Your take on Alcohol and minors in GW

Parents need to be responsible to know what their kids are doing.

I seriously lol'd irl at that.

Alcohol in-game or not, I'd still be drunk.

Yeah, technically gw is not for minors, every kid knows about booze and I don't think having some game involving booze is going to make some kid go out and drink. But that gets into the whole violent games don't make people violent etc. and how much of their behavior is preexisting and they're just using the game as an outlet etc etc.

For all the things happening that are supposedly "influenced by video games", I have this to say:

To be influenced by a video game that much, you probably have to be pretty messed up to begin with and are probably going to go through with that action with or without it being in a video game.

I've been playing for 3 years, I'm almost 18, and I have never touched any alcohol (outside of Communion at church), and I really have no desire to, and I have about 500 minutes of Drunkard on my Ranger.

Why is there a thread about alcohol in a video game? Why not make a thread about killing people with swords and bows and whatever? And performing hexes and enchantments?

its fake... if they were actually drinking, i could understand... but its a game, they should know the difference between right and wrong. so, who cares?

As professional beer brewer, I wholeheartedly endorse this. Go nuts, alcohol is fun.

Ignoring the whole 'kids can't tell games from reality' garbage, minimizing a child's exposure to alcohol and turning it into an anathema to be violated is a great way to turn your teenagers into binge drinkers. Same goes for anything. If you big it up and ban it, they'll rebel. You treat them like an adult and they'll become one. 12+ is nothing, over here in the UK you can give alcohol to 5 year olds at home. I used to be administered nightcaps when I couldn't sleep and it never did me any harm. *hic*

alcohol abuse punishes itself anyway.

So even if kids do get nuts on alcohol, the horrible hangovers will quickly teach them to drink responsibly. I agree with bamm on this one : overprotecting kids does NOTHING, except push them in that exact direction once they do find out about it as rebelious teenagers.

My parents never protected me from alcohol, they never freaked out when i had a beer. Right now I'm 23, and a seasoned drinker (gogo university). However, a responsible seasoned drinker. I can say no to alcohol when i want (and do so regularly) even under heavy peer preasure (hey, it's not fun to be sober when everyone else is pissdrunk). I never drunk beer at home, ... , only during parties or at a pub with friends.

Kinds will turn out just fine if they get raised properly, games or no games. Stop worrying.

make the game 21yr min age to play
prob solved

The game is rated "T" for teen. That rating states the alcohol.

If a parent buys a game for their teen with alcohol in it. They already decided. If the child bought the game then his parents need to be parents.

QFT

12 chars.....

The game is rated T for teen BECAUSE of the use of alcohol in the game.
On the box, its rated T for suggestive themes, violence, and use of alcohol.

If you have a problem with the game being marketed for 12+, complain to the ESRB who rated the game Teen, not at A.net.

However thats what inspires them to drink.

I would say the below posted article says alot what impact can games have on real life.

http://www.ripten.com/2007/12/20/two...-kombat-moves/

- Ganni

In a game where people seek to kill each other over minor differences, I think the alcohol is just nitpicking.

Using video games as a scapegoat doesnt make it true.
Blame the game! then i dont need to take as much responsibility. silly.

Hmm maybe u should reread the article... the last part of it... ill link it...
"There is no defense for this kind of crime. The pure malice you need in order to kill a 7 year old girl that brutally does not come, nor is there any evidence it comes from, video games. The fact video games are being dragged into this horrendous debacle is indicative of the current state of affairs and only reinforces the publics misconceived perception regarding the impact of videogame violence"
so you see... don't blame video games

Yea. They should also remove the weapons as well. It encourages kids that's its okay to slash someone with a sword because they'll just get ressurected anyway.

Honestly, does anyone ever remember thinking "Wow that guy is drinking alcohol in a game, and he's cool. I must drink alcohol." Kids don't drink because of video games. Kids drink because other kids drink.

99.99% of kids can easily figure out the difference between video games and reality. That 0.01% are already cracked to begin with so it is not the video games that are the bad influence. Kids are more influenced by their environment: parents, friends, teachers, etc.

Here is a somewhat realistic situation:

Kid 1: Hey, my parents are gone for the weekend, want to come over. They've left beer in the fridge.
Kid 2: Sure

Now this is unrealistic:

Kid 1: Hey man, I was playing Guild Wars and I'm going for the drunkard title. Drinking seems like a lot of fun. Want to try it some time?
Kid 2: Ok.... Whats Guild Wars?

Get my point? I'm actually going for the drunkard title myself (3300 min currently) because I think it's the funniest title ever, but I never had a sip of alcohol and I don't really plan on drinking anytime soon.

I know you're joking, but how would they go about enforcing that? Haha

I agree less booze more topless girls!!! ZOMG!