Ecto Drop

Darks Legacy

Darks Legacy

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Nov 2007

Axis Nova

Mo/

I think this may be somewhere hidden in the forums but i coudlnt find it. SO the question is, when farming monsters for ecto, do taking on groups individually drop more ectos than having you pull a whole mass of groups together?

LordOfTheSquids

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Mar 2008

Knights of Draconis Ordinis

N/Mo

no, pulling a bunch of groups is just faster.

minaau

minaau

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Dec 2007

TIG

Mo/

i heard that pulling a big mass of groups together reduces chances to get an ecto

not sure if its right

The Arching Healer

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Sep 2006

Super Kaon Action Team [SuKa]

no, pulling a bunch of groups is just faster. + you get the same number of ecto's

Icy The Mage

Icy The Mage

Forge Runner

Join Date: Apr 2008

Canada

E/

Drop rate is determined when you walk into the instance, it makes no difference on how you kill them.

xPIMPx

xPIMPx

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jul 2005

Uk

Hmmm Defrosted Cat [Poo]

W/A

Umm i always thought if you kill a large amount in 1 go then only normal drops such as golds and purples will drop less per monster. But ectos are unaffected.

Mr. Undisclosed

Mr. Undisclosed

I phail

Join Date: Mar 2007

Phailville

D/

Quote:
Originally Posted by xPIMPx
Umm i always thought if you kill a large amount in 1 go then only normal drops such as golds and purples will drop less per monster. But ectos are unaffected. Matterials nor gold items are effected by mass kills.

Nestaron

Nestaron

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Mar 2006

Glasgow, Scotland

Banished Dragons

A/

More info @ http://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/Loot_scaling

A Leprechaun

A Leprechaun

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Feb 2006

W/

Mass kill = Less drops (ecto and gold weapons unaffected).

By my reckoning.

~A Leprechaun~

Marverick

Marverick

Forge Runner

Join Date: Aug 2006

R/

Quote:
Originally Posted by A Leprechaun
Mass kill = Less drops (ecto and gold weapons unaffected).

By my reckoning.

~A Leprechaun~ Conspiring is bad.

Mass killing does not decrease drops. There was a thread somewhere here in the farming forum comparing the drops of a SV vs SS 55hp necro farming. Search for it. They were the same drops.

/endthread

Kazamafury

Kazamafury

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: May 2005

Mo/

What should have been the /endthread was the link to lootscaling.
Pasting again for emphasis: http://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/Loot_scaling

Everything else in this thread is purely based on experience and not what the official word of the mechanics of the drop system is.

Marverick

Marverick

Forge Runner

Join Date: Aug 2006

R/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Kazamafury
What should have been the /endthread was the link to lootscaling.
Pasting again for emphasis: http://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/Loot_scaling

Everything else in this thread is purely based on experience and not what the official word of the mechanics of the drop system is. Wiki is based on the word of the community. Anyone can edit it. Which means it's also based on user experience.

Divinus Stella

Divinus Stella

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Nov 2005

Wales

Steel Phoenix

Quote:
Originally Posted by Marverick
Conspiring is bad.

Mass killing does not decrease drops. There was a thread somewhere here in the farming forum comparing the drops of a SV vs SS 55hp necro farming. Search for it. They were the same drops.

/endthread Try it out yourself, mass killing = less drops.

Sora267

Sora267

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Dec 2006

Quote:
Originally Posted by Divinus Stella
Try it out yourself, mass killing = less drops. Only for the drops affected by loot scaling. It appears to me that golds and rare material drops stay the same whether I mass kill or not.

weretoad

weretoad

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Mar 2007

league of the elite

Me/

some guy a bit back proved that mass kill doesn't change it and killing one at a time does help

Icy The Mage

Icy The Mage

Forge Runner

Join Date: Apr 2008

Canada

E/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Divinus Stella
Try it out yourself, mass killing = less drops. Which was proven wrong by someone on this forum (search for it, I'm too lazy to link it). He and his brother both entered the same instance (different PCs, solo, same connection) one of them went in as a 55 monk with SoJ, and another went SV 55 Necro, and they got the EXACT same drops.

Infectious

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Dec 2006

New Zealand FTW

Ex Talionis [Law]

Mass killing = faster = more drops over time
/end thread

Skinny Corpse

Skinny Corpse

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Mar 2007

Company of Corpses [CoC]

"...are scaled to your party size and to the speed at which enemies are killed."

Now, the speed-part of the explaination is new to me.. never seen that before on the actual wiki..
..nor experienced any difference.

isamu kurosawa

isamu kurosawa

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Nov 2005

United Kingdom

Me/

You do get less drops by killing faster. An example is to use a VwK warrior to kill mobs, then use a shadowform ele or sin.

The ele will kill all foes at the same time and will get less drops.

It seems to be a loot scalling bug as it doesn't affect drops exempt from loot scalling as already stated.

|pyro|

|pyro|

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jun 2006

Me/

Killing a mob epr mob is more profitable in the short run but takes longet time, but on the long run, its better to kill fast hope for a an ecto and move to the next group.

A Leprechaun

A Leprechaun

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Feb 2006

W/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Marverick
Conspiring is bad.

Mass killing does not decrease drops. There was a thread somewhere here in the farming forum comparing the drops of a SV vs SS 55hp necro farming. Search for it. They were the same drops.

/endthread Tbh I don't care one bit what you think. I ,on many occasions, have tested this, not only on separate runs but also on the same runs with different groups. There is a difference.
Maybe the sun shines out your arse and A-net has decided to give you no difference between mass killing and individual killing, I don't know, but for me there is a difference.
You can prove it all you like, I will still hold my ground.


~A Leprechaun~

buckscrib

buckscrib

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jan 2006

COL

I just kill for the sport of it.

pg

R.Shayne

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Oct 2007

Wiki can be edited by anyone so the part about the info on the wiki is not valid.

I have been looking through the developers update and I am unable to find anything that says, "Killing everything at one time no longer affects what drops". Is there a link that someone can provide that a developer posted stating that this anti-farming code (specifically this anti-farming code) was completely removed from the game.

The only developer statement I can find is the one concerning re-entry into an area no longer affecting drops.

thebullion24k

thebullion24k

Academy Page

Join Date: Jan 2007

Chicago

Nagas With Attitude [nWa]

A/Rt

Quote:
Originally Posted by A Leprechaun
Maybe the sun shines out your arse and A-net has decided to give you no difference between mass killing and individual killing, I don't know, but for me there is a difference.
You can prove it all you like, I will still hold my ground.


~A Leprechaun~ Funny...

So I guess you're also saying drops are determined by luck regardless of killing speed.

A Leprechaun

A Leprechaun

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Feb 2006

W/

Quote:
Originally Posted by thebullion24k
Funny...

So I guess you're also saying drops are determined by luck regardless of killing speed. Of course there is a luck aspect but the difference in drops between mass killing and individual killing is much greater than that.

~A Leprechaun~

Drunken Bulldog

Drunken Bulldog

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Aug 2007

Drunken Legion [DL]

R/Me

Loot scaling was taken out of the code...confirmed by Gaile Grey. And wiki is full of lies...I can edit that page to say loot scaling is moot. The question is one of psycology, not loot scaling. If you don't get the drop, you remember the instance and complain. It's a glass half empty world for you my friend.

isamu kurosawa

isamu kurosawa

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Nov 2005

United Kingdom

Me/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Drunken Bulldog
Loot scaling was taken out of the code...confirmed by Gaile Grey. And wiki is full of lies...I can edit that page to say loot scaling is moot. The question is one of psycology, not loot scaling. If you don't get the drop, you remember the instance and complain. It's a glass half empty world for you my friend. The anti-farming code was removed when loot scalling was added but loot scalling itself has not been removed from the game.