Frigid Armor on the derv for pvp?

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kazi_saki
kazi_saki
Lion's Arch Merchant
#1
This is my first Derv in PvP as I usually play sins/rits

I'm trying out a conjure build so can you guys rate/suggest for this build?

[conjurefrost derv;OgajsopMLO/XmLAG62OfGlXBAA]

I thought frigid armor was nice but any other suggestions?

someone told me to use a conjure build instead of this build i first ran since I had no balth points to spare (used them for zkeys)

[firstdervbuild;OgCjkyrDLP/XmLAG6KuH3jXBAA]

I know u guys get this all the time so thanx for the help
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Tyla
Emo Goth Italics
#2
Not really much of a point in the usage of it. You would also need an IAS and an IMS, for faster killing speed and a counter against kiting. Besides, your Monk should have your back and in terms of RA you either have a Monk or your chances are very slim.
kazi_saki
kazi_saki
Lion's Arch Merchant
#3
so I should go for that conjure flame/flame djinn's haste build? what do I use for an IAS? heart of fury?
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DarkNecrid
Furnace Stoker
#4
Change Crippling Sweep for Crippling Victory. Change Victorious Sweep for Chilling Victory. Change Frigid Armor for Heart of Fury.

imo
kazi_saki
kazi_saki
Lion's Arch Merchant
#5
I like the crippling victory one but if i switch from victorious sweep to chilling victory, won't I have to spread to wind prayers? how should I spread the attributes?
Bowstring Badass
Bowstring Badass
Forge Runner
#6
I was running a weird point spread without conjure. 12+1+1 scythe 10+2 wind and 8+1 myst. It's basically the same bar instead of conjure I took [[faithful intervention] it works just not as good as conjure. You can even make [[chilling victory] useful to an extent.
kazi_saki
kazi_saki
Lion's Arch Merchant
#7
I just tried replacing frigid armor with armor of mist and the combination is pretty good. It gives +30 armor to everything and 33% IMS. Is that ok?
Bobby2
Bobby2
Furnace Stoker
#8
[frigid armor] stops [glyph of immolation][steam]

messed up a good number of Water Eles already
GourangaPizza
GourangaPizza
Krytan Explorer
#9
IMO [Sight Beyond Sight] is better for countering blindness.
Bobby2
Bobby2
Furnace Stoker
#10
yeah but taking both [sight beyond sight] and a Conjure on a Derv is hard... strange...
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Tyla
Emo Goth Italics
#11
Quote: Originally Posted by Bobby2
[frigid armor] stops [glyph of immolation][steam]

messed up a good number of Water Eles already Holy shit! Why didn't I think of that?
Mitchel
Mitchel
Krytan Explorer
#12
Quote: Originally Posted by kazi_saki This is my first Derv in PvP as I usually play sins/rits

I'm trying out a conjure build so can you guys rate/suggest for this build?

[conjurefrost derv;OgajsopMLO/XmLAG62OfGlXBAA]

I thought frigid armor was nice but any other suggestions? Might wanna drop Victorious for Heart of Holy Flame
Quote:
Originally Posted by kazi_saki
since I had no balth points to spare (used them for zkeys) Houston, we have a problem
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Tyla
Emo Goth Italics
#13
Quote: Might wanna drop Victorious for Heart of Holy Flame Heart of Holy Flame is terribad, and it converts your damage type.
Bowstring Badass
Bowstring Badass
Forge Runner
#14
Think he meant Heart of Fury?
Bobby2
Bobby2
Furnace Stoker
#15
I sure hope so...
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dosaguy
Pre-Searing Cadet
#16
Hey guys, I'd been inspired by this thread so i made a Conjure build using [Frigid Armor]. So far, every single time when I've had a decent healer on my team in RA, I've been able to do amazing DPS monks often can't heal through, and it provides good pressure.

[Conjure Frost][Frigid Armor][Heart of Fury][Zealous Sweep][Lyssa's Assault][Crippling Sweep][Reaper's Sweep][Resurrection Signet]

Scythe Mastery 12+1+1
Mysticism 11+1
Water Magic 8

I know it needs an IMS because the only real times I fail to kill a squishy (not counting the times i get Blurred/SoM'd) is when said squishy kites...though Crippling helps with this. This build pretty much requires a monk to back me up...but i personally think it rocks. Opinions?
joshuarodger
joshuarodger
Unbanned
#17
the only real problem i see with it is your attacks take too long to recharge. if you're going to use zealous sweep, you don't really need [[lyssa's ass] and [[zealous sw]. take [[eremite's a] or [[mystic sw] instead of one of them and maybe an IMS instead of [[crippling sw]. you'll catch more kiters with an IMS than with cripple.
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dosaguy
Pre-Searing Cadet
#18
hmm, what IMS would u recommend? [Pious Fury]? or maybe [Armor of Mist]?
KMVRanger
KMVRanger
Frost Gate Guardian
#19
Quote: Originally Posted by dosaguy
hmm, what IMS would u recommend? [Pious Fury]? or maybe [Armor of Mist]? Well one is about attacking faster the other is about moving. If you are dealing with a primarily stationary foe than PF obviously. If you are the stalker type and like to chase down dashing or sprinting foes then AoM.

I've been reading most of these posts. I like the last Conjure build with the exception of relying on enchants (biggest Derv downfall). Of course that is the issue: You can't have a conjure build without using enchants.

I'd like to see an enchantless Derv build using wards or mantras or anything that can't get stripped. Just a thought.
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dosaguy
Pre-Searing Cadet
#20
I'm sorry, I meant [Pious Haste], not [Pious Fury].