Cannot make gold :(

Winds

Winds

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jul 2006

CAx

I've taken a break from PvP'ing and I'm trying to make some gold on my PvE characters. There is rank discrimination even in pve, with the ursan crap demanding that you be level 9/10. I cannot find any groups that don't ask for ursan, and don't know alot of people to pve with. Me and a rl friend have been wanting to buy voltiac spears for a while now, but there is practically no way to make gold without having to grind a ursan r10 (which i really don't want to do, seeing how its so hated)

Any ideas?

Icy The Mage

Icy The Mage

Forge Runner

Join Date: Apr 2008

Canada

E/

do slavers runs and get yourself a voltaic spear from the chests.

Spazzer

Spazzer

Jungle Guide

Join Date: May 2006

USA

Team Asshat [Hat]

Mo/E

Go back to pvp and trade your zkeys for 5k ea

TechnoSword

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Oct 2006

International SuperStars

W/Mo

Yeah continuing to pvp get some zkeys to sell and maybe with the money buy a runner to do fill HM dungeon books for you max your norn out and booyah? Or just sell the zkeys till you get it =P

Edge Martinez

Edge Martinez

Jungle Guide

Join Date: May 2005

NC

DKL

Did a PvP dude just complain about PvE rank discrimination?

Winds

Winds

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jul 2006

CAx

I tried doing slavers exile like 20 times, with 2 people and the rest heros. Getting wiped everytime.. and no other people in Grotto want to do NM, especially if we aren't doing just duncan.

enter_the_zone

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Nov 2007

R/

Yeah, either z-keys for cash, or start doing Hero Fast Faction Farming.

Winds

Winds

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jul 2006

CAx

hero fast faction farming? what is that?

Gun Pierson

Gun Pierson

Forge Runner

Join Date: Feb 2006

Belgium

PIMP

Mo/

Why do you need an Ursan team in the first place? UW run isn't worth the trouble, same with DoA unless you can join experienced ursan teams who can play a full run HM. Double the gems that way.

Anyway some ideas:

Farm materials for con sets like feathers in Nahpui.
Solo or Duo farm ectos.
Trade in faction for Z-keys as well as tournament predictions.
Farm zasihen elite.
Farm fow (spider cave) for shards, oldskool style. Either solo or in a 4 men team.
etc.

Visit the farm forum.

HFFF is a boring grind, but will net you a couple of millions if you bring people with you for 100g a run each. Check the wiki for what it stands for.

masta_yoda

masta_yoda

Banned

Join Date: Feb 2007

most hated players in the [game]

R/Mo

i find it surprising you dont have any money from pvping and u cant do slavers with heroes 20 times, u cant learn from your mistakes or u just fail.

M1h4iL

M1h4iL

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Apr 2005

Perth, Australia

Quote:
Originally Posted by Edge Martinez
Did a PvP dude just complain about PvE rank discrimination?
Now he knows how it feels.

Winds

Winds

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jul 2006

CAx

yeah, i just fail. show me how you beat slavers exile (the entire quest) with heroes and ill bow to you as for the money from pvp, i bought me and my friend prestige armor.

Edge Martinez

Edge Martinez

Jungle Guide

Join Date: May 2005

NC

DKL

Quote:
Originally Posted by M1h4iL
Now he knows how it feels.
I can't talk. I get it both ways. Only r3 in PvP and tired of farming norn, so only r5 in Ursan.

My advice to the OP is to check out the PvX. There are some easy to run builds for beating the great destroyer, shiro, etc. You can do those runs for cash. Or run people around Kryta/Northern Shiverpeaks/Ascalon. Also check out some of the boss farming builds and just try and go after 1 or 2 bosses with good drops, and sell greens. And don't forget your free buried treasures in nightfall.

upier

upier

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Mar 2006

Done.

[JUNK]

Quote:
Originally Posted by Winds
I tried doing slavers exile like 20 times, with 2 people and the rest heros. Getting wiped everytime.. and no other people in Grotto want to do NM, especially if we aren't doing just duncan.
Hold the press!
Did a mighty PvPer just say that there is something in PvE that he can NOT do!??!
*faints*


Maybe you should try it blindfolded with one hand tied behind your back - with Frenzy/Mending and auto attack skills only. That's the advice I always get from the PvP crowd regarding PvE.




Winds

Winds

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jul 2006

CAx

lol mighty pvp'er? take it easy, not mighty at all. i don't run around ranking people and could give two craps less about what the rank of my teammates are, as usually are good friends ive made over the past couple months anyways. and yeah, theres alot of pve things i cannot do, like doing slavers exile or clearing UW.

upier

upier

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Mar 2006

Done.

[JUNK]

Quote:
Originally Posted by Winds
lol mighty pvp'er? take it easy, not mighty at all. i don't run around ranking people and could give two craps less about what the rank of my teammates are, as usually are good friends ive made over the past couple months anyways. and yeah, theres alot of pve things i cannot do, like doing slavers exile or clearing UW.
Yeah I was just joking - it's was just too good of a chance to pass!
Payback!!1


(Thanks for being a good sport about it! )

izzywish

izzywish

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Mar 2007

Manchester, UK

Carpe Nocte [StN]

R/

Okay first thing ignore that daft stuff Winds, some folk get a flaming from PvP'ers and then think if they now flame you it makes them just as 'leet'; and if leet translates to stupid then indeed it does

Now OT:- It really depends on what you play and where. Personally I'm never short on cash and I do that simply by playing the game in HM.
I'm not big on PUGs so I tend to avoid DoA, FoW and UW, and as you say r10 Ursan is a must for those.
However there are much easier options that will still allow you to make a bit. Look into wurms, there are a few areas that will pay out okay and you can take 4/8 with hero's. You may only make 5-10k a hour, but it is stress free and straight forward.
Do HM pretty much anywhere and you can make a bit.

Those are just some easy options off the top of my head; look in the farming section and you can easily find a farm that suits you and won't require r10 anything.

HTH and good hunting.

Red Sonya

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jul 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by Edge Martinez
Did a PvP dude just complain about PvE rank discrimination?
Yes he did, can you believe it? lol Just another one that wants things to be his way instead of playing the game as it IS intended not WAS intended.

N1ghtstalker

N1ghtstalker

Forge Runner

Join Date: Dec 2007

E/

PvP'ers make gold out of Zkeys mainly as i have thought
they go for 5k each and are very wanted
and ursan isn't that profitable, for an UW run you can get a few ectos in an hour or so
just do something else cuz ectos aren't that good anymore
your best bet is to sell zkeys if you earn loads of baltha faction
or check out some of the popular farms that are going on and look profitable to you

Rothan Celt

Rothan Celt

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Feb 2008

Aura

Mo/R

Learn to run a Dungeon and you will have millions in days. no joke so many ppl come along on a dungeon run and they never take 'that' long to do.

Evilreintje

Evilreintje

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Dec 2007

*still voting for GoS nerf so no more solo for sin in UW zzzz give back economy please ;o
Depends on what your main is aswell, I cna easily make 10k an hour with my monk or ele, jsut harder with my war or ranger or w/e

payne

payne

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Apr 2007

england (currently located on the south coast)

R/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Winds
yeah, i just fail. show me how you beat slavers exile (the entire quest) with heroes and ill bow to you as for the money from pvp, i bought me and my friend prestige armor.
get ready to bow...

firstly profession?
2ndly take monk with WoH and prot spirit and some other healing/prot smeg
ele nuker with SH / liquid flame and mark of rodgort
then the 3rd is pretty meh....I use razah with channeling and [skill]frozen soil[/skill] and that urn skill that rezes all nearby allys!
hench - 2monk..fire ele...nec!

your profession is irrelevent as this build works for most!
<<<<well its what I use running as a ranger (no ursan or cons)

R.Shayne

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Oct 2007

Solutions for making coin
  • Ursan Teams: If you want to join the ursan teams, bring a HB monk, but be ready to work your butt off trying to keep leeroy inc. alive. Go to where they farm norn points and join a team there to see what you are getting yourself into.
  • Trading: Playing Trader in Kamadan, Lion’s Arch, and Keining is a great way to make gold. My wife does this and I am always amazed at the coin she pulls down. I asked her about this and she said, “Concentrate on low end stuff that has a quick turn around such as; tomes, superb charr carvings, crafting material, and little stuff like termite legs. Buy in none peak hours (morning) and sell during peak times (evening).” You will make more money trading than anything else.
  • Running: You can run dungeons or cities for people. CoF always has a demand for runners. Since you coming from PvP you should be able to pickup the 600 monk or 600 rit really quickly. It will take a little investment in armor, equipment, and skills but pays off in the end.
  • Farming: This is the least productive way to make any gold. You can vanquish a map and not get a single gold drop. I like to 600 / Smite places like Mirror of Lyss and Vehtendi Valley and salvage the ruby mauls, ruby daggers, and jeweled daggers for jewels.

If you combine farming with trading you will make more gold. My wife plays trader and I farm stuff for her to sell. Since there is two of you one do the farming and one do the trader thing. In one day you will have enough to buy anything you want for both of you.

Good luck.

fireflyry

fireflyry

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jan 2007

New Zealand

A/D

Join a decent guild.

Solved.

Kanyatta

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jun 2006

Guildless, pm me

R/Mo

Quote:
Originally Posted by Winds
I've taken a break from PvP'ing
After reading the thread title and this, I figured out your problem.

Just PvP, make a ZKey farming guild, afk some AT's. You'll make more money in a few AT's than you ever would Ursan farming.

Antheus

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jan 2006

Unfortunately, PvE is quite hard, hence the rank requirements.

I suggest you get into scrub PUGs to improve your rank. Once you are r6-8, you'll get into fast Ursan farming groups, and from there, you're almost at r10.

And no, Ursan does not mean skill. It's just that it gives at least a slightly higher chance that people with high rank will have at least some experience, or will at least know how to press 1,2,3 in sequence.

And due to double rep weekends, r3 Ursan doesn't mean anything anymore.

PS: see what I did there?

Shuuda

Shuuda

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jul 2006

Guildless

Me/

Sell Z-Keys, don't waste your time with repetitive PvE. PvP makes you plenty of money, and is fun, at the same time.

And too all the PvErs laughing about his situation: Your a bunch of worms, but it's only natural that you lot would scavenge like tramps to find any opportunity to deny your fail and make yourselves feel better than PvPers. Kinda sad.

Clarissa F

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Nov 2007

Fighters of the Shiverpeaks

Me/Mo

A friend of mine just steps outside Beetletun with his rit and can make 100k in a day solo farming. Making money is easy in this game, especially on the PvE side. There are plenty of farming builds out there. Sometimes you will find that areas you don't usually think of as popular gold areas turn out to be very profitable. Things like ID'ing all items(whites can double their value from such) and keeping an eye out for minor runes that are worth something(hi vigor and radiants) will lead you to garnering plenty of cash for your character.

As was said before, check out the farming threads.

Savio

Savio

Teenager with attitude

Join Date: Jul 2005

Fifteen Over Fifty [Rare]

This subforum isn't for asking for help, and there are plenty of threads on making gold already. Closed.