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manitoba1073

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09 Jul 2008 at 09:03 - 1

Brianna

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09 Jul 2008 at 10:37 - 2

This one looks decent to me, I was like ''O.o'' at corsair making power supplies, but it does look good. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16817139006

It has a single 12v rail with 60~amps on it, 750watts, > 80%~ efficiency, and a nice big fan with a huge vent to boot. It looks nice not to mention, cables are all wrapped up for tidiness.

I was looking at this too:http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16817703009 83%~ efficiency, single 12v rail with 60 amps, 750 watts.

I don't know what your budget is, but I wouldn't be skimping on the power supply, it is worth it to pay good money for one. Just to add, a 500watt with like 36 amps total could run that system fine I think, but aiming for more power wouldn't hurt, because 1) future upgrades, and 2) it gives your computer more breathing room if it gets power hungry enough.

Tamuril elansar

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09 Jul 2008 at 10:50 - 3

a simple 500watt psu would be more than enough for that system.

i suggest getting a corsair one or a coolermaster one, both very nice brands with high quality PSU's.

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09 Jul 2008 at 11:04 - 4

True Quality right here:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16817371015

zamial

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09 Jul 2008 at 12:15 - 5

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16817814015

modular cabling > not

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09 Jul 2008 at 12:24 - 6

Quote:

Originally Posted by zamial

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16817814015

modular cabling > not

Sure, if you want to spend too much on useless stuff. sure.

Tamuril elansar

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09 Jul 2008 at 13:48 - 7

if you want modular cabling go for the coolermaster realpower M520/620, they own.

moriz

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09 Jul 2008 at 13:50 - 8

i'm pretty sure this system will run happily on a 400W PSU, so you really don't need anything too powerful.

unless of course, you're looking at a new graphics card down the line.

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09 Jul 2008 at 15:57 - 9

Quote:

Originally Posted by deluxe

Sure, if you want to spend too much on useless stuff. sure.

Modular cabling is far from usless. It allows for better wire managment and since you only hook up what you need, you dont have a mess of wires(It looks neater as well). This will result in better airflow, which reduces heat, which keeps your compents working longer. I have used both modular and non-modular PSUs in builds. After going to modular It becomes painfully obvious that you do not want to go back to non-modular.

This is a good power supply. Cheap out on a PSU is silly. Cheap PSU's fail faster and can start class A electrical fires. Also, I suggested a 700watt for future upgrades. In my experience it is better to have some power left over than to pin the PSU constantly.

Brianna

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09 Jul 2008 at 19:15 - 10

I don't even bother with modular, I just hide my cables. I watched a video on someone hiding their PSU cables behind the mobo tray on my case (Lian Li PC-7B) and I realized there's no need for modular in this instance. Just be innovative.

I'm not saying that modular doesn't help, and it is a nice thing to have no doubt, less wires to hide and all, but it is not a necessity. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=poXyU-BwNbk try it, you can do this on basically any case, while not all are the same, there's always a way.

Lord Sojar

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09 Jul 2008 at 23:35 - 11

You couldn't pay me to own an Antec power supply, EVER AGAIN. Seriously, unless you want it to blow up and destroy your entire PC, don't buy an Antec.

Tagan, Corsair, Coolermaster, Thermaltake (albeit, a bit pricey sometimes), Enermax (only their really high end stuff), and the best is Silverstone (but you will pay for that)

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10 Jul 2008 at 00:01 - 12

With reference to the modular PSU comments, I'm a bit torn. Modulars are great for cable management and I was looking at them as a potential future upgrade. A couple of things put me off: I'm already running a (non-modular) 850W Coolermaster and, more importantly, I'm running two 8800GTXs, both of which need two auxiliary power connections. If I ran a modular, it would need every available cable connected anyway, thus making the modularity pointless.

Damn, they're so nice and glowy too :/

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10 Jul 2008 at 03:15 - 13

I'd go with an Ultra 500W, you really can't go wrong, no matter which one you pick at the 500W, I've got the most basic 500W and am running an 8800GT and AMD Athlonx2 6400+.

manitoba1073

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10 Jul 2008 at 05:12 - 14

Heres the thing its not being upgraded any farther than what its got. No real need to do that, its about the end of upgradablitly for that Mobo to a degree.
so I was think maybe these might work

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16817152035
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16817226001
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16817152037
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16817709015
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16817171014
http://www.tigerdirect.com/applicati...1&Sku=B52-3004
http://www.tigerdirect.com/applicati...557&CatId=1483

So keep the ideas comming

Dark Kal

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10 Jul 2008 at 06:03 - 15

I'll say it again since you don't seem to listen to other people. You do not need a power supply higher than 400/500 Watt for your current system. All you are doing by buying a 600/700 Watt PSU is wasting money and power. Just make sure you buy a decent brand as suggested by Rahja above (although I've had no problems with Antec's PSUs).

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10 Jul 2008 at 06:22 - 16

http://www.tigerdirect.com/applicati...?EdpNo=2932372 for a Tt - only 2 12V rails. The OCZ from Tiger has 4, if that's important to you. Not sure how OCZ's PSUs rate - they're not on Rahja's list.

Incidentally, and slightly thread-derailing - do all these companies like OCZ and Corsair more known for other things (memory, in this case) - sell re-badged PSUs, or are they really their own products? If they are re-badges, what are they?

I think we should be told ^^

Brianna

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10 Jul 2008 at 06:25 - 17

Quote:

Originally Posted by Snograt

http://www.tigerdirect.com/applicati...?EdpNo=2932372 for a Tt - only 2 12V rails.

I'd say buy this one, probably best suggestion as to the power/performance/price. It seems around what you were looking for judging by the prices of the other PSU's you suggested.

Two 12v rails @ 18 amps per, nice big fan and vent, 600 watts, >80%~ efficiency, perfect for your system, and the price seems right. Buy it now!

manitoba1073

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10 Jul 2008 at 06:53 - 18

Yea that should be fine. Thanxs Snog and Brianna

And Dark its not that I was ignoring them, I was just looking around.

Would that PS be able to handle a second 8600gt also though. Just a thought.

I have idea for another build comming soon all new though for that one.

might be 16 cores for that one. 4 quads. the fun with that.

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10 Jul 2008 at 07:48 - 19

http://www.tigerdirect.com/applicati...371&CatId=1079

i'd say go for this one, their is no need for a 600watt psu on that system.
i think that even a simple system like yours with 2 8600gt's in sli only needs a 400-500 watt psu.

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10 Jul 2008 at 08:54 - 20

Lookit this awesome doohicky - http://support.asus.com/PowerSupplyC...Language=en-us

I had to bite my tongue and run it in IE - I think my firefox and NoScript stops it working.

If that calculator is accurate, it's a great tool!

Oh, and Tam - that PSU has only 14 and 15A on the two 12V rails. The Tt I posted has 18, which is still a touch low. That BFG at least has 20A. I keep forgetting to take the Amperage into consideration, along with the Wattage.

therangereminem

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10 Jul 2008 at 09:12 - 21

do what id di buy a ded g card power supply i have a 450 ded to g card which can run 2 hd 3870's just fine, ther easy to install, but with you haveing to replace the old power supply i would only geta 350 for computer, and a 450 for g card cost about 200 dollars for both. it your lucky you can find it all for under 130 dollars

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10 Jul 2008 at 18:33 - 22

I think that says:

Quote:

Originally Posted by English translation

Do what I did - buy a dedicated graphics card power supply. I have a 450W dedicated to the graphics card which can run 2 hd 3870's just fine, they're easy to install, but with you having to replace the old power supply i would only get a 350W for the computer, and a 450W for the graphics card. Cost about $200 for both. If you're lucky you can find it all for under $130

Er, no?

(No mockery intended, Em, just almost impossible to read

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moriz

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10 Jul 2008 at 18:42 - 23

those "VGA boosters" are such a ripoff. i'd rather get a good quality PSU for ~$140 than put my trust in one of those things.

Lord Sojar

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10 Jul 2008 at 23:11 - 24

Manitoba, if you are going to buy a PSU, all that matters is the brand.

Coolermaster is the only respectable one out of that list you most recently posted. Sunbeam? LOL. Raidmax is you want a class A electrical fire.

If you are buying a PSU for a future build on the scale you are talking about, try 1000watt +.

For dual 8600GTs, you will need dual 12v rails at minimum. Splitting a single 12V would be bad. You need to make sure the Amperes per rail are at least 12-16 per 12v rail. That will ensure stability. It is all about ampere output and stability of voltage ratings. If your 3.3v goes down by even 10-20uVolts, you are screwed.

Admael

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11 Jul 2008 at 01:58 - 25

Ultra X3 800w.

EDIT: I just read Rahja's thread, and that's not entirely true! Antec, I trust them with everything, but I'd be damned if I'd use one of their power supplies, especially the ones with racing stripes on them (namely the 800w and 1000w variations).

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11 Jul 2008 at 02:45 - 26

1st of all check and see how much power you are actually using. Also if you are planning to upgrade your video card or add more drives, etc., then include that in factoring. Give yourself some headroom, but don't buy more than you need.
http://web.aanet.com.au/SnooP/psucalc.php

2nd Try to get a brand name or at least do research to find out if the company makes good stuff and if that particular unit is a decent power supply. Anandtech.com is a good site for general tech info. johnnyguru.com is a good site for power supply info.

3rd buy something on sale if possible. Frys, newegg, buy.com, etc. usually have a sale or 2 a month on a decent power supply. I looked and not many deals right now on power supplies, but these are the deal sites I use when I need something.

fatwallet.com
slickdeals.net
techbargains.com

manitoba1073

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11 Jul 2008 at 08:37 - 27

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rahja the Thief

Manitoba, if you are going to buy a PSU, all that matters is the brand.

Coolermaster is the only respectable one out of that list you most recently posted. Sunbeam? LOL. Raidmax is you want a class A electrical fire.

If you are buying a PSU for a future build on the scale you are talking about, try 1000watt +.

For dual 8600GTs, you will need dual 12v rails at minimum. Splitting a single 12V would be bad. You need to make sure the Amperes per rail are at least 12-16 per 12v rail. That will ensure stability. It is all about ampere output and stability of voltage ratings. If your 3.3v goes down by even 10-20uVolts, you are screwed.

So this one would be great then for running dual 8600gts?
http://www.tigerdirect.com/applicati...9&Sku=B52-3006

This one if I stayed with just a single one?
http://www.tigerdirect.com/applicati...0&Sku=T13-2013

The Amps and that is what throws me around.
Or I could even do these
http://www.tigerdirect.com/applicati...606&CatId=1520
http://www.tigerdirect.com/applicati...290&CatId=1520
http://www.tigerdirect.com/applicati...118&CatId=1846

Lord Sojar

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11 Jul 2008 at 17:05 - 28

Mani, again. Stick with the brands I mentioned please, or in 3 months or less, we will most likely have you posting one of the following threads:

Graphics issue!
PC Won't Boot!
PC BLEW UP!
WTF IS GOING ON HAX?!

etc etc. Brand is extremely important in the PC world. There are good brands, there are decent budget brands, and then there are the rest. The ones you posted fit into "the rest" category.

manitoba1073

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11 Jul 2008 at 17:35 - 29

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rahja the Thief

Mani, again. Stick with the brands I mentioned please, or in 3 months or less, we will most likely have you posting one of the following threads:

Graphics issue!
PC Won't Boot!
PC BLEW UP!
WTF IS GOING ON HAX?!

etc etc. Brand is extremely important in the PC world. There are good brands, there are decent budget brands, and then there are the rest. The ones you posted fit into "the rest" category.

Im talking about there amps and wattage on the 2 PS i posted. Those would be good then. right ?
BEsides I wouldnt be posting those threads as I would already know what would have happened.

Lourens

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11 Jul 2008 at 18:32 - 30

Im using a recom 600w power supply works great

manitoba1073

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18 Jul 2008 at 06:08 - 31

got me this one working good so far. Just got it running a little bit ago started up easily. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16817182032

i was more worried about the mobo and that being bad that getting a non brand PSU.

Got a939 mobo to fix my other one so now I can give my old beast to my nieces,