Should drunkard / sweet tooth / party animal be account based?

bhavv

bhavv

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Sep 2006

You know what to do

RavagerOfDreams

RavagerOfDreams

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Dec 2007

somewhere over the rainbow....

A/

no

twelvecharsofawesomeness

Lawrence Chang

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Apr 2007

United States

[SOHE]

W/

no but wisdom and treasure hunter should be

bhavv

bhavv

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Sep 2006

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There we go

Please consider trying to gain these titles on several characters of your own.

Kook~NBK~

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Mar 2005

A little chalet outside Drok's

Natural Born Killaz

No, they should not be account based. Edit (since more is wanted than sut a /notsigned): Even though I don't get into the RPG aspect of GW, I like to think of each of my characters as having different personalities and histories. Those titles just don't fit into their personas. My lady Ranger, who refuses to dance because she has to much self-respect to dance like a stripper, wouldn't like the appelation of "Incorrigable Ale Hound." Also, those titles are meant to be money sinks and only exist for that and to aid in reaching "GWAMM" title.

Edit: removed remark about other titles.

bhavv

bhavv

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Sep 2006

There is a seperate thread for treasure hunter and wisdom titles, you can discuss those titles on there.

RedStar

RedStar

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jul 2007

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E/

/signed

those titles need too much gold.

Kanyatta

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jun 2006

Guildless, pm me

R/Mo

Quote:
Originally Posted by RavagerOfDreams
no

twelvecharsofawesomeness
I'm pretty sure the reason polls were added was because of this.

Yeah, they should be. I'm pretty sure if my Monk uses party stuff all the time, my Ranger would be known around Guild Wars as a Party Animal by association.

I say yes, just because I'd rather not grind out a title and worry about which character I'm having a good time on.

Konig Des Todes

Konig Des Todes

Ooo, pretty flower

Join Date: Jan 2008

Citadel of the Decayed

The Archivists' Sanctum [Lore]

N/

First, to those who are just /signing or /notsigning, that is now against the rules :P

Second, where is the maybe option? I don't want eggs. (and I'm not sure for yes, although I'm mostly for that)...

MirkoTeran

MirkoTeran

Forge Runner

Join Date: Sep 2005

Slovenia

Scars Meadows [SMS]

Mo/

No. They are just vanity titles. Leave them at that.

cosyfiep

cosyfiep

are we there yet?

Join Date: Dec 2005

in a land far far away

guild? I am supposed to have a guild?

Rt/

I have to sit on the wall for this one.....those titles are really useless in game, while the other titles that have been mentioned do have a use (treasure and wisdom)....so eggs for sure (can make lots of cookies)

bhavv

bhavv

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Sep 2006

Eggs is the maybe / dont care / dont know option of course.

If you know for sure, select yes or no. Otherwise, enjoy some eggs

People that definately want or oppose the idea obviously wont pick the silly option, and leaving it as maybe is boring.

cellardweller

cellardweller

Likes naked dance offs

Join Date: Aug 2005

The Older Gamers [TOG]

Voted for eggs, they have no in game benefit so it doesn't which option is taken.

silavor

silavor

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Oct 2007

Canada

Keepers Of Twilight

No, vanity titles are just that; for vanity. What you're essentially asking for is that if your main has obsidian armor, all your characters from then on should automatically be able to -with the push of a button- get themselves their own obsidian armor. Yes, it's an extreme example, but it is NOT that far off from the truth.

Tender Wolf

Tender Wolf

Banned

Join Date: Jul 2007

All over Tyria, Cantha, & Elona

The Eternal Night Vanguard [TEN]

R/

Absolutely, it sucks having to spend a fortune on all the items and who wants to do that across multiple characters? And if you are on a different character and something drops, you have to transfer it to your other character. So the process goes storage, switch character, storage, eat, wait for it to kick in (if it's alcohol), then switch character again. Regardless this should definately be account-based.

obsidian ectoplasm

obsidian ectoplasm

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jan 2008

Quote:
Originally Posted by Lawrence Chang
no but wisdom and treasure hunter should be
agreed


laegmkae'g

Enix

Enix

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Mar 2005

I am in a transitional period.

GRE

Every title that isn't directly related to the storyline should be account based. (No for protector/cartographer, yes for grind titles and money wasters.)

/signed

ilipol

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Mar 2007

W/

/notsigned

let goldsinks be...oh and disconnect drink title from minutes like sweets and party.

Breakfast Mc Rit

Breakfast Mc Rit

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Apr 2008

[Sin]

Me/

I voted no because I'm against Sweet Tooth and Party Animal being account based. Drunkard, on the other hand, takes forever to get and going AFK on several characters to get it multiple times is beyond ridiculous.

Gill Halendt

Gill Halendt

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Mar 2008

Quote:
Originally Posted by Enix
Every title that isn't directly related to the storyline should be account based. (No for protector/cartographer, yes for grind titles and money wasters.)

/signed
Agreed. They also provide no advantage while playing (Lucky does, and it's account based). As someone pointed out, they're just "vanity titles", so I see no reason why people should not be able to show them with any character.

odly

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jan 2006

N/

voted yes although I'd rather have they didn't exist at all. I find them totally retarded.

Mind you I don't want Anet to remove them now, I don't want to spoil other players fun. After all it only bothers me by making that tittles screen so damn big.

But since they exist, yes they should should be account based.

Yawgmoth

Yawgmoth

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Apr 2005

The main point in making titles account-based is evening the chances and rewarding for players who prefer to play multiple characters than just one. Currently single char players are having major advantages thanks to mainly how some titles work.

These 3 titles are however by far the least important factor in this problem, but I still voted Yes, because that's would still be a straight improvement. No longer would certain consumables used just for their effect on characters other than the main title maker would feel 'wasted' and you could just fire some fireworks when you feel it, without first having to relog to your title char.

Charlotte the Harlot

Charlotte the Harlot

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jan 2006

Bay Area

none

R/

its really annoying feeling obligated not to use the ales for drunken master on a char thats not the one I hunt titles on. Not being able to mess around with party items or sweets is an annoyance as well, not like many people really go for this on more than one character anyway.

gremlin

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Oct 2006

GWAR

Me/Mo

How much gold a title takes
How much grind
How much of anything isn't the point.

If I eat sweets all day should my Brother get fat
If my sister drinks should the whole family get drunk

No

So what is your reasoning behind it

So its hard so what
So its expensive so what

Is anyone forcing you to do it more than once not so far as I can see.

There is a small justification whereby characters who gain titles that confer game benefits on one character would like to try that part of the game with other classes without going through all the grind again.

I sympathise with that problem and it would be nice to allow them to do that.
Perhaps a way will be found where some shortcut can be found to let them do that.
Otherwise a title is won by one character and any benefits shouldn't pass across the account to do so would remove any character differences you might as well allow everything to transfer.

/not signed as many times as it takes

zwei2stein

zwei2stein

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Jun 2006

Europe

The German Order [GER]

N/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Charlotte the Harlot
its really annoying feeling obligated not to use the ales for drunken master on a char thats not the one I hunt titles on. Not being able to mess around with party items or sweets is an annoyance as well, not like many people really go for this on more than one character anyway.
Amen.

Really, those titles take fun away from what is supposed to be fun diversion.

stale

stale

Academy Page

Join Date: Mar 2008

canada

Bong Wielding Maniacs

R/Mo

same sentiment as the last thread, but different reasons. they're titles you bought. no effort, no skill - no accomplishment. let them go account wide - title's are dickless anyway, so why not?

duckboy

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Mar 2007

Duckboy

E/Me

/signed and voted yes :P

reason: they count towards the KoaBD title so are usefull for me main character, but since my main will only want to show KoaBD, those titles will be left un-shown, which is a shame for the amount of money involved in getting them. I think my monk looks like a little drunkard, so should i be made to get drunkard twice, once for him and once for me main to add another point to KoaBD? no i say, once I have gotten it, shouldn't my account show this, not just the character i chose to drink it with, since all my characters are a reflection of what i have achieved?

Brimstonez

Brimstonez

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Nov 2006

Earth?

None

E/

Sweet Tooth/Party Animal...no, they should be player based.
Drunkard...yes, that one takes a long time to achieve, even with the warping.

BlackSephir

BlackSephir

Forge Runner

Join Date: Nov 2006

A/N

Bhav, all grind based titles should be acc based. I know it, you know it, AN probably doesn't. Same old, same old.

Quote:
Sweet Tooth/Party Animal...no, they should be player based.
Drunkard...yes, that one takes a long time to achieve, even with the warping.
Wow, where's logic in that? These titles are the same, gather enough items, use them. And yet only 1 gets to be acc based?
wat?

N1ghtstalker

N1ghtstalker

Forge Runner

Join Date: Dec 2007

E/

no
they're a dumb title to show you got money blablabla
stop making stupid threads ty
/notsigned

Phoenix Tears

Phoenix Tears

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Feb 2007

agreed, like many often times in countless other threads about this annoying topic, that needs finally to be fixed for the sake of the gameplay of this game, that GW becomes again m,ulti character friendly.

Making those titles toon based was one of anets biggest fails and a terrible game design catastrophe.
All those darn Grind Titles belong together with the HoM to be account based.

This has be countless of times discussed and whenever a poll has been made, the amount FOR THE CHANGE was incredible HIGHER, than all those ignorant NO QQ'ners.

How often must we show still anet, that this shit has to be changed, until they will finally recognize our frustation about this retarded grind and they willm ove their lazy asses to brign us our highly wished Change...

its really weird, that anet reacts like a 1000 times faster un such shit, like nerfing a silly FARMING SKILL, like SF, than to improve the god damn gameplay of the game by making those grind titles account based and with that action to follow their Joke-Philosophy of an "Anti-Grind Game" ...

doudou_steve

doudou_steve

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Dec 2007

Canada

Guildless QQ

W/

/signed

It's endless if you're not buying them, and buying titles = fail
So i prefer buying this title for all my account instead of 8 characters.

Shadowhaze

Shadowhaze

Nothing, tra la la?

Join Date: Oct 2007

Quote:
Originally Posted by zwei2stein
Amen.

Really, those titles take fun away from what is supposed to be fun diversion.
Agreed.
/sign

Shayne Hawke

Shayne Hawke

Departed from Tyria

Join Date: May 2007

Clan Dethryche [dth]

R/

/notsigned.

The titles have no functionality, and therefore don't need to be maxed or progressed to have an upper hand in anything, except in having maxed titles. If the aim is to have more r6 KoaBDs on your account, you should have to pay multiple times for these titles.

MagmaRed

MagmaRed

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Mar 2007

Our Crabs Know True [LOVE]

R/

Some of the items used to get these titles have benefits for using them. For instance, a Candy Cane will remove death penalty, and award points for Sweet Tooth. If you want to get the title currently, you would only use those items on the one character. This means you do not get the benefit of those consumables when using a different character. Skills now make use of Drunk [drunken master], so again, you would not use a consumable one certain characters.

Let us freely use multiple characters!

Kanyatta

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jun 2006

Guildless, pm me

R/Mo

Quote:
Originally Posted by ilipol
/notsigned

let goldsinks be...oh and disconnect drink title from minutes like sweets and party.
Drunkard/Sweet Tooth/Party Animal aren't gold sinks at all, so there goes your theory.

Gold sink is something that puts gold back into the game itself, this is just giving your gold to another player, which is not a gold sink.

Unless of course, if you buy all your dwarven ales from the Merchant, which I doubt, as you can get them from players just as easily for cheaper.

Diao Xiao

Diao Xiao

Bots killed teh PvP Star

Join Date: Nov 2006

Ascalon id1

Mo/

/signed

The way it is now, there is just no way you can get the full titles with festivals, no way. That means you have to buy the rest to max your title= complete waste imo. This is just not possible for people who don't play often enough to have big bulks of money.

The only way these titles work in this setup, is too make 'something' that can get you all the Alcohol/sweets or party items by doing quests, or something else. That way you can EARN your title, which gives much more respect I think.

So therefore, signed. Will only change my mind if they make the titles more reasonable to get.

ty.

FlibbyJibbits

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: May 2008

massachussetts

E/

As it is now, you can't really use any of the items on characters other than your main one, or else it sets you back a hundred gold or two or a run through snowmen. So, if for some reason I had to go back and forth through a city from a few different places for some reason, and wanted to move a bit faster, I wouldn't be able to without "losing out" on however many sweet tooth points the speed boost was worth, or if I wanted to shoot off a few fireworks in the guild hall after a win, again, I wouldn't be able to if not on the character who is already working on the track.
And theres not really any good reason not to, since they don't have any real benefit other than a little statue in the hall of monuments. And besides, a few titles that do have benefits already are account based, such as lucky, zaishen, kurz/lux, and the pvp titles.

Elder III

Elder III

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Jan 2007

Ohio

I Will Never Join Your Guild (NTY)

R/

no, No, NO for love of all that's good and holy.... NONONO

guess I'm in the minority, but i feel that making those titles account based cheapens them.... My Warrior would not think so much of being "Drunkard" if my other 10 chars could share the same title without having done one bit of work for it. /:

*also if it was account based the gold farmers in China might die of hunger < think about it and you'll figure it out*

bhavv

bhavv

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Sep 2006

Quote:
Originally Posted by Elder III

making those titles account based cheapens them.... My Warrior would not think so much of being "Drunkard" if my other 10 chars could share the same title without having done one bit of work for it. /:
So you would rather sit and drink for 10000 minutes on everyone of your characters to achieve this title on each one? Good for you.

How does it cheapen it anymore then getting the titles once? You still need to spend the same amount of money and time to max the title on an account as you have to on a single character.

Again, unless you are actually trying to individually max the title on every character you have (lol), making it account based would in no way cheapen the title.