3way Hero Smiters: Defence/Damage/Interrupt

dont feel no pain

dont feel no pain

Forge Runner

Join Date: Sep 2005

Uk,Wales

We've all seen 3 Nec builds, Now witness 3 monks, which I have tested to be superior to 3 necs in many areas.

3x Monk/Me with this build:
[build prof=Monk/Mesmer Smiting=12+1+2 Divine=11+1 Insp=6][Signet of Judgment][Castigation Signet][Bane Signet][reversal of damage][smiters boon][power return][mantra of inscriptions][resurrection signet][/build]

+1 Healer Monk
+1 Protect Monk
+2 Optional

If running dual hero teams, have 4 of these and 2 Prot/Heal. Try it! Its very very easy to use, and very durable! I have completed almost every single dungeon with this build with no problems

mistokibbles

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Mar 2008

N/A

I haven't tried it yet but it doesn't look like it's superior to Sabway. The minion bomber was great for damage and as a wall with some utility, the n/rt healer could go practically forever since enemies/minions are dying all the time, and the ss necro is...a ss necro. Mind you, I'm not saying that this build is crap. I'll test it out later and post the results

Shayne Hawke

Shayne Hawke

Departed from Tyria

Join Date: May 2007

Clan Dethryche [dth]

R/

lrn2makebuildz

[build prof=Monk/Mesmer Smiting=12+1+2 Divine=11+1 Insp=6][Signet of Judgment][Castigation Signet][Bane Signet][reversal of damage][smiters boon][power return][mantra of inscriptions][resurrection signet][/build]

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+1 Healer Monk
+1 Protect Monk
+2 Optional I about lol'd at seeing this. I usually run my Triple-Necro with a prot Monk, and that's just in NM. I take both for HM. If you're suggesting off the bat that we need two monks, you're not telling me that your build has great survivability.

I'll try it out in Shards HM, but that's about the only place I'd consider taking so much Smiting power.

Nainoa

Nainoa

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jun 2008

USA

ARMY

W/

The damage skills from this build are by far inferior to what a minion bomber or physical support necro gives with 3 skill slots. I like the utility, but this just seems like a poor build.

Alastair

Academy Page

Join Date: Sep 2006

Your Moms Name Here [derp]

W/Me

the divine favor is pointless. Should probably put in smite hex or purge signet...

-Alastair

dont feel no pain

dont feel no pain

Forge Runner

Join Date: Sep 2005

Uk,Wales

I've known the way this forum works for quite some time, I'd expect a lot of scepticism

Just give it a try ok, or even give it a try with a friend for 4 of these monks, if you dont like it then, dont bother, I used sabway for quite some time, but I'm usualy using this now.

Vehemence

Vehemence

Academy Page

Join Date: Apr 2008

Perth

[LOD]

W/

Tried it. The build is ok but it lacks in term of damage dealing. Good job btw. Peace~~

distilledwill

distilledwill

Forge Runner

Join Date: Sep 2006

Blighty

The Legion of the Blue Blade

R/Mo

This idea was suggested a loooooooooooong time ago. Sorry

Should be able to find the thread if you search for it.

KartMan

KartMan

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Dec 2006

Grand Line

Plz Use R Instead of Q for [req]

hmm yeah right
I like smiting prayers too but for some other skills, also [smiter's boon] is not really useful as the only spell that target ally is [reversal of damage]

I tend to use [strength of honor] [judge's insight] to boost melee damage
[smite condition] [smite hex] are good also if you have smiter's boon
no direct damage but much better support

dont feel no pain

dont feel no pain

Forge Runner

Join Date: Sep 2005

Uk,Wales

ahhh crap, it was me who posted the previous version of this, but thats when i was toying around, this was my final, and yeah you can tweak it a lot

distilledwill

distilledwill

Forge Runner

Join Date: Sep 2006

Blighty

The Legion of the Blue Blade

R/Mo

hehe... soz man, i forgot it was you!

Fair does. I have tried it before, works kinda nice in undead areas as always. But Im not sure the DPS is higher in areas which have corpses as barbs + minions + death nova = asplosions! The artificer mesmer might be better for survivability and DPS as their Mantra is more powerful and so they can spam SoJ more frequently, maybe change one of the monks into a mes?

-Lotus-

Jungle Guide

Join Date: May 2008

smiting should be left to E/Mos with ether renewal. vekk is getting quite good at it.

Marverick

Marverick

Forge Runner

Join Date: Aug 2006

R/

As said, lack of damage is the killer. If you're running with other people, then having each Monk maintain [Strength of Honor] and [Judge's Insight] on some melee would work better. Maybe use [Boon Signet] instead of SoJ for energy.

Castigation and Bane Signet aren't used properly by heroes; they're just spammed everywhere, including on non-attacking foes.

Also, problem with 3 Smiting monks is you don't have any other Monks to rune as healers/protters so when playing with other people and you need a heal/prot hero, you'll have to rerune them back and forth

azizul1975

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jul 2007

GMT+8

The Elite Guard of Tyria (TEGO)

Mo/

tried this one with few tweak. work nicely in the areas of undead. in other areas, may struggle a bit though.

also i prefer Me/mo heroes over Mo/me for this build , since me/mo can distribute the attributes nicely fc, smits and insp.

Super Igor

Banned

Join Date: Mar 2008

why should you kno? Oo

A/W

SoJ, signet spam, rod, interrupts...teh lurve!

azizul1975

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jul 2007

GMT+8

The Elite Guard of Tyria (TEGO)

Mo/

by the way, to OP, i found that heroes are not keen on keeping up the smiter's boon. i had to micro them so that they have the enchantment. if they can keep it up,at rank 12 DF it is an automatic 70+hp heal when they cast smiting enchantment/spell on an ally . 3 heroes doing that, man , thats superb.

how is your heroes doing at keeping it up..?

bhavv

bhavv

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Sep 2006

I dont really need to try this to know that it isnt very good. The damage output for PVE is too low, and the defence doesnt even compare to what sabway or imbagon offers.

The only time I have found a smiter to be useful in PVE for general use is a strength of honour bonder in a melee party - E/A and 2x dervish heroes all with conjures plus a smite bonder is crazy powerful. I use the two warrior hench plus monk hench with this and it reaps through quite a lot of PVE.

Snoes

Snoes

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Apr 2006

Belgium

already came of a name?
dontfeelnopainway?

DarkSpirit

DarkSpirit

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Feb 2006

Redmond

This is what I use for HM Shards of Orr:

2X [Shards Signet Mesmers;OQNUAORNW3OPAkvJBlY9hIuVBA]

...with Artificer Insignia.

1X [Monk Signet Smiter;OwUTMU3C15BYSwroErvLh6LTA]