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Spiritz
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Also recall heros if in radar gets drops so u may be getting less drops at times than pure solo also they get a share of cash - so ur 1k cash run turns into 500g cash run
you r right, but i dont care of this i just want to use heroes to make it "easier & faster"
Nestaron
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where can i train ? there is always a nightmare who gets me... . I can use spellbeaker or an interrupt, i dont manage well Sometime 2 nightmares pops.. i interrupt one but still die. i can farm basic place But where can i train for UW without spend 1k / try I also like tryihng myself builds, but ...too expensive if we need to be 2 ... it isnt solo anymore you r right, but i dont care of this i just want to use heroes to make it "easier & faster" It isn't solo if you use Heros either.. They still get drops... They still take a shard of gold coins. In all honesty your better just going with an SS necro. ccruzp
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where can i train ? there is always a nightmare who gets me... . I can use spellbeaker or an interrupt, i dont manage well Sometime 2 nightmares pops.. i interrupt one but still die. i can farm basic place But where can i train for UW without spend 1k / try I also like tryihng myself builds, but ...too expensive nightmares have fixed possible spawn points , just learn then and you can cast SB then run so tehy pop up. if you want to farm w/ heros ild do 600/smite. Spiritz
Nitemares do have set spawn points but others will agree there is a slight chance or non spawn or they spawn elsewhere.
At start of uw usually theres 1 at top of left steps and one just to side of steps leading to wraith - but often ive seen 2 at top left, 1 left and none right and 2 up at other end. A good way to learn possible spawn points is 600/smite a few runs - and yes it does pay to be over cautious as when i do uw and the first chamber i count nitemares and if we only see 1 or 2 we try and find the others , better to find now that get chased or be passing thru and one pops up.
mugen
Well, i ve tryed something; and it works
Here the build Player 55 HP [build=OwUVESROGXAZKiQuUDYXcJQEICIIAA] --> last skill useless here, it was a test - like putting illisionary weap on a hero, but i dont like it) Hero monks (all 14 prot to get -3 mana / hits - dived by 3 hero = -1 mana per heroes / hit....) [build=OwAU0WX8UoGHUkxTf7UmpUeA] [build=OwIU4knCRMLH0/EP6T5jcpk8AA] [build=OwIU4knCRMHHMe6D5bXmpUeA] you need life bond => with balta aura to regen mana NB : heroes can each maintain more enchants if needed (holy veil etc.) Ex : HOW TO RUN : - all heroes enchants on you (including one balta aura) - each heroes balta aura on himself (yes, it means a hero maintains 2 balta aura) - flag heroes out of battle (let them manage themself the spirits) - use anti interrupt stance - spellbreak where you know nightmare pops + kill them fast with ebon assa OR empathy OR pain inverter - ECHO + pain inverter vs axxte (it works, even with 55hp ! 80 dmgs) - ECHO + empathy vs Coldfire Night - ECHO + visage vs the rest (the 0mana / spirits kill them) - assa / empat to help killing faster - heroes never have any energy pb WHAT CAN KILL YOU : - nightmare without spellbreaker - being interrupted trying to kill the nightmare - AoE ... enemmies running away and reach your heroes - high degen zone Well i know it s not good since -you have less chance to get items since its not solo run -still can't do all zone - not faster at all But still, its easier for me - you have nothing to do you cant die / be uinterrupted / no skill timing etc. Farming for dummies  If you die you can't res cause of -50 hp ... First i had [build=OwUVESROGXAZKiQuUDYXcJQEICIkAA] [build=OwAU0WX8UoGHUkxTfMUmpUeA] so = infinite try / res ... before skill change lol ... they nerfed my secret weapon ^^ i put vengeance to try to remove the cest from hand before a normal res I think it as really has potential to be improved  3 * bonder + 55hp = "immortal" 0 micro-management, put enchants and dot... every class can be main and have 8 attack skills depending on what zone you aim (high degen / anti enchant etc.) + you have 5% reduce instead of the 10% from prot spirit, so even the Derviches can have a chance^
Mr.Kotte
Looks pretty solid, but yeew at all enchantments. :P
boarderx
skills like prot bond and life bond can only go on you once, so if one hero puts those on you the next hero that does that just erased the 1st heros enchts
plus heros steal ur ectos, you can 600 smite with a hero and in HM too, that would be ur best bet if you want to bring a hero prot bond is nice be it can never hold up to a larger aggro, you need to pick off foes in small groups or else energy will be gone quick interesting concpet though btw, if on wrong on any of this feel free to correct me but imo 600/smite would be right up ur ally
mugen
well there is 3* prot bond, so mana lost is split (look at wiki : The energy loss can be split between multiple people maintaining the same enchantment on one character. Two players with 8 Protection Prayers will each lose -2 energy per hit. Three players at 13 Protection Prayers will each only lose -1 energy per hit)
prot bond is nice be it can never hold up to a larger aggro
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plus heros steal ur ectos, you can 600 smite with a hero and in HM too, that would be ur best bet if you want to bring a hero
yeah, certainly, but i suck at it i easily lost 40 K tries and still suck at it with infinite protbond and 0 skills to use to maintain protection, its easier
legacyofkain85
prot bond is quite dead,leave it be .use prot spirit ,there is a reason people run with 600/smite insted of 55 +3 heroes dont u agree?And tbh prot bond doesnt even compare to what spirit bond was ,ps+spirit bond=tank any number of foes(before the nerf ofc)
boarderx
well if prot bond does work like that you still have a large amount of heros stealing your loot unforunately, it will be hard to make good money from that but if it works for you im not gonna bash it.
my opinion has always been if your gonna farm try not to take more then 1 hero since they are loot stealers. good luck!
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