the last SS/LB weekend (and there wasn't even a A/E back than). Guess what happens if all those additional A/E wanna buy scrolls as well. GoGo Anet, I'm rich!

Murmel

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your kinda right.

but please fix all of your misspellings... They're all over <.<

sibelang

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another SF vs ecto thread >.>

therangereminem

therangereminem

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R/Mo

not a sf/ecto thread its a thread on why ecto wont go up as to do with sf but not 100%

evenfall

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Join Date: May 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by Ate of DK
But the OP is right. Anyways, I'll be making a lot of money, I bought a hell of a lot UW scrolls for 1.3K two weeks ago and if I sell them a la minute I get 1.8K from the trader! Who says the GW economy can not be predicted?
Soon scrolls will run out, like before the last SS/LB weekend (and there wasn't even a A/E back than). Guess what happens if all those additional A/E wanna buy scrolls as well. GoGo Anet, I'm rich!
UW/Fow Scrolls are already sold out at the trader.

papryk

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Feb 2006

Nancy

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SF nerf>less ecto farmed>less moron who sell ecto to trader>more ppl will buy ecto from trader>ecto pirce goes up
simple as that

Ate of DK

Ate of DK

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Join Date: Oct 2005

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Quote:
Originally Posted by evenfall
UW/Fow Scrolls are already sold out at the trader.
They are?

And that with less than 160 min. favor left. Finally some luck on my side.

Willow O Whisper

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Denmark

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Nice thread .

Dronte

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I like your grammar. WTB more SF/ecto threads!

Leonhart

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I hate reading text that is secretly encoded so that I cannot comprehend what it is about, I like that part where he denies that it isn't a ecto/sf thread when it is clearly about both :/

deluxe

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Reason for low ecto price is SF sins selling ecto to trader, if they stop doing that, price goes up again. Simple.

R.Shayne

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Join Date: Oct 2007

There is already enough ecto / shard / shadow threads. I vote merge or close this one.

jonnique

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If they nerf shadow form people will go back grinding their titles(favor will go up slowly).

The price of the ecto is still unstable since ecto is still use as currency.

People can still farm ecto in the dragon festival missions.

Shadowmoon

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Quote:
Originally Posted by papryk
SF nerf>less ecto farmed>less moron who sell ecto to trader>more ppl will buy ecto from trader>ecto pirce goes up
simple as that
who would buy ecto from the trader if they can get ecto for cheaper from players, and there isn't a shortage of ecto. Your logic train fails at that steps. Unless Anet adds another use for ecto (like that would happen), ecto will probably not recover. I suggest switching to a more solid item, i.e. lockpicks. These will never for worth less than 1k or more than 1.25k, and can be easily sold for 1.2k. And the amount of title hunter using them will never decrease much, teasure hunter is a huge title, and then there unlucky that 3 times as large.

Tom Swift

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Aug 2007

Quote:
Originally Posted by deluxe
Reason for low ecto price is SF sins selling ecto to trader, if they stop doing that, price goes up again. Simple.
Not quite -

people also have to BUY from trader for the price to rise. And that is what I don't think will happen as there is an oversupply among players already.

Nightow

Nightow

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Join Date: Feb 2006

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Tom Swift
Not quite -

people also have to BUY from trader for the price to rise. And that is what I don't think will happen as there is an oversupply among players already.

Right. Also, who in their right mind wants to stand around in Kamadan, trying to sell their supply for an ungodly amt of time? They'd just rather gather what they have and make a quick buck off of the trader.

Bekkr

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Quote:
Originally Posted by therangereminem
ok lots of pople have this whole ideal that ectos will rise if they nerf shadow form, this is not true in anyways yesit might lvel off at 3.7 or 3.5k but will never again go over 4k,

so to know why this is ture you wil have to look at supply and demand.
for ecto to go up in price this will have to happen

the amount of poeple selling to trader have to me far less then the poeple buying. so

selling to trader < buying from trader

the tradder does not know how manyecto drop so the sf perma is not the reason why ecto's took a noise dive, here is the real reason

we have 600/smite farma and such most builds farm areas that dont drop alot of ecto like plains does and those build harder to run.also they take longer to do. the perma farm is easy takes hardly no brains to do and is fast and gives 6X times the ecto.

now we have aeasy fast non fail wy to farm alot of ectos , now we have pople with a stack of ecto thats never had more then 20k to there name. and there liek i hate spamming to sell, but trader buying for only 500gold less then what i could sell to real poeple for. 500g not much i have 250 ectos. i will stillget loads and be rich like those other guys.

and thatss the reason its not just sf its the fact the pople with no brains selling to trader like there stacks of wood.

btw 500gtimes 250 =125k so newb that alot fo money to you its worth the 20 min it takes to sell to real poeple soyou dont hurt the gw eco.

anyways i dont like to rant much just thought i would share and descus the ecto fallign in price and the real reason it is doing so

over all nerfing sf will not make ecto rise all it will do is stop them from going any lower, and thats it
Dude, seriously? Spelling, punctuation, grammar. You should make friends with them. I mean, c'mon, even Firefox has a built-in spell checker now. As is, this post is only just barely readable, and from what I can gather, pretty poorly thought-out anyway.

Topic:
I disagree with pretty much everything in this post that I can make heads or tails of. If you remove the increased supply, prices go up. It might take a long time, but they would. Not saying I think a SF nerf is coming, mind you, but if it did, then yes, ectos (look ma, no unnecessary apostrophes!) would eventually go up in price at the trader.

fenix

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Yeah, ecto really will go back up. It has in the past, it will now. Just wait and you'll see.

therangereminem

therangereminem

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R/Mo

well ecto 10k then goes down to 6k then 5k and flats out never has gone back up now it happened again ecto drop be time it will flat out at 3.5k from trader it will not go back up

Jetdoc

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As said in other threads, it will likely cause the ecto price to rise as some of the paranoia that's being spawned by the SF farm will die away.

The extent of the rise, however, is unknown, and I too am skeptical that the price will rise to pre-SF farm days. The combination of that nerf and the loss of favor might cause paranoia to swing the other way, however...so we'll just have to wait and see.

Playing the ecto market right now has to be one of the biggest gambles in GW right now, outside of Nine Rings.

nitetime

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Join Date: May 2005

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Im so happy everyone seems to be some sort of gw economy expert. Now if everyone who has been wrong in the past would just shut up, the handful of us left over could have a decent conversation.

lilraceangel3

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Tom Swift
Not quite -

people also have to BUY from trader for the price to rise. And that is what I don't think will happen as there is an oversupply among players already.

You also have to remember that if there are less ecto drops, less people are spamming, which causes more people to have to buy the ectos from the trader. So yes, the price would rise, not quickly, but it will go back up. You have to think of these things like the stock market...buy low, sell high. (Unless they start giving out sub-prime mortgages to the residents of Fishermans Haven, who we all know can't afford them. Then everything goes in the crapper...art imitating life)

Evilreintje

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you didn't include the ecto sucktion of fow armors >_> not all people buy them just to sell them again x] so when less drop and more are being spent, the price will go up, no sf = less ecto = more demand duh

viper11025

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Well, just so you guys know.
Ectos need to get a kick in the pants.
XD
Arn't you hoping to see the 100k+ 10000000000000000000000e Panda Mini Prices?
XD

niek2004

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I have gathered about 400E now. Ill just wait a month and then sell it. Prices will go up.

Before A/E the ecto price was already dropping... and there are more ways to farm plains than just with SF. Obbyflesh eles can do it too.

Fay Vert

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Just another, very thinly disguised, "I'm making money by expoiting a hole in the game, so please don't close it" thread.

Dylananimus

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"yesit might lvel off at 3.7 or 3.5k but will never again go over 4k,"

Um, it's at 4.1k at trader to buy now.

Gregslot

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Join Date: Aug 2006

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It is not our fault if you have stacked up a lot of ectos and didint wanted to sell them.
I find this more then righteous to reduce the price of ectos.
I find very idiotic having itens you dont plan to use, specially if they worth a lot.
Now normal players can actually dream to buy their obsidian armor, like me, i am getting myself one at the end of the week.
So stop beeing selfish and get used to the idea that there are more people in this game that want to buy an obsidian armor (buying chaos gloves are not an excuse because they are ridiculously ridiculous and look like a stupid item from those Korean MMO)
Enough!

Ate of DK

Ate of DK

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Join Date: Oct 2005

Netherlands

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Dylananimus
"yesit might lvel off at 3.7 or 3.5k but will never again go over 4k,"

Um, it's at 4.1k at trader to buy now.
Yes, I can confirm that, a guildie just said 4.1K as well and I checked it myself. And UW scrolls cost 2.3K at the scroll trader right now. Favor is rising again atm because it's evening here in Europe. 80min remaining.

Tom Swift

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Aug 2007

Quote:
Originally Posted by Evilreintje
you didn't include the ecto sucktion of fow armors >_> not all people buy them just to sell them again x] so when less drop and more are being spent, the price will go up, no sf = less ecto = more demand duh
This will only be true if demand for FoW armor outstrips the supply of ectos already in the hands of players willing to sell for less than the trader. You are assuming the demand for FoW armor will remain high. I suspect once the prices rise about 500g, demand for FoW will reach an all time low as most people who want it already got the ecto for it over the last few weeks and the few who did not will be unwilling to buy at much over the present value. Low supply does not always translate into high demand.

And yes, they are 4.1 to BUY from the trader (I suspect the price rose a little as people were scrambling to get the last few they needed or wanted before favor ended) but that's not the figure most people are looking at. The figure most people are wanting to know about is what are they worth to sell.

Yawgmoth

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At the moment they announce a SF nerf ectos will go up immediately. And will continue to go up, up to the prices from before the overfarm craze. They will once again become the number 1 currency, stable again, and the world will be saved. GG.

Tamgi Sun

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Quote:
ok lots of pople have this whole ideal that ectos will rise if they nerf shadow form, this is not true in anyways yesit might lvel off at 3.7 or 3.5k but will never again go over 4k,
Ecto at 4.1K at Trader.

Ate of DK

Ate of DK

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Join Date: Oct 2005

Netherlands

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Tamgi Sun
Ecto at 4.1K at Trader.
Gratz, you're number 3 to post that.

Thizzle

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Join Date: Apr 2008

They nerfed it.

papryk

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Feb 2006

Nancy

The Autonomy[?????????]

Quote:
Originally Posted by Shadowmoon
who would buy ecto from the trader if they can get ecto for cheaper from players, and there isn't a shortage of ecto. Your logic train fails at that steps. Unless Anet adds another use for ecto (like that would happen), ecto will probably not recover. I suggest switching to a more solid item, i.e. lockpicks. These will never for worth less than 1k or more than 1.25k, and can be easily sold for 1.2k. And the amount of title hunter using them will never decrease much, teasure hunter is a huge title, and then there unlucky that 3 times as large.
/yawn
u fail

ecto will be again 5k+


ps. 4.5k atm @ trader

Vague Twilight

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Quote:
Originally Posted by therangereminem
ok lots of pople have this whole ideal that ectos will rise if they nerf shadow form, this is not true in anyways yesit might lvel off at 3.7 or 3.5k but will never again go over 4k,
Oops? Looks like you got wtfpwned like 3 hours after your post.

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Snoes

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Join Date: Apr 2006

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Ate of DK
Yes, I sold like 5000 ecto's to kill the ecto price and then quit GW.
/sarcasm off.

But the OP is right. Anyways, I'll be making a lot of money, I bought a hell of a lot UW scrolls for 1.3K two weeks ago and if I sell them a la minute I get 1.8K from the trader! Who says the GW economy can not be predicted?
Soon scrolls will run out, like before the last SS/LB weekend (and there wasn't even a A/E back than). Guess what happens if all those additional A/E wanna buy scrolls as well. GoGo Anet, I'm rich!
I hope you enjoy all the scrolls you bought, its nerfed.
But dont worry, atleast you can enter UW aloooooooot.

Angelina Collins

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The nerf for SF has not even been implimented and the price jumped up a 1K

Snoes

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Angelina Collins
The nerf for SF has not even been implimented and the price jumped up a 1K
It already jumped when the favor dropped below 100mins + the nerf was not yet announced.