Need help with my hero build

beserk

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: May 2008

UK

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I have EOTN and PROPHECIES only, keeping that in mind could i improve their builds since im starting HM in everything now.

[Ogden;OwYT04HDHSjYmYlIgYjY6LCEZAA] Energy bar =58


[Vekk;OgBCoMzQt0ibv+qLxAD] Energy bar =94

Note: both ele and monk have perfect 20/20 staffs with 20% enchants on them.


hope ive given enough info for advice thanks in advance.

aleaf92

aleaf92

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Nov 2007

New York City, New York

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[build=WoH Hybrid;OwYT04nCxRjsR20Ij7a9Y6LTA]

Healing Prayers-12+1+1 Prot-10+1 Divine Favor- 8+1

This is the build I run sometimes. Since you don't have NF, switch out [Dismiss Condition] for [Mend Ailment] or [Spotless Soul] and [Shield of Absorption] for [Shielding Hands]. [Rebirth] should be disabled because its for wipes only. Most people don't even run resurrection skills.

miskav

miskav

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jun 2005

None

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Maybe on the ele take out [Mark of Rodgort] for [Resurrection signet]

luwe80

luwe80

Academy Page

Join Date: Feb 2008

BK, NY

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How do heroes run that E bar? Energy wise I mean.

miskav

miskav

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jun 2005

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I'm wondering how Vekks a E/rt when you don't have factions o.o.

Forgive my ignorance, but doesn't that prevent him from going e/rt?

beserk

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Quote:
Originally Posted by miskav
I'm wondering how Vekks a E/rt when you don't have factions o.o.

Forgive my ignorance, but doesn't that prevent him from going e/rt? I unlocked xandra (rt hero), that was a mistake to make vekk a /rt though i changed it to just ele.

Tyla

Emo Goth Italics

Join Date: Sep 2006

If you're running Ether Renewal, full damage is kinda bad. You should put some support like Protective Spirit on it with Rodgorts and another direct damage skill with the rest being support. Shield Guardian is a skill that is highly viable and effective on an Ether Renewal bar with 3 enchantments.

You should remove the radiants on the Monk and take out RoF for something else; heroes suck with that skill. Same with the Ele for radiants, if you need more energy with that sort of energy management something is wrong.

I suggest Aleaf's bar, except Dismiss for Spotless Soul and the res for Aegis or Guardian.

beserk

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Tyla
If you're running Ether Renewal, full damage is kinda bad. You should put some support like Protective Spirit on it with Rodgorts and another direct damage skill with the rest being support. Shield Guardian is a skill that is highly viable and effective on an Ether Renewal bar with 3 enchantments.

You should remove the radiants on the Monk and take out RoF for something else; heroes suck with that skill. Same with the Ele for radiants, if you need more energy with that sort of energy management something is wrong.

I suggest Aleaf's bar, except Dismiss for Spotless Soul and the res for Aegis or Guardian.
For vekk What if i switch [ether renewal] for [elemental attunement] and leave the rest as it is?


And as for Ogden what about [word of healing] [mend ailment] [shielding hands] [aegis] [dwayna's kiss] [cure hex] [protective spirit] [glyph of lesser energy] ?

la_cabra_de_vida

la_cabra_de_vida

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Join Date: Nov 2007

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Kinda basic woh monk:

[word of healing][dwayna's kiss][no skill][no skill][no skill][protective spirit][aegis][glyph of lesser energy]

Then just throw in
[mend ailment]
[cure hex]
[healing seed]
[patient spirit]

for whatever the situation requires.

Tyla

Emo Goth Italics

Join Date: Sep 2006

Quote:
Originally Posted by beserk
For vekk What if i switch [ether renewal] for [elemental attunement] and leave the rest as it is?
Savannah Heat, and put in [[ward against melee] if you're caster and want to have a defensive turn or [[splinter weapon] if you're melee and want to have an offensive turn, providing nobody else on your team has Splinter.


Quote: i dont have SF as its in factions i have only eotn and proph =( so should i still go for [elemental attunement] ?




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And as for Ogden what about [word of healing] [dwayna's kiss] [mend ailment] [shielding hands] [protective spirit] [cure hex] [aegis] [glyph of lesser energy] ? I guess that could work. I doubt on my heroes with short recharge condition removals. Usually I have Foul Feast on a Minion Bomber so my team doesn't have to worry about conditions. But in the case of not having a Minion Bomber, Spotless Soul comes in first place.

beserk

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Tyla
Savannah Heat, and put in [[ward against melee] if you're caster and want to have a defensive turn or [[splinter weapon] if you're melee and want to have an offensive turn, providing nobody else on your team has Splinter.
I guess that could work. I doubt on my heroes with short recharge condition removals. Usually I have Foul Feast on a Minion Bomber so my team doesn't have to worry about conditions. But in the case of not having a Minion Bomber, Spotless Soul comes in first place. so i switch spotless soul for which skill on the bar i gave?

miskav

miskav

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jun 2005

None

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I'd assume mend condition, if you have faith in the second monk on your team.

Mad King Corn

Banned

Join Date: Dec 2006

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take out RoF for something else; heroes suck with that skill Why? I have it in my heroes bar, don't they use it correctly?

Is there a list anywhere that shows what skills that heroes don't use correctly?

beserk

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Ok ive decided to go with the following;

[word of healing] [spotless soul] [shielding hands] [aegis] [dwayna's kiss] [cure hex] [protective spirit] [glyph of lesser energy]

and

[Vekk;OgBCoMzQt0ibv+qLxAD]

Taking [ether renewal] out and replacing it with [savannah heat]

Tyla

Emo Goth Italics

Join Date: Sep 2006

By the way, your Ele bar still needs utility. I suggest Ward Against Melee instead of Mark of Rodgort.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Mad Corn King
Why? I have it in my heroes bar, don't they use it correctly?

Is there a list anywhere that shows what skills that heroes don't use correctly?
There's a thread somewhere.

But the reason they suck with it is they use the prot after they take big damage instead of before.

zwei2stein

zwei2stein

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Join Date: Jun 2006

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Quote:
Originally Posted by beserk
... Energy bar =58

... Energy bar =94

Note: both ele and monk have perfect 20/20 staffs with 20% enchants on them.

... Seems like you are running energy insignia and runes. You really want to replace them with health insigni and runes for hm.

Nainoa

Nainoa

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jun 2008

USA

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That fire ele with SH elite is going to run out of mana very quick with fire attunement being the only energy management skill.

distilledwill

distilledwill

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Blighty

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Originally Posted by zwei2stein
Seems like you are running energy insignia and runes. You really want to replace them with health insigni and runes for hm. QFT, with that in mind, you might want to try using [[Signet Of Rejuvenation] instead of Dwayna's Kiss, helps with the energy management. Seeing as energy management > having a big energy pool.

beserk

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Quote:
Originally Posted by zwei2stein
Seems like you are running energy insignia and runes. You really want to replace them with health insigni and runes for hm.


im planning to replace their attunement runes on their chests with superior vigor runes to get their health up from 510 to 560...problem solved =p high energy and health XD.


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Originally Posted by distilledwill
QFT, with that in mind, you might want to try using [[Signet Of Rejuvenation] instead of Dwayna's Kiss, helps with the energy management. Seeing as energy management > having a big energy pool.
I only have eotn and proph atm =( im a broke student ^^.

Marverick

Marverick

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If you want skills from campaigns that you don't have for your heroes, there is a way.

Find a boss with that skill (Borgus Blisterbark has SF, Ilsundur, Lord of Fire has SH and Glowing Gaze) and capture it. It will appear locked to you, but if you place it on your heroes' skill bar, they can use it.

beserk

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Marverick
If you want skills from campaigns that you don't have for your heroes, there is a way.

Find a boss with that skill (Borgus Blisterbark has SF, Ilsundur, Lord of Fire has SH and Glowing Gaze) and capture it. It will appear locked to you, but if you place it on your heroes' skill bar, they can use it.
Not possible because ive tried to cap skills from NF and factions that were present on eotn mobs and it didnt let me even equip it (hence cant cap it) also my heros cannot used locked skills ive tried that...

-Lotus-

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Quote:
Originally Posted by beserk
Not possible because ive tried to cap skills from NF and factions that were present on eotn mobs and it didnt let me even equip it (hence cant cap it) also my heros cannot used locked skills ive tried that... fail.....
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beserk

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Originally Posted by -Lotus-
fail.....
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I dont understand what you mean plz make sense.