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Konig Des Todes

Ooo, pretty flower

Join Date: Jan 2008

Citadel of the Decayed

The Archivists' Sanctum [Lore]

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12 Aug 2008 at 18:56 - 41

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Originally Posted by Azza

Tyria-Titan weapons(as mentioned above)

Factions-Shiro'ken weapons or Luxon/Kurzick Weapons

NightFall-(Talach ninneed said Torment weapons will be able to be added)

Eye Of The North-Destroyer Weapons(obviously already that)

Bonus Mission Pack-The weapons u Trade in for with the books

so then every elite weapon plays a roll in the game of it origin that can be monumentalised

^^^That Idea i Like^^^

Except for the BMP part, this is what I've been saying for who knows how long anymore. Although I'll settle for Deldrimor weapons in the HoM instead of adding Titan weapons (and you forgot about the true Core weapon set, Eternal Weapons!)

Oh, and /notsigned again, Greens are far from "great," especially end-game ones that basically cost 5k-10k from other players.

strajo

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jun 2008

Ex Yugoslavia [ExYu]

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12 Aug 2008 at 19:09 - 42

definitely not... waaay to much easier to get that destroyer, and i don't like the tormented weapons idea only the tormented shields and swords look nice ~.~

Mad King Corn

Banned

Join Date: Dec 2006

12 Aug 2008 at 19:13 - 43

Anet should at least put in a place where our characters can display their favorite weapons, no matter what they are. I am not about to spend a fortune just to display weapons with skins that I do not care for anyway.

MithranArkanere

Underworld Spelunker

Join Date: Nov 2006

wikipedia.org/wiki/Vigo

Heraldos de la Llama Oscura [HLO]

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12 Aug 2008 at 19:21 - 44

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Originally Posted by Azazel The Assassin

Except for the BMP part, this is what I've been saying for who knows how long anymore. Although I'll settle for Deldrimor weapons in the HoM instead of adding Titan weapons (and you forgot about the true Core weapon set, Eternal Weapons!)

Oh, and /notsigned again, Greens are far from "great," especially end-game ones that basically cost 5k-10k from other players.

Same here.

And for those that say that Destroyer and Titan weapons would look the same, rmemeber that there are Ice, Fire, Plant and Flesh titans. Not just fire ones.

Hailey Anne

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Sep 2007

A/E

12 Aug 2008 at 20:03 - 45

End game greens suck /notsigned

DokkyDok

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jul 2007

Interested in finding one.

Mo/

12 Aug 2008 at 21:45 - 46

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mad King Corn

Anet should at least put in a place where our characters can display their favorite weapons, no matter what they are. I am not about to spend a fortune just to display weapons with skins that I do not care for anyway.

Agreed. The Hall of Monuments is supposed to be for the individual player. Whether your favorites be expensive or cheap, I think the player should choose which items are to be put on display.

Kanyatta

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jun 2006

Guildless, pm me

R/Mo

12 Aug 2008 at 22:21 - 47

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Originally Posted by Tyla

They're too easy to get and often carry bad mods. The only endgame items I would like to see in there is Deldrimor (gold) weapons and Zodiac weapons.

/agree with Tyla

Hyper Cutter

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jun 2006

Knights of the White Eye [HINA]

12 Aug 2008 at 23:45 - 48

Quote:

Originally Posted by MithranArkanere

They are way easier to acquire than Torment and Destroyer weapons.

That's kind of the point.

/signed

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Originally Posted by DokkyDok

Agreed. The Hall of Monuments is supposed to be for the individual player. Whether your favorites be expensive or cheap, I think the player should choose which items are to be put on display.

this, a THOUSAND ****ING TIMES THIS!

Konig Des Todes

Ooo, pretty flower

Join Date: Jan 2008

Citadel of the Decayed

The Archivists' Sanctum [Lore]

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13 Aug 2008 at 00:41 - 49

Quote:

Originally Posted by MithranArkanere

Same here.

And for those that say that Destroyer and Titan weapons would look the same, rmemeber that there are Ice, Fire, Plant and Flesh titans. Not just fire ones.

And don't forget, in order to go with the places that the Titans do not appear, ANet would add Sand(Crystal Desert + Elona *cept Istani*), Jade(Jade Sea), and really who knows what would be done with Kaineng (Building Titans? Lol).

And if ANet got creative *Hey, it is possible*, they could make the skins different for each region *so stone weapons for Enchovald, Sulfer for Desolation, etc*.

Would love to see.

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Originally Posted by Hyper Cutter

That's kind of the point.

/signed

That's kind of the point for NOT adding end-game greens.

Gill Halendt

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Mar 2008

13 Aug 2008 at 07:54 - 50

BTW, I think we're allowed to add Destroyer and soon Tormented weapons because those are craftable/exchangeable sets, with fixed basic stats. It's not a matter of luck to get them, since those weapons don't drop anywhere, so anyone has the very same chance of getting one as long as they can afford it.

So, I'd /sign to allow crafted Deldrimor weapons to be added as well, since they respond to this very same criteria. They're not that cheap either, because of the Deldrimor Steel required.

As I said before, I don't think the gallery is meant to be just an armory or a trophy room. Sure, I'd like to add any weapon I like as well just for show, but that's supposedly not really the point of the HoM.

Scary

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Sep 2007

Uhmmmm??

Limburgse Jagers [LJ]

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13 Aug 2008 at 10:13 - 51

To mine opinion, they should take the weapon statue out of HoM.

There are a lot of nice weapons that would look nice in HoM.
But it is a stetue with the lowest value of them all, they could better ad a
statue of the Prophecies Titan quests... Those are verry nice quests
wich deserver a statue of there one after finishing,

isamu kurosawa

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Nov 2005

United Kingdom

Me/

13 Aug 2008 at 12:07 - 52

Quote:

Originally Posted by DokkyDok

Agreed. The Hall of Monuments is supposed to be for the individual player. Whether your favorites be expensive or cheap, I think the player should choose which items are to be put on display.

No, It wasn't. The HoM was designed primarily to transfer achievements to gw2 in the form of rewards. Getting an easy to aquire weapon is not an achievement.

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Originally Posted by gww

The Hall of Monuments was introduced in Guild Wars Eye of the North to facilitate players in transfering their accomplishments to Guild Wars 2 from their original Guild Wars account.

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Originally Posted by Gill Halendt

BTW, I think we're allowed to add Destroyer and soon Tormented weapons because those are craftable/exchangeable sets, with fixed basic stats. It's not a matter of luck to get them, since those weapons don't drop anywhere, so anyone has the very same chance of getting one as long as they can afford it.

It isn't even a question of cost apart from the measly 10k for destroyers. All the items can be collected for free by simply playing through the end game content. The 10k will be made from selling the junk you get along the way.

This is basically asking for a future reward without putting in the effort. Whats next? asking for a way to easily get champ title in PvE because you don't care for PvP?

Gill Halendt

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Mar 2008

13 Aug 2008 at 16:52 - 53

Quote:

Originally Posted by isamu kurosawa

It isn't even a question of cost apart from the measly 10k for destroyers. All the items can be collected for free by simply playing through the end game content. The 10k will be made from selling the junk you get along the way.

This is basically asking for a future reward without putting in the effort. Whats next? asking for a way to easily get champ title in PvE because you don't care for PvP?

You probably misunderstood my message. Check it down again please. You'll find out I'm basically saying the same thing as you.

BTW, I'm afraid Destroyer Weapons don't come for just 10k. They cost 5k and also require 10 onyx gemstones, 10 diamonds, 250 granite slabs and 100 iron ingots. That's around 50k each, way over what you'll get with a run through the normal game content.

MithranArkanere

Underworld Spelunker

Join Date: Nov 2006

wikipedia.org/wiki/Vigo

Heraldos de la Llama Oscura [HLO]

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13 Aug 2008 at 17:21 - 54

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hyper Cutter

That's kind of the point.

/signed

No, it to add 'prestige' stuff.

Greens are not 'prestigious', they are more like 'bonus'.
For Bonus items, you can get the in one shot, while you have to play for much some time in over level 20 areas to get prestige stuff.
You could say that you have to play through most of the game to get End-game greens, but you all now that the trophies to get them can be bought quite cheap nowadays.

Elite armor sets and Elite weapons sets are prestigious.
There are many Elite armor sets, but only 2 Elite weapon sets.

The solution is adding more prestige weapon sets.

Hyper Cutter

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jun 2006

Knights of the White Eye [HINA]

13 Aug 2008 at 21:09 - 55

Quote:

Originally Posted by isamu kurosawa

Getting an easy to aquire weapon is not an achievement.

And getting a cheap minipet is (and white minipets are just as acceptable to Devotion as the rarest greens and golds!)? How about capping a Black Moa or Imperial Phoenix? Honor can be almost filled just by completing campaigns. Hell, hero armor's not that hard to get either...

inscribed

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jan 2006

14 Aug 2008 at 18:17 - 56

with weapons that cost 50k+, and a monument that requires 13 of them to complete, it is a bit ridiculous fill out compared to the other monuments. i don't know that allowing end game greens is necessarily the answer, but adding craftable weapon sets from other campaigns is definitely a great idea.

750k to fill out a single monument while other monuments can be completed just by playing the normal game content is fairly whack.

Dr.Jones

Banned

Join Date: Jul 2008

14 Aug 2008 at 19:56 - 57

Quote:

Originally Posted by inscribed

with weapons that cost 50k+, and a monument that requires 13 of them to complete, it is a bit ridiculous fill out compared to the other monuments. i don't know that allowing end game greens is necessarily the answer, but adding craftable weapon sets from other campaigns is definitely a great idea.

750k to fill out a single monument while other monuments can be completed just by playing the normal game content is fairly whack.

agreed. and it actually says "Your deeds from the original Guild Wars campaigns will be commemorated in the Eye of the North expansion in your Hall of Monuments. The Hall of Monuments will reflect the achievements you earn in Eye of the North as well as those earned in Prophecies, Factions, and Nightfall. You will even be able to show off your hall to friends. Then, when Guild Wars 2 arrives, each of these monuments will correspond to special features your Guild Wars 2 characters can "inherit" from your own legendary past, giving you access to exclusive titles, companions , weapons, attire, and miniatures. These inherited items are unique: there is no other way within Guild Wars 2 to acquire them. "

so just having tormented and destroyer weps only applys to 2 games where are my profh and factions sets???!

also getting a tormented wep ele fire staff for my rit isn't practical or a good use of my money, seeing as i couldn't use it it would have to go to a hero, which is craziness seeing as i could get the same staff for a hell of a lot cheaper.

bhavv

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Sep 2006

16 Aug 2008 at 17:12 - 58

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hailey Anne

End game greens suck /notsigned

Tormented and Destroyer weapons suck even more to some people. Even if I could afford them, I still wouldnt buy a single one.

There should be far more choice for which weapons we can add other then just two different types of craftable skins.

What if there were only two seperate sets of armor for every class in the game that could be added to HoM and you didnt like either one? Would you waste your money on that specific armor set, or spend it on another that you personally prefer instead?

I choose weapons and armors that I like the look of, I dont want to look the same as everyone else in their Ninja masks with tormented shields and destroyer gauntlets.

Bowstring Badass

Forge Runner

Join Date: Nov 2005

Character selection screen figuring what I want to play...

Purple Lingerie - :D

16 Aug 2008 at 17:24 - 59

Honestly HoM should allow any gold weapon in it. I want my summit axe in gw2....

Tyla

Emo Goth Italics

Join Date: Sep 2006

16 Aug 2008 at 17:36 - 60

No.

These are easy to acquire, and through running you'd have a full monument faster than you would already.

Don't get me wrong, I would love to have my own weapons in there, but green ones are just... wut?

I will, however /Sign it if it was for Proph endgame weapons, aswell as giving Factions some of these types of skills too.

Edit: I already posted. Heha!!

Tender Wolf

Banned

Join Date: Jul 2007

All over Tyria, Cantha, & Elona

The Eternal Night Vanguard [TEN]

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16 Aug 2008 at 18:34 - 61

Personally I think any weapon should be allowed to be added to the HOM. When you try to add something other than Destroyer weapons, it'll say "Only the greatest weapons can be displayed here". What makes the greatest weapon? Surely not its skin, but that's basically what's being implied by only allowing Destroyer weapons (and eventually Tormented ones) to be added. So I think they should all be allowed to be added, end game greens included.

Dr.Jones

Banned

Join Date: Jul 2008

16 Aug 2008 at 19:01 - 62

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tyla

No.

These are easy to acquire, and through running you'd have a full monument faster than you would already.

Don't get me wrong, I would love to have my own weapons in there, but green ones are just... wut?

I will, however /Sign it if it was for Proph endgame weapons, aswell as giving Factions some of these types of skills too.

Edit: I already posted. Heha!!

people need to get out of there head that this tread is about adding all greens to the hom this is for END GAME says it in the title of the tread.

Tyla

Emo Goth Italics

Join Date: Sep 2006

16 Aug 2008 at 19:55 - 63

Who gives a flying shit about what greens are allowed? Even if it's endgame?

The fact I also posted a point about getting runs also points out I'm generally referring to endgame weapons.

t00115577

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Sep 2007

Mo/

16 Aug 2008 at 20:01 - 64

Any gold wep should be allowed in there imo.

I have an amber bow that i have had for as long as i can remember that is my fav item in GW, not as valuable as a tormented bow but if you asked me to trade, id tell you to bugger off lol

All i mean is sentimential value is more important for something like a HOM than e-peen status

R.Shayne

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Oct 2007

17 Aug 2008 at 03:40 - 65

I don't like any of the destroyer weapons. I like the tormented sceptor and focus (got a tormented recurve bow to but after I got it realized I don't like it, on a hero now) so that is it, I have a total of 3 weapons on a ranger and necro for the HoM. I am going to wait and see what the reward is before getting weapons that I find ugly and will only end up on heroes. I wonder how the account thing will work and if I can add more then one sceptor and focus.

You are never going to make ever one happy with only two sets of weapons. If each campaign had and end game crafter where weapons cost 10k plus material (Deldrimor & Destroyer) I think those should be added.

isamu kurosawa

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Nov 2005

United Kingdom

Me/

17 Aug 2008 at 13:11 - 66

Quote:

Originally Posted by R.Shayne

I don't like any of the destroyer weapons. I like the tormented sceptor and focus (got a tormented recurve bow to but after I got it realized I don't like it, on a hero now) so that is it, I have a total of 3 weapons on a ranger and necro for the HoM. I am going to wait and see what the reward is before getting weapons that I find ugly and will only end up on heroes. I wonder how the account thing will work and if I can add more then one sceptor and focus.

You are never going to make ever one happy with only two sets of weapons. If each campaign had and end game crafter where weapons cost 10k plus material (Deldrimor & Destroyer) I think those should be added.

And they still wont be happy because they wont be able to fill the HoM without buying the weapons they dont like.

I Is Special

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Nov 2006

NJ

To Gain Extra Mobility We Play [NUDE]

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17 Aug 2008 at 17:01 - 67

/notsigned.

I filled it up with all the destroyer weapons a long time ago, and i feel the monument would be cheapened if you put put greens in it that you can acquire for 5k each.

Don't be an ass. If you want the monument, buy the weapons like everyone else who has the monument did.

romeus petrus

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jun 2006

Urgoz Warren

Legion of Doom [LOD] Home of PWNZILLA http://PWNZILLA.guildlaunch.com

17 Aug 2008 at 18:45 - 68

If anet is going to allow endgame greens to be placed in HoM they might as well give free weapon skins in GW2 for anyone who owns a certain GW campaign.

But then again far worse things are being placed in HoM..

Still /notsigned.