Ursan Olafstead Botters

Babael

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jul 2005

White Hawk Knights

N/R

This seems to be happening quite abit.

Somebody forms a group for Ursan Farming.
Says "shucks my connection is acting up - afk", straight after grabbing norn hunting.
Then doesn't return, leaving the group to farm points for him while hes afk.

To me, this is botting. The same as you would use a program, you're using a group to do the exact same job while you're afk.

I've reported people as botting for doing this. My question is, hopefully im correct in my terminology of what can be considered botting and I won't be treated as though im abusing the report system?

Tyla

Emo Goth Italics

Join Date: Sep 2006

Botting is using a bot to commence the opperation.

If you ask me it's more of a griefing matter, but I guess it can be qualified as botting if it's the same thing happening alot.

Onyx Blindbow

Onyx Blindbow

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Nov 2007

Here & There

Blades of Burning Shadows - GoDT

N/

if he does that at the start then just all map back to town and leave the clown where he is

Ate of DK

Ate of DK

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Oct 2005

Netherlands

None but Fools [nuts]

The OP is talking about leeching, not botting.

Miska Bow

Miska Bow

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jan 2008

somewhere, Grinding some l33t titles

Order of the Divine WoodChuck

R/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Onyx Blindbow
if he does that at the start then just all map back to town and leave the clown where he is
Tread winner !!!

Babael

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jul 2005

White Hawk Knights

N/R

That's the problem, it is leeching, but there is no option in pve for reports of leeching.

Kusandaa

Kusandaa

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jul 2006

N/Mo

Quote:
Originally Posted by Onyx Blindbow
if he does that at the start then just all map back to town and leave the clown where he is
Don't think I'd even have thought of that x].

But yeah, it's not botting - botting means that he'd use a bot to do his job.

If he uses a group, it's leeching.

(Although with the brains some of the ursans have, I'm dead sure a bot would do a better job - couldn't help that comment >_>;;; ).

N1ghtstalker

N1ghtstalker

Forge Runner

Join Date: Dec 2007

E/

wtb pve leech report function

Big_Iron

Big_Iron

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Dec 2005

The Edge

Tormented Weapons [emo]

Question's been answered. It's leeching, not botting. Move to close.

Lykan

Lykan

Forge Runner

Join Date: May 2005

StP

R/

If it happens right at the start then why continue? If they complain about connection or hang back just after the blessing its pretty obvious what to do.

Leave and start over.

Pleikki

Pleikki

WTB q8 15^50 Weapons!

Join Date: Nov 2006

???oo ???ugs ???lan [?????????]

For that you report for Leeeching not botting

Babael

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jul 2005

White Hawk Knights

N/R

You can't report for leeching, the leechers tactic seems to be stop half way through the run and go afk. That way you're pretty much forced to contine unless your group dies and they force you to quit instead.

Today alone its happend 3x.

Orange Milk

Orange Milk

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Mar 2006

Ganking, USA

Retired

R/

And more evidence presents it's self in my case against never ever PUGing, I should be able to get the indictment now.

cyvil

Academy Page

Join Date: Jan 2007

R/Mo

You can also drag a group to him, and let him die.

FoxBat

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Apr 2006

Amazon Basin [AB]

Mo/Me

That may stop his points, but you're still down a bear's worth of damage.

Ate of DK

Ate of DK

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Oct 2005

Netherlands

None but Fools [nuts]

Quote:
Originally Posted by cyvil
You can also drag a group to him, and let him die.
You still get reputation points when you're dead. As far as I know of.

Free Runner

Free Runner

Forge Runner

Join Date: Oct 2005

GW2G

Knights Of The Sacred Light [KSL]

Quote:
Originally Posted by Ate of DK
You still get reputation points when you're dead. As far as I know of.
I dont think you get the Hunting Bonus's though.

Abedeus

Abedeus

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Jan 2007

Niflheim

R/

Or just everyone leaves the team and you group again without the leecher?

Or... a guild.

Nemo the Capitalist

Nemo the Capitalist

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Aug 2006

Trust me you dont want to know my Chasms of Despair

Zaishen Brotherhood

N/Me

if he wqas any kind of actor hed pretend to follow grp.

hit top guy in party space bar etc

folow like that and surf net
not hard

FrAnt1c??

FrAnt1c??

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jan 2007

Belgium

Legion Of Sacred Light [LSL]

Mo/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Onyx Blindbow
if he does that at the start then just all map back to town and leave the clown where he is
Pull a group towards him and let him die, that way he doesnt get credit for the kills, I do the same thing with people leeching in FoW runs, in this way they dont get the end chest reward for which he did nothing to obtain.

IslandHermet

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Aug 2007

make 3 good hero bars grab 4 hench and c+space to max norn.

problem solved.

going with a pug group takes longer and you have leavers/leechers

aapo

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Apr 2006

Quote:
Originally Posted by N1ghtstalker
wtb pve leech report function
- Yeah! We already have report function for displeasing name. We should get report functions for ugly hairstyle, bit-too-long-for-answering-phone-afk, general asshattery, clueless noobness, not-following-teamness.

Zahr Dalsk

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Aug 2007

Canada

Winning Gw PvE through the G15's macro system:

\/ C
0.100 sec delay
/\ C
0.100 sec delay
\/ Space
0.100 sec delay
/\ Space
0.100 sec delay

Repeat on toggle, bound to G18. Requires only passive attention to deal with occasional pathing issues. And of course every now and then picking up loot, which incidentally can be done with:

Targeting - Item Nearest as ;

\/ ;
0.100 sec delay
/\ ;
0.100 sec delay
\/ Space
0.100 sec delay
/\ Space
0.100 sec delay

Repeat on toggle, bound to G17.

Thus an incredibly simple macro can do most of Guild Wars given a half-decent hero+hench team and some minor player input for things like talking to NPCs, merching, ID, etc.

Best of all, it lets you 'leech' off of Ursan teams and still help, since C+Space is pretty much all Ursan is.

Toss in a macro to hit the keys for Ursan skills with appropriate delays and you're all set This can also be used to imitate a wammo, but toss in a few macros for badly-written insults as well.

This is not botting because it does require a human to attend; it just minimizes the amount of attention you need to spend on Gw PvE and lowers your input to NPC interaction, IDing items, posting on forums, etc.

lol pve

bigtime102

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Dec 2007

What did you expect from pugs? Would you in RL ask random people on the street to help you move your stuff into a new place and then be surprised that something got stolen? Why would you expect anything differnt from the anonymous internet public you should expect worse.

MagicWarrior

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jan 2007

Just another reason why I prefer to solo hench/hero... how I miss the friends I used to group with that have all left for other games.