5 man prophecies only Sorrow's Furnace build needed

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Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: May 2006

New Phoenix Rising

Mo/N

Greetings.
Me and some other friends want to do Sorrow's in HM or NM, and all my friends only got prophecies. Anyone remember the old builds for healer, bonder, mm, ss and tank using only prophecies skills?

This is what i remember:

Tank: [healing hands][dolyak signet]
MM: [animate bone fiend][blood of the master]
SS: [spiteful spirit][arcane echo][desecrate enchantments][spinal shivers][awaken the blood][blood ritual]
Bonder: [life barrier][life bond][blessed signet][mantra of inscriptions]
Healer: [word of healing]

If you got suggestions for the rest of the skills, or entirely new builds, please tell me

jiggles

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Sep 2007

N/

jeez, going back a while here

the only thing i can remebr is that the tank is a 'stance' tank, EG using lots of stances. Else im lost

Scown-dog

Scown-dog

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Aug 2005

Canada-nuff said

Peace Machine Grrr [DiE]-with Kanwulf until I feel the boot

W/N

It isint nearly as effective now because of the minon cap and because ss will cause monsters to flee.

masta_yoda

masta_yoda

Banned

Join Date: Feb 2007

most hated players in the [game]

R/Mo

all u really need is 1 melee, 1 ss or nuker, 1 mm, 1 healer

thebullion24k

thebullion24k

Academy Page

Join Date: Jan 2007

Chicago

Nagas With Attitude [nWa]

A/Rt

Put life attune on that bar for GG heals with HH and Heal seed

Snoes

Snoes

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Apr 2006

Belgium

i remember some Mm's took glyph of renewal -> vereta's sacriface
also bonder had vital blessing, watchful spirit, life att,...

Turbobusa

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jan 2006

By the Luxon Scavenger

The Mentalists [THPK]

N/

meh i remember taking a well necro with some curses and BR

zwei2stein

zwei2stein

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Jun 2006

Europe

The German Order [GER]

N/

I am fairly sure that you dont really need "tankway" to clear SF. Even as 5-man

Anyway, tank was also taking [Watch Yourself], [Shield Stance] and [Gladiators Defense] instead of HH and [Deadly Riposte] / [Riposte], [Rebirth]

Bonder was usually taking [Balthazars Spirit] (both for himself and for tank) and [Life Attunement], [Rebirth]

Healer was also taking [Healing Seed], [Dwaynas Kiss], [Essence Bond] (put on tank), [Rebirth]

SS was also taking [Suffering] and [Res Signet]

MM was also using [Bone Horrors] and [Heal Area] and [Tainted flesh] as elite (put on tank) they also carried [Deathly Swarm], [Rebirth]

all in all, theese builds are very sucky by todays standards, but they can work well if you are interested is reliving good old 5-man SF days

Persian Daddy

Banned

Join Date: Jun 2008

A/E

not sure if this would work anymore without the gear trick though...
but you can just stick to doin kilroy quest you're a mm, bring two warrior hench and two monk hench and you're good to go!

Teutonic Paladin

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Feb 2006

TW

W/

It still works, the tank just has to actually know how to tank, everyone should be bonded, and the WoH needs to not suck. However, you'd probably clear much faster with a more conventional build where all characters were dedicated damage dealers with utility (DSlash Warriors, damage reduction skills on the SS) and two monks.

quad

quad

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: May 2006

New Phoenix Rising

Mo/N

I want to point out that this is not intended for money farming with most effectiveness, but just doing the Furnace while having fun like in the old days. I also dont think that 1 human and 4 henchmen can do the Furnace in HM, Persian Daddy.
DSlash is also not a Prophecies skill. I could use [enfeebling blood] for the SS, thats correct. Any other suggestions than these builds? A nuker maybe? Barragers? E/Rt prot? N/Mo WoH?

RebelGeek

RebelGeek

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jun 2008

Untimely Demise [Err7]

R/

Unfortunately you cant do E/Rt since, like you said yourself, your friends only have Prophecies. I remember doing Barrage/Pet teams there in the old days so you could probably make a passable build with 3 B/P's, a MM, and a Healer with what you have to work with.

Of course the basics:
[skill]Barrage[/skill][skill]Lightning Reflexes[/skill][skill]Favorable Winds[/skill][skill]Charm Animal[/skill]
[skill]Barrage[/skill][skill]Lightning Reflexes[/skill][skill]Winnowing[/skill][skill]Charm Animal[/skill]
[skill]Barrage[/skill][skill]Lightning Reflexes[/skill][skill]Charm Animal[/skill][skill]Revive Animal[/skill]

As for the MM an [skill]Aura of the Lich[/skill] might work. Probably better if the Nec goes [skill]Spiteful Spirit[/skill][skill]Mark of Pain[/skill] though and you change the third B/P for a [skill]Gladiators Defense[/skill] stancer.

Usual [skill]Word of Healing[/skill] Proph monk.

Don't know how good it would do in a 5man like that, haven't done Sorrows in forever. You're with friends though so you should have better teamwork than most Pugs so it could be doable.

quad

quad

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: May 2006

New Phoenix Rising

Mo/N

Thanks for the suggestion guys. RebelGeek, i meant a E/Mo [[Ether Renewal] prot, but dont know if that is viable since you dont have [[Glyph of Swiftness].

I made these builds, what do you think?

[build prof=W/Mo name="Stance Tank" tactics=12+1+1 strength=12+1][gladiator's defense][bonetti's defense][shield stance][dolyak signet][watch yourself][shields up][riposte][rebirth][/build]
[build prof=N/Mo name="MM" death=12+1+3 soul=12+1 blood=3+1][deathly swarm][animate bone horror][animate bone fiend][blood of the master][aura of the lich][taste of death][dark bond][rebirth][/build]
[build prof=N/Me name="SS Nuker" curses=12+1+3 soul=9+1 blood=9+1][arcane echo][spiteful spirit][desecrate enchantments][barbs][spinal shivers][enfeebling blood][blood ritual][res sig][/build]
[build prof=N/Mo name="WoH Hybrid" soul=8+1+1 healing=12 protection=10][word of healing][reversal of fortune][shielding hands][aegis][heal party][protective spirit][remove hex][rebirth][/build]
[build prof=E/Mo name="Earth ele" earth=12+1+3 energy=12+1 prot=3][earthquake][eruption][ward against melee][ward against foes][armor of earth][elemental attunement][earth attunement][rebirth][/build]
[build prof=E/Mo name="Fire ele" fire=12+1+3 energy=12+1 water=3 prot=0][deep freeze][Glyph of Renewal][meteor shower][glyph of lesser energy][mark of rodgort][Rodgort's Invocation][fire attunement][rebirth][/build]
[build prof=R/W name="Barrage ranger" marksmanship=12+1+3 expertise=9+1 wilderness=3+1 tactics=9][barrage][distracting shot][savage shot]["watch yourself!"][whirling defense][troll unguent][antidote signet][res sig][/build]
[build prof=Mo/E name="WoH healer" heal=12+1+1 prot=10+1 divine=8+1][word of healing][dwayna's kiss][mend ailment][glyph of lesser energy][heal party][protective spirit][remove hex][rebirth][/build]
[build prof=Mo/Me name="Bonder" divine=10+1+3 protection=11+3 inspiration=10][life barrier][life bond][balthazar's spirit][blessed signet][mantra of inscriptions][signet of devotion][aegis][rebirth][/build]

Some of these builds can be set up to a 5 man build.

Edit: added a build

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Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: May 2006

New Phoenix Rising

Mo/N

This is my result as of now.

http://pvx.wikia.com/wiki/Build:Team...9;s_Prophecies