Ecto thought

I was talking with friends and I had this random idea which sounded reasonable. Survivor title is one thing people dont have that want to have on some of their chars. I sure didnt know about it till my main character went through 2 campaigns and realised I could never have it.

Well with ectos being crazy and all I could imagine:

Balthazar having some sort of quest for us some sort of Purification Quest. or Glory of Balthazar quest what have you that when compelted gives you some exp gold, some item or what not, but most importantly a gold sink. Provide 100 ectoplasm at the end of the quest which spawns this NPC and he will whatever you want to make it sound for guild wars sake. Purify you with the might of balthazar and you will be 'cleansed' starting back at 0 deaths in which you can then proceed to get your title!

I mean basically gw has grown into titles recently and with the ecto situation recently what better gold sink then a quest to deposit an outragous amount of ectos away to get a survivor on a character that you want? I can imagine it being benefical for the most part and its just a title so its one of those sure itw ont effect me unless im title whoring type of thing. And it would be a new sink for ectos.

What do you think? the ecto price for clearing your deaths and be raised or wahtever, but the concept is what I want you to think about

Actually not that bad imo, would raise ecto prices again and being someone who's main char was created before titles existed I'd love to be able to get survivor on him as 30th title at the moment will be a huge pain to get (max kurz or treasure are only 2 viable options atm for me) I'd be willing to pay that to get survivor for him.

Why is it so hard to not ge,t Anet isn't really worried bout the game right now they will not be adding new stuff, as there focus right now is GW2 do to the competition from WoW's third Campaign, Conan, and with D3 on its way they have to be on the ball if they wanna continue to sell games.

And for justice on the mass Perma Sins they attempted to nerf them and the plains and didn't really get to far with in hours of the nerf a new build emerged on the scene making ecto farming just as viable as before. As for the nerf to SF that was to make the people hording ectos in stack to stop there QQing becuz there stack of ectos was no longer worth the 1 million gold per stack it was before SF perma plain runs. GW is dead get your 30 titles and wait to GW2 if your buying it, if not move on to a different game.

and BTW u can pay to get max kurzick so why not just do that 50-100g per run

Sure Survivor would be nice but all I would need to do is turn in 100 ectos and I have the title. Survivor is already pretty buyable (I don't even think thats a word but still) and doesn't need to be even more buyable.

no quest will be hard enough to cleance my characters 4000 deaths each.

noone cares about ecto anyway, only people that think the fow armor give skills.

How about the people who want a stable, valuable, commodity to use in trades above 100k? Obsidian is just one factor in the ecto market.

signed just for the thought of being able to get survivor on a char made before the title that we didn't know we were getting at the time

new to game or havent just seen that zkeys are moe stable and worth the double?

until someone come up with new farmbots for baltz factions.
They will be far more stabil than ectos ever been, And its not like u CANT use ectos for trades over 100k. You just need more of them, u got place for 1750 ecto in there, whats the problem?

two words, Black Dye. Those are much more stable and now valuable too. AND you can sell to a trader just like ectos. It's the perfect replacement (until people sell their 50 million stacks of ectos and black dyes go down in price to 100g, but hey, we also got white dye for half the price of black*currently*).

@OP: good intent, could use some work (had a little trouble understanding the jest of what you were saying but I get the idea), although I think that Survivor is not the correct source for an ecto sink. Possible ecto sink, yes, but correct, I don't know.

For characters (mains) Made in 2005, this'd be awesome and I for one would love survivor on my main D:

With the new HoM changes, I don't think Survivor on your main char will be necessary <_<

Worth double only because of recent drop (since SF was split into PvE or PvP) in ecto, and because of introduction of Z-key title. If ectos hadn't been screwed over then they would have been stable at about 5k much longer than Z-Keys. Although I guess my 38-month old account isn't old enough for you?

No shit sherlock. Consider: before price drop player Bob has 300k and play Sam has 60 ectos. After drop Sam still has 60 ectos but Bob can buy 85 ectos.

OMG WOW I hadn't thought of that. Now all I have to do is trade my 600 ectos for Black Dye and get whole Guild Wars community to adopt black dye too. /sarcasm

You two people think your so original and superior. The idea of a replacement to ectos as an over 100k commodity isn't new - I remember reading a thread ages ago (pre Z-key days) suggesting lockpicks instead. It had (mainly) widespread support but has it happened? No.

Heres one in mid May suggesting Z-Keys.
http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/s...ks+%2B+ ectos

That's the odd thing about Ecto. Right now it's ~3.5k each, but if all the ecto folks are hanging onto were traded back to the trader, the average price would probably be closer to ~2k. If the trading commodity beyond 100k was changed, that's when we'd really see the price of Ecto drop.

Why don't they just change the title so that your characters can die but still get the title. As long as you gain X amount of exp without dying you get the title, it resets every time you die.
So say I had 1000 deaths (or whatever) so long as I gained 1,337,500 more exp and my death count was still at 1000 I would get legendary survivor.

~A Leprechaun~

I like the idea of being able to get survivor on a character that had died before the introduction of the title, but not this way. Just how many more titles do you want to be able to ebay?

More like 100 gold lol

Agreed.

For the same reason grinding for benefits is bad.

I would be happy to obtain the ability to earn Survivor on my Ranger because I was uninformed about it when the title was created. But why should I have to pay to get it?

I, aswell as alot of other players would'nt want to farm 100 ectos just to be able to get this title. Simple as.

You shouldn't have to farm just for titles either.

Survivor title runs I've seen on some forums are cheaper than the total cost of 100 Ectos, even if the Ectos are 3.7k.

I see alot of responses after posting this lol.

Well my first thought for the suggestion is that since it's a title the only people who would care about it are the people who are trying to max out all the titles. It would not have an effect on players who do not grind titles.

It is just a gold sink for Globs of Ectoplasm, as title runs can be cheaper and easily done then as one of you already said, does it really matter that the ectoplasm gold sink is expensive then? it's purpose is just a gold sink for ectoplasm.

I also liked the suggestion one person had about having the exampled certain deaths and reaching the experience without dying from that amount of time.

And yes survivor on your main character wouldnt have to be necessary, but what if you felt like maxing out that character as much as possible? Then you'd be more willing to do so.

I hope i stated my thoughts clearly and I hope I dont get flamed too much, but thanks for at least reading all.

Because it still takes some 250 hours of being run Got r7 atm for Imbagon and it takes forever.

/notsigned, as this would make it possible to have ldoa and survivor on the same toon, which can't happen. sorry, I'd love to get it on mine as well but no way.

I'd like to see a way to get ectos to the 10K mark where they belong (heck, every idiot runs in FoW nowadays), but this is not the way to do so. Old chars are just not viable for surv/LdoA titles, so if you really want em, make a new char. Besides, it'd mean that we can once again get anything if we grind/ebay long enough, and the idea of GW that i fell for was 'skill, not grinding'. They're really dropping that lately, and i see no reason to encourage em to do so.
/notsigned

The funny thing is that you think I was being original. I knew I wasn't. If I was voicing my truest opinions I'd say stop complaining, ANet doesn't care about the Ecto prices, they only nerfed the UW run to get people like you to shut up.

The reason why people don't change the item to trade is because not enough people care. If people were to start selling their ectos and buy Black Dyes, or even White Dyes, those prices will drop. We can't have a singular item to invest in which is what people don't seem to get. Instead of just investing in ectos, invest in ALL ideas for 100k+ trade items (Ecto, Black Dyes, White Dye, zkeys, Celestial Sigils, but probably not lockpicks)

And that's what all those that don't farm UW on a sin want. I don't care either way but switching the object for 100k+ trades is probably best for everyone. People who want FoW for whatever reason can then get it easier, those who want a high priced item for trades can get that, those who want to hoard their ectos can still hoard their ectos until they realize doing so won't matter so they trade in for whatever is the "biggest thing" at the moment.

If people really want a stable economy, then they need to invest in more then just Ectos. Invest in multiple items, even amber and other items that are now junk. If everyone invests only in ectos, of course they will drop, because so many people buy/farm them. It's a wonder why people don't get this, they complain that the economy is screwed up the arse but they only make things worse by only investing in Ectos. It's not like the prices of ectos will automatically boom up, even with a gold sink.

If people only rely on ecto prices going up to "fix the economy" (which isn't enough) then once a few new ecto sinks are put in, the prices won't rise until people buy the ectos from the traders, not the players. Want ectos to go up? Hack a rich person's account, sell all his ectos, then buy just as many, or more. If everyone were to sell a majority of their ectos then buy them back, whether the same amount of ectos or use the same amount of gold, then the prices will go back up. People will lose their money but they get what they want, high priced ectos.

Nothing will happen by just standing around and complaining, or by farming ectos. Things will only get worse. If you people really want things to change, sell your ectos and buy other things like White/Black Dye and Celestial Sigils. Until then, stop complaining PLEASE.

/notsigned
Why should people have to pay for a chance to obtain a title they could never achieve? It is a good idea that has been mentioned before but nobody is going to pay for it.

In my opinion, this just wouldn't work. Yes, we do need an ecto sink, but another "WTB MAX TITLE" isn't the best way to go about it.

/notsign

/notsigned

Ectos supply needs to be reduce (ie nerf [shadow form]). Last we need is another pointless title that you can buy.

this seems like a good idea, but begs the question...

would we also be able to get a chance at other titles we already lost out on? say, LDOA?