Raptor Farming

Hara Makoto

Hara Makoto

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Apr 2008

London, UK

The Imperial Guards of Istan [TIGI]

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Well i haven't seen a thread regarding this , and it would make accessing the correct builds to do the farm slightly easier. Now this thread is a reference and if you do not like a build or disagree with a technique please try not to flame it or go into a string of insutls and swearing .

So post your tips , techniques and builds for raptor farming here .

Megabass

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: May 2008

Sacred Cow Runners [moo]

W/

I've done it HM with Assassin. Perma+Sliver Armor. Worked great.
It takes longer now but still is worth some time.

snodaard

snodaard

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jun 2006

Holland

[Uni]

Mo/

I have one tip!
STOP MAKING RAPTOR THREADS

Megabass

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: May 2008

Sacred Cow Runners [moo]

W/

@snodaard
/agree

mastar of warrior

mastar of warrior

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Mar 2006

sweden

N/A

Mo/

search http://guildwarsguru.com/forum/searc...archid=2588134
Use Pvxwiki.com

Quote:
Originally Posted by snodaard
I have one tip!
STOP MAKING RAPTOR THREADS People never will.
as soon as there is a event with special drops, everyone gets to lazy to check more then the first post in the farming section and create their own thread.

And there are tons of raptor farming builds.

[any/W Raptor farmer;OAESI5KT4F0F8FKF7gBAAAAAA]
[A/E Raptor farmer;OwZToY/8ZS6jHRnxtUZAYInJgB]
[E/Me Raptor farmer;OgVTMyEzyBV8VLFxCeIKwEEBA]
[Me/E Raptor Farmer;OQZTAyAPSSoqU4rKukHqVwEICA]
[R/E Raptor Farmer;OgYTk4FfHydQZgdAVQ4AukHCAA]
[W/E Raptor farmer;OQYTk4IWViugHCA4uMvYwKtYrA]
[W/Rt raptor farmer;OQgjEpVYIT5FWMDWpFul8FdFGWA]

Im not saying all works , just posted what i found.

Silvia Shadowback

Silvia Shadowback

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jan 2008

Sleeping at Worlds [End]

N/Mo

The E/Me build works great, but i would recommend exchanging ward against foes for Glyph of Renewal. This way you can have sliver armour up all the time and greatly reduce the time of a run.

Hara Makoto

Hara Makoto

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Apr 2008

London, UK

The Imperial Guards of Istan [TIGI]

R/

Quote:
Originally Posted by snodaard
I have one tip!
STOP MAKING RAPTOR THREADS a better tip : instead of keep making raptor threads , just have one with all the builds in! :P

[OgYTk41cZar6uE4AVA1AukHiUEA]

This is a build a guildie gave me for raptor farming , dunno how effeciently it works etc , so will post about the build in more detail later

Shayne Hawke

Shayne Hawke

Departed from Tyria

Join Date: May 2007

Clan Dethryche [dth]

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I'm interested in how these builds compare to each other.

[build name="HM Raptor Mist-Farmer" prof=R/E Expertise=3+1+1 Water=12 EarthMagic=12][Armor of Mist][Glyph of Sacrifice][Mist Form][Magnetic Aura][Whirling Defense][Air of Superiority][Sliver Armor][Ebon Battle Standard of Honor][/build]

[build name="HM Raptor Escape-Farmer" prof=R/E Expertise=12+1+1 EarthMagic=12][Stone Striker][Dwarven Stability][Escape][Magnetic Aura][Throw Dirt][Air of Superiority][Sliver Armor][Ebon Battle Standard of Honor][/build]

Chico

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jan 2007

Quote:
Originally Posted by Shayne Hawke
I'm interested in how these builds compare to each other.

[build name="HM Raptor Mist-Farmer" prof=R/E Expertise=3+1+1 Water=12 EarthMagic=12][Armor of Mist][Glyph of Sacrifice][Mist Form][Magnetic Aura][Whirling Defense][Air of Superiority][Sliver Armor][Ebon Battle Standard of Honor][/build]

[build name="HM Raptor Escape-Farmer" prof=R/E Expertise=12+1+1 EarthMagic=12][Stone Striker][Dwarven Stability][Escape][Magnetic Aura][Throw Dirt][Air of Superiority][Sliver Armor][Ebon Battle Standard of Honor][/build] The damage source is the same for both builds is Sliver + Ebon, the only damage source difference is Whirling Defense. I'd day that if both have the same survivability then the one that has a little edge on killing faster is the mist farmer.

Voodoo Rage

Voodoo Rage

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Mar 2008

Sacramento, CA

Geezers

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Mist Farmer is WAY better (that's my baby). If you've captured the Asuran Skill Mindbender (and have a decent Asuran rank), you can replace the first two skills entirely, opening up an optional slot (I added throw dirt for the heck of it to reduce interrupts even further). Mindbender is nice because it reduces casting times (and therefore interruptions!). BTW, the Whirling Defense is there purely for interrupt prevention. It does not damage since you are not getting hit by projectiles. This build is superior because it is more predictable, you very rarely get interrupted compared to the older build (about 1 in 10).

[build=OgYTk4FfHatU4gdAVA1AukHKXEA]



Unfortunately my beloved ranger farmer has been surpassed by my Ele/Me farmer who I just brought up to Rata Sum.

[build=OgVEMWyryGZC4OgKEBwOwDhDuEA]

1-2-3 at entrance (will last long enough to aggro and get to broodmother), 4-5-6-7 at broodmother (in quick succession), cast echo before you recast sliver. That will give you 3 casts of sliver before zoning away. Enchanting staff, superior water and earth runes, and everything else survivor and vigor. Sweet build is as fast as the ranger but impossible to interrupt (although you could get your energy drained if you are too slow getting your spells up).

or for NM event item farming, you can REALLY knock em dead with this build:

[build=OgVEMWyryG4uJoGB7KrqrA]

1 at entrance, 2-3-4-5-6-7-8 at broodmother's group (should knock all nestlings dead instantly).


My character is only a couple days old, so if I ever get around to it, Ebon Battle Standard of Honor would be superior to Intensity and Mindbender would probably work well too.

Hara Makoto

Hara Makoto

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Apr 2008

London, UK

The Imperial Guards of Istan [TIGI]

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yes i'd say the mist form build is the better one to use for the ranger :P

Fay Vert

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Apr 2006

R/

I prefer the Escape version by far.

But in reality, both work.

Michiko Miko

Michiko Miko

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Dec 2007

USA

Quote:
Originally Posted by Voodoo Rage
Mist Farmer is WAY better (that's my baby). If you've captured the Asuran Skill Mindbender (and have a decent Asuran rank), you can replace the first two skills entirely, opening up an optional slot (I added throw dirt for the heck of it to reduce interrupts even further). Mindbender is nice because it reduces casting times (and therefore interruptions!). BTW, the Whirling Defense is there purely for interrupt prevention. It does not damage since you are not getting hit by projectiles. This build is superior because it is more predictable, you very rarely get interrupted compared to the older build (about 1 in 10).

[build=OgYTk4FfHatU4gdAVA1AukHKXEA]



Unfortunately my beloved ranger farmer has been surpassed by my Ele/Me farmer who I just brought up to Rata Sum.

[build=OgVEMWyryGZC4OgKEBwOwDhDuEA]

1-2-3 at entrance (will last long enough to aggro and get to broodmother), 4-5-6-7 at broodmother (in quick succession), cast echo before you recast sliver. That will give you 3 casts of sliver before zoning away. Enchanting staff, superior water and earth runes, and everything else survivor and vigor. Sweet build is as fast as the ranger but impossible to interrupt (although you could get your energy drained if you are too slow getting your spells up).

or for NM event item farming, you can REALLY knock em dead with this build:

[build=OgVEMWyryGZC4OgKEBwOwDhDuEA]

1 at entrance, 2-3-4-5-6-7-8 at broodmother's group (should knock all nestlings dead instantly).


My character is only a couple days old, so if I ever get around to it, Ebon Battle Standard of Honor would be superior to Intensity and Mindbender would probably work well too. Second and third build (hm and nm) are the same, did you mean that or was it a wrong code?

Voodoo Rage

Voodoo Rage

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Mar 2008

Sacramento, CA

Geezers

R/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Michiko Miko
Second and third build (hm and nm) are the same, did you mean that or was it a wrong code? Fixed, thanks.

Nodakim

Nodakim

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: May 2008

Hrvatska

N/Me

any sugestion what is the best assasin or necro build for farming this?(hm with boss)

snodaard

snodaard

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jun 2006

Holland

[Uni]

Mo/

I don't think HM with necro is possible, but I use this for NM whit the bossgroup( the boss wont die xD)

[build=OAdTcY/8ZiHRnZtEphNgU0FCOAA]

Use a high energy set to manage energy and use mindbender in the start for a speedboost.

SOF

SOF

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jul 2008

The Rejected Sins [SOF]

Now, I only farm in NM since the nerf and I wanna kill fast for Party Items, but here it is:

Deadly Paradox
Archane Echo
Shadow Form
Ether Nightmare
Radiation Field

Booyah! Degen the little buggars to death!

NiukNiuk

NiukNiuk

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jan 2006

France

P/

When I farm with my ele, I use this (hm):

[build=OgVEMJOJz5gC+qlilBPEVYCiAA]

When I farm them with my Paragon (NM, without the boss) I use this:

[build=OQGjUxmJaSmY3l0k0F5F0bkiBAA]

Paul thy god

Paul thy god

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jul 2007

N/Rt

Hell if were talking NM Here, before the SF nerf i used to just take: [Deadly Paradox] [Shadow Form] [Phoenix]

12 fire
12 shadow
just run it, aggro everything, then use DP then SF, then when they're all grouped Phoenix

I Guess you could use
[Mantra of Resolve] [Mist Form] [Phoenix]
12 Fire Magic or higher
12 Water Magic
Rest in Inspiration
Enchanting mod of sorts, or just take [Glyph of swiftness] or [Arcane Echo]

craigrs84

Academy Page

Join Date: Jul 2007

A/

i found an interesting HM raptor killing combo.

1. Radiation Field
2. Black Powder Mine
3. Viper's Defense

With Level 7 PVE ranks, and High Shadow Arts, you can cast them back to back, in that order, and kill all the raptors with only these 3 skills.

My Lipgloss is Cool

My Lipgloss is Cool

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Dec 2007

My Computer

Band Of The H A W K

P/Mo

Quote:
Originally Posted by Nodakim
any sugestion what is the best assasin or necro build for farming this?(hm with boss)
From Fuzzy Taco;

12 Water, 12 Earth, 3 Soul Reaping
[Armor of Mist][Mental Block][Glyph of Concentration][Mist Form][Magnetic Aura][Sliver Armor][Air of Superiority][Ebon Battle Standard of Honor]

Quote:
Originally Posted by Fuzzy Taco
Zone into Riven Earth. grab the blessing, then run to Raptor cave. precast Armor of Mist, Mental Block, and Glyph of Concentration, in that order. run around, getting hit often enough to keep up Mental Block, and aggro as many raptors as possible, including the boss group. hit Mist Form while under Glyph, then hit Magnetic Aura followed by Glyph and Sliver. hit AoS after Sliver, THEN hit the standard, and things will start dying. recast enchantments and standards as they recharge - use Glyph on Sliver and Mist Form to make sure they get up. runs are between 2 and 3 minutes, and it's amazingly easy after a bit of practice.

Voodoo Rage

Voodoo Rage

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Mar 2008

Sacramento, CA

Geezers

R/

Quote:
Originally Posted by My Lipgloss is Cool
From Fuzzy Taco;

12 Water, 12 Earth, 3 Soul Reaping
[Armor of Mist][Mental Block][Glyph of Concentration][Mist Form][Magnetic Aura][Sliver Armor][Air of Superiority][Ebon Battle Standard of Honor] That's just a version of my mist form ranger build. I would use Glyph of Sacrifice instead of Concentration. It more or less does the same thing (prevents your Mist Form from being interrupted) but it also makes the casting time instantaneous so that you don't need to worry about getting mobbed while casting it. The added recharge is a nonfactor since your skills will all recharge when either the broodmother goes down or Air of Superiority gives you a recharge. Like the ranger build, if you have Mindbender and a decent Asuran Rank, that alone is enough to run you through the cave AND get your Mist Form cast interrupt free since it reduces casting time too. That would free up an additional slot allowing you to add another skill (it would have to be a non-PvE skill).

Mr.Kotte

Mr.Kotte

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jul 2005

Me/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Voodoo Rage
I would use Glyph of Sacrifice instead of Concentration. It more or less does the same thing (prevents your Mist Form from being interrupted) but it also makes the casting time instantaneous so that you don't need to worry about getting mobbed while casting it. ).
Quote:
Originally Posted by http://guildwars.wikia.com/wiki/Glyph_of_Sacrifice
The spell cast through Glyph of Sacrifice casts in 1/4 second. The AI have godly interrupts, and WILL interrupt this, especially in HM.

Voodoo Rage

Voodoo Rage

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Mar 2008

Sacramento, CA

Geezers

R/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr.Kotte
The AI have godly interrupts, and WILL interrupt this, especially in HM. Actually, the in-game description says that the spell casts instantly, not 1/4 sec. So it can't be interrupted (i've never seen it happen).

I used the Mindbender only version for a long time before I switched to an Ele build and it was very dependable. You are usually running far enough in front of them to not get hit anyway. But, yes, even Magnetic Aura which has a 1/4 sec cast gets interrupted sometimes in a mob. Overall Mindbender + Whirling Defense + Magnetic Aura + Throw Dirt + 40% HCT on weapon = extremely low chance that sliver get's interrupted even by the full mob. Now I was doing this with R10 Asuran, so I can see where at lower ranks the lower duration of Mindbender would probably make it ineffective. The reason mindbender is nice is that it allows you to run all the way to the broodmother group before casting mist form. That give you a few more seconds of damage for those crappy instances where the broodmother doesn't get targeted by sliver or Air of Superiority doesn't recharge you.

Mr.Kotte

Mr.Kotte

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jul 2005

Me/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Voodoo Rage
Actually, the in-game description says that the spell casts instantly, not 1/4 sec. So it can't be interrupted (i've never seen it happen). The IG description is wrong, look again.

Voodoo Rage

Voodoo Rage

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Mar 2008

Sacramento, CA

Geezers

R/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr.Kotte
The IG description is wrong, look again. I question the validity of wiki there. Regardless, in literally thousands of runs depending on glyph of sacrifice to protect my mist form cast, I have NEVER been interrupted while the glyph was active.

My Lipgloss is Cool

My Lipgloss is Cool

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Dec 2007

My Computer

Band Of The H A W K

P/Mo

Quote:
Originally Posted by Voodoo Rage
I question the validity of wiki there. Regardless, in literally thousands of runs depending on glyph of sacrifice to protect my mist form cast, I have NEVER been interrupted while the glyph was active. I have seen glyph of sacrificed things be interrupted. Most people will queue their spell up right after their glyph, so a well placed interrupt can get it.
Just watch yourself as you cast something under the glyph, and you'll see the casting bar move just like a 1/4 spell.

DirtyDirty

DirtyDirty

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jun 2007

R/

First off, I want to thank you guys for informing beginners like me on how to farm the right way. These builds are like nothing I've ever seen before and the people who came up with them were definitly thinking outside the box. I have a 55Mo that I used to kill Jade Brothers with, but I wanted to try her out on the Raptors to see how she'd do.

Regarding the raptor pit; I only have 1 of my characters that far and it's a Mo/xx. I did some reading on 55Mo builds and thought I'd try out this one on the raptors... but I keep running into a major problem.

[build=OwUUMEH/QoO1jIgBBgcXXJQE5BA][/build]

When I draw the crowd in and cast the Shield+B.Aura, it only deals about 75% damage before the raptors scatter and survive. At that point, I usually lose all my energy then die/fail. I tried to lead the pack next to the bone fossil (as described on a youtube video) but that didn't work either.

In short, should I completely give up on trying to 55/Xx the raptor cave; and should I just run my W/Mo, my Ele/Xx, or my R/Xx to Rata since most of the suggested builds involve the Glad's, Silver Armor, Mist Form, or Escape?

-Thanks in advance, -DD

Spiritz

Forge Runner

Join Date: Apr 2007

DMFC

To get round them splitting you need to bodyblock them - there is better info on bodyblocking which you may need to search for ( im sure its covered with a diagram as well ), basically to bodyblock you need to get foes with righthand wall beside them and it usually helps to keep them from running off.
in the middle of raptor cave is big rock with broody behind it - when u pull make sure u pull from left side and walk backwards round the rock till all foes are infront of you ( still walking backwards ).It does take a bit of practice but it works on most foes in hm.This method is widely used especually by anyone using sliver

Marty Silverblade

Marty Silverblade

Administrator

Join Date: Jun 2006

I added the diagram to the sticky a while back.