Frigid Armor on the derv for pvp?

kazi_saki

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Feb 2008

Somewhere between GW and GW2

Shaved Wookies [HoT]

14 Jul 2008 at 16:10 - 1

This is my first Derv in PvP as I usually play sins/rits

I'm trying out a conjure build so can you guys rate/suggest for this build?

[conjurefrost derv;OgajsopMLO/XmLAG62OfGlXBAA]

I thought frigid armor was nice but any other suggestions?

someone told me to use a conjure build instead of this build i first ran since I had no balth points to spare (used them for zkeys)

[firstdervbuild;OgCjkyrDLP/XmLAG6KuH3jXBAA]

I know u guys get this all the time so thanx for the help

Tyla

Emo Goth Italics

Join Date: Sep 2006

14 Jul 2008 at 16:13 - 2

Not really much of a point in the usage of it. You would also need an IAS and an IMS, for faster killing speed and a counter against kiting. Besides, your Monk should have your back and in terms of RA you either have a Monk or your chances are very slim.

kazi_saki

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Feb 2008

Somewhere between GW and GW2

Shaved Wookies [HoT]

14 Jul 2008 at 16:16 - 3

so I should go for that conjure flame/flame djinn's haste build? what do I use for an IAS? heart of fury?

DarkNecrid

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Jul 2006

14 Jul 2008 at 16:17 - 4

Change Crippling Sweep for Crippling Victory. Change Victorious Sweep for Chilling Victory. Change Frigid Armor for Heart of Fury.

imo

kazi_saki

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Feb 2008

Somewhere between GW and GW2

Shaved Wookies [HoT]

14 Jul 2008 at 16:28 - 5

I like the crippling victory one but if i switch from victorious sweep to chilling victory, won't I have to spread to wind prayers? how should I spread the attributes?

Bowstring Badass

Forge Runner

Join Date: Nov 2005

Character selection screen figuring what I want to play...

Purple Lingerie - :D

14 Jul 2008 at 20:12 - 6

I was running a weird point spread without conjure. 12+1+1 scythe 10+2 wind and 8+1 myst. It's basically the same bar instead of conjure I took [[faithful intervention] it works just not as good as conjure. You can even make [[chilling victory] useful to an extent.

kazi_saki

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Feb 2008

Somewhere between GW and GW2

Shaved Wookies [HoT]

15 Jul 2008 at 07:45 - 7

I just tried replacing frigid armor with armor of mist and the combination is pretty good. It gives +30 armor to everything and 33% IMS. Is that ok?

Bobby2

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Jun 2007

Delayed in order to meet ANet's high standards

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W/E

16 Jul 2008 at 09:56 - 8

[frigid armor] stops [glyph of immolation][steam]

messed up a good number of Water Eles already

GourangaPizza

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Oct 2006

R/W

16 Jul 2008 at 10:55 - 9

IMO [Sight Beyond Sight] is better for countering blindness.

Bobby2

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Jun 2007

Delayed in order to meet ANet's high standards

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W/E

16 Jul 2008 at 20:18 - 10

yeah but taking both [sight beyond sight] and a Conjure on a Derv is hard... strange...

Tyla

Emo Goth Italics

Join Date: Sep 2006

16 Jul 2008 at 23:55 - 11

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bobby2

[frigid armor] stops [glyph of immolation][steam]

messed up a good number of Water Eles already

Holy shit! Why didn't I think of that?

Mitchel

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jan 2007

Almkerk, The Netherlands

P/W

17 Jul 2008 at 08:29 - 12

Quote:

Originally Posted by kazi_saki

Might wanna drop Victorious for Heart of Holy Flame
Quote:

Originally Posted by kazi_saki

since I had no balth points to spare (used them for zkeys) Houston, we have a problem

Tyla

Emo Goth Italics

Join Date: Sep 2006

17 Jul 2008 at 14:13 - 13

Quote:

Might wanna drop Victorious for Heart of Holy Flame Heart of Holy Flame is terribad, and it converts your damage type.

Bowstring Badass

Forge Runner

Join Date: Nov 2005

Character selection screen figuring what I want to play...

Purple Lingerie - :D

17 Jul 2008 at 17:01 - 14

Think he meant Heart of Fury?

Bobby2

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Jun 2007

Delayed in order to meet ANet's high standards

[MaSS]

W/E

17 Jul 2008 at 17:44 - 15

I sure hope so...

dosaguy

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Jul 2008

25 Jul 2008 at 13:56 - 16

Hey guys, I'd been inspired by this thread so i made a Conjure build using [Frigid Armor]. So far, every single time when I've had a decent healer on my team in RA, I've been able to do amazing DPS monks often can't heal through, and it provides good pressure.

[Conjure Frost][Frigid Armor][Heart of Fury][Zealous Sweep][Lyssa's Assault][Crippling Sweep][Reaper's Sweep][Resurrection Signet]

Scythe Mastery 12+1+1
Mysticism 11+1
Water Magic 8

I know it needs an IMS because the only real times I fail to kill a squishy (not counting the times i get Blurred/SoM'd) is when said squishy kites...though Crippling helps with this. This build pretty much requires a monk to back me up...but i personally think it rocks. Opinions?

joshuarodger

Unbanned

Join Date: Jan 2008

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Mo/

25 Jul 2008 at 15:10 - 17

the only real problem i see with it is your attacks take too long to recharge. if you're going to use zealous sweep, you don't really need [[lyssa's ass] and [[zealous sw]. take [[eremite's a] or [[mystic sw] instead of one of them and maybe an IMS instead of [[crippling sw]. you'll catch more kiters with an IMS than with cripple.

dosaguy

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Jul 2008

25 Jul 2008 at 15:30 - 18

hmm, what IMS would u recommend? [Pious Fury]? or maybe [Armor of Mist]?

KMVRanger

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Feb 2008

East Coast USA

Me/Mo

25 Jul 2008 at 19:25 - 19

Quote:

Originally Posted by dosaguy

hmm, what IMS would u recommend? [Pious Fury]? or maybe [Armor of Mist]? Well one is about attacking faster the other is about moving. If you are dealing with a primarily stationary foe than PF obviously. If you are the stalker type and like to chase down dashing or sprinting foes then AoM.

I've been reading most of these posts. I like the last Conjure build with the exception of relying on enchants (biggest Derv downfall). Of course that is the issue: You can't have a conjure build without using enchants.

I'd like to see an enchantless Derv build using wards or mantras or anything that can't get stripped. Just a thought.

dosaguy

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Jul 2008

25 Jul 2008 at 21:26 - 20

I'm sorry, I meant [Pious Haste], not [Pious Fury].