make the armor unrelated to professions

Scary

Scary

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Sep 2007

Uhmmmm??

Limburgse Jagers [LJ]

N/

Wouldnt it be nice that we could use every armor there is and
not be bounded to one profession.

That Would give us a opportunity to mix and make a great diversity in what we
could wear.

Just an idea

Shuuda

Shuuda

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jul 2006

Guildless

Me/

Bad idea is bad.

Zorian Direspell

Zorian Direspell

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Apr 2006

That would probably be untenable in this game, but I suspect that something similar could happen in GW2.

sph0nz

sph0nz

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: May 2005

none.

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No.

Players wouldn't be able to distinguish professions in PvP gameplay as easily.

pumpkin pie

pumpkin pie

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Jul 2006

behind you

bumble bee

E/

armor no, character yes.

MisterB

MisterB

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Oct 2005

Planet Earth, Sol system, Milky Way galaxy

[ban]

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What pumpkin pie said. Also, Sardelac thread in Riverside.

Armor models are pretty much designed for quick recognition of class in PvP, but character models don't really have to be. I'm sure there's quite a few people who'd rather not have their male warrior look "fat," nor some of the female assassins look like they may have an eating disorder.

Zahr Dalsk

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Aug 2007

Canada

Quote:
Originally Posted by sph0nz
Players wouldn't be able to distinguish professions in PvP gameplay as easily.
Good, that'd help raise the amount of effort needed in PvP a bit. Increase the need for alertness and observation, y'know.

Speaking of appearances, I want to roll a PvE monk but the male character models are terrible, as are their faces.

makosi

makosi

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Mar 2006

"Pre-nerf" is incorrect. It's pre-buff.

Requirement Begins With R [notQ]

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Yeah 15k female Hydromancer would look great on a male warrior...

The idea couldn't be implemented without a complete overhaul of all armour art because a lot of armour sets are re-skins of the character's model (like female ele obsidian). Most models are very diverse.

N1ghtstalker

N1ghtstalker

Forge Runner

Join Date: Dec 2007

E/

yea lets put my female ele fow on my male necromancer
gonna look great
maybe my necro is gonna shrink a bit and the armor will be a bit torn cuz he's so big but yea
i love your idea
/sarcasm

Breakfast Mc Rit

Breakfast Mc Rit

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Apr 2008

[Sin]

Me/

Quote:
Originally Posted by sph0nz
No.

Players wouldn't be able to distinguish professions in PvP gameplay as easily.
What? I know what profession is coming at me the second I spot an enemy on my radar. Tab more.

OT: No.

Jebus

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jun 2006

Belgium

Legion of Sacred Light [LSL]

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Breakfast Mc Rit
What? I know what profession is coming at me the second I spot an enemy on my radar. Tab more.
can i has your leet skillz ?

Ate of DK

Ate of DK

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Oct 2005

Netherlands

None but Fools [nuts]

/Not Signed.

This would destroy an important aspect of the game.

Odinius

Odinius

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jun 2006

Netherlands

[OBEY]

N/R

Didn't Jeff Strain say something about this being implemented in GW2 in his German interview?

From here
"But we confirmed that Guild Wars 2 a "robust" craft system. In addition, equipment such as weapons and clothing, a much more important role and no longer bound to be classes-the war in Guild Wars 1 still completely different."

The translation is crap but you get the idea.

AscalonWarrior

AscalonWarrior

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Apr 2006

Kokkola, Finland

Mo/

Quote:
Originally Posted by makosi
Yeah 15k female Hydromancer would look great on a male warrior...
I was thinking more of my Elite Sunspear female armor on a male warrior

Kusandaa

Kusandaa

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jul 2006

N/Mo

Quote:
Originally Posted by AscalonWarrior
I was thinking more of my Elite Sunspear female armor on a male warrior
BRB, need to barf. (And now I'll be stuck with the image in my head all day long, thank you >_>;;;... x])

@ OP: Sorry but the idea doesn't work in this game, unlike in Diablo2 where you CAN EQUIP armor made for another "class" (ie. strenght-based weapons on another class than a barbarian, you CAN do it) if you meet the general requirement. I don't know how to explain it, but it just wouldn't work in GW.

aaje vhanli

aaje vhanli

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Dec 2006

Odinius is right (concerning GW2): "equipment such as weapons and clothing, a much more important role and no longer bound to be classes"

farmerfez

farmerfez

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Mar 2006

You should know

W/

Quote:
Originally Posted by aaje vhanli
Odinius is right (concerning GW2): "equipment such as weapons and clothing, a much more important role and no longer bound to be classes"
oh god it's turning into WoW lol

Shadowhaze

Shadowhaze

Nothing, tra la la?

Join Date: Oct 2007

Sacry huh?

It would be interesting if they made the armor that way. I donno. Maybe just add more armor instead. lol.

Longasc

Longasc

Forge Runner

Join Date: May 2005

Mesmer armor would so totally fit to male warriors, indeed.
Not really...

The usual way is that certain armor item drops look different on different classes. This would include that armor items "drop" in addition to being crafted for materials and gold.

Dallcingi

Dallcingi

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Nov 2006

USA

The Black Parades [死人死]

Mo/

That defeats armors purpose of being made for that single class...
you still got chaos gloves and bandanas etc though... everyone can use those

Damian979

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: May 2008

I like having class specific armor is so, say you are die hard kurzick you can have a kurz set on all your char's and not all have the same armor.

I wish they made the appearance of collector's pieces class specific too instead of 5 million people running around with the same gauntlets, mask of mo zing, eye glasses etc.

bhavv

bhavv

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Sep 2006

It would be even more awesome if I could wear female elly armor on my male elly and run around role playing a cross dresser.

/signed for that idea.

(Turn on your sarcasm detector plox!!!)

Nude Nira

Nude Nira

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jan 2008

inside a tanning bed

It's Raining Fame Hallelujah 【傘回傘】

Me/

Quote:
Originally Posted by farmerfez
oh god it's turning into WoW lol
Anet just giving the players what they wanted...people wanted a free WoW, soo Anet is gonna give it to us.

aaje vhanli

aaje vhanli

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Dec 2006

Quote:
Originally Posted by farmerfez
oh god it's turning into WoW lol
No. It's turning into GW2.

sph0nz

sph0nz

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: May 2005

none.

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Breakfast Mc Rit
What? I know what profession is coming at me the second I spot an enemy on my radar. Tab more.

OT: No.
lulz thx for the pr0 tip.

I said it would make it more difficult to distinguish other players. Remember the shitstorm April Fools caused because everybody looked like stickfigures?

imnotyourmother

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Mar 2008

in a house

The Knitters Guild

W/R

right no armor at all. you can kill snow wurms with no armor

N1ghtstalker

N1ghtstalker

Forge Runner

Join Date: Dec 2007

E/

then the armor will be uncostumized and you can actually buy and sell fow armor in town

Elder III

Elder III

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Jan 2007

Ohio

I Will Never Join Your Guild (NTY)

R/

/unsigned

now give me the last 2 minutes of my life back please...

fyi - this would not work in GW1 - the character models and the armor models would have to either be redone completely or new ones added for all the new armors.... far more work than Anet will be putting into this when GW2 is around the corner (er around several more corners actually).

Breakfast Mc Rit

Breakfast Mc Rit

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Apr 2008

[Sin]

Me/

Quote:
Originally Posted by sph0nz
lulz thx for the pr0 tip.

I said it would make it more difficult to distinguish other players. Remember the shitstorm April Fools caused because everybody looked like stickfigures?
I remember my guild not wanting to play much because it was plain stupid, but it didn't affect me in PvP.

Dr.Jones

Dr.Jones

Banned

Join Date: Jul 2008

i think this is abad idea for both gw1+2. if it means that you have to kill stuff to get one armor peace i hated that in diablo2

darkknightkain

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Mar 2007

P/W

/signed

Since the game already support Bandanas and etc with same skin but profession-specific stat, the system is already in place.
And the fact that the skins are already there and don't need to remodel anything.

With it then we can have more mix-n-match options for everyone, in particular Dervishes and Paragons whose armour options are very limited.

Just imagine, Pants for Paragons !!!

Carinae

Carinae

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jun 2005

Inside

Fifteen Over Fifty [Rare]

As a compromise I'd suggest relaxing the restriction in regards to hand and feet armor. Keep the head, chest and leg pieces as profession-specific (to allow the PvPers easy identification)

Indeed, my necro really fancies some monk sandals, and I don't think her having sandals would cause anyone to mistake her as a necro.

MithranArkanere

MithranArkanere

Underworld Spelunker

Join Date: Nov 2006

wikipedia.org/wiki/Vigo

Heraldos de la Llama Oscura [HLO]

E/

Design warning!

Armor are profession specific for two reasons:
- Fast recognition of characters and main professions.
- Rune limitations to primary attribute.

Armor should ALWAYS go with primary attribute and profession.
If they added a way to change profession, sure! Let people equip the armor of the primary profession after changing it.
Otherwise, not.

sixofone

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: May 2007

P/

Quote:
Originally Posted by MisterB
What pumpkin pie said. Also, Sardelac thread in Riverside.

Armor models are pretty much designed for quick recognition of class in PvP, but character models don't really have to be. I'm sure there's quite a few people who'd rather not have their male warrior look "fat," nor some of the female assassins look like they may have an eating disorder.
Yeah. It would be great to make the character look the way you wanted, but the armor should fit the profession.

(And why are all the male mesmers fat?)

AshenX

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jan 2008

Orange County, CA.

Black Flag

R/

For recognition in PVP just have characters take on their profession glow...like a boss. The basic idea of mix and match armor is to have the skin available for any profession. Of course a mesmer wearing an armor skin like 15k druids would not have the benefits of the ranger armor...the stats would be set for Mesmer armor. As far as having it fit...resizing isnt really a problem conceptually. My Ranger is as tall as I could make him but he can buy armor from the same crafter as someone who chose minimum height.

On the other hand this is too much of a change for GW1. Hopefully something like it will be available in GW2.

Winterclaw

Winterclaw

Wark!!!

Join Date: May 2005

Florida

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I don't think that this would work for every class, but for some classes (as long as the gender is the same) maybe.

For example warriors and paragons could switch and would be one group. Sassis, rangers, and dervs would be the next group. And all the casters would be a group. You could then switch in your group and gender, but not beyond that. However I don't think all armors should be switchable either.

inchoate

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Sep 2005

Psycho Titans

E/R

Yawn.

Stupid idea.

Lady Raenef

Lady Raenef

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Feb 2007

Oregon, USA.

Zero Mercy [zm]

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I wouldn't mind having awesome warrior armor on my female monk. Hell, male primeval on midget girl monk, ftw!