No more QQing: PvE+PvP Events on Weekends

Snow Bunny

Snow Bunny

Alcoholic From Yale

Join Date: Jul 2007

Strong Foreign Policy [sFp]

I looked, didn't find, please redirect if I'm in error.
Every weekend event that ANet puts on, there's some sort of QQing.

If it's EotN Reputation weekend, people will say "screw that, I'm going to do XYZ"
If it's GvG Champ Title weekend, people will say "PvPers always getting favored by ANet!!!!"


Glaring solution: 2 Event Weekends.
It shouldn't be that hard; I'm no computer programmer but it can't be much more work than changing every 1 in some code to a 2.
So, for next week for instance, we'd have Double Lockpick drops w/ increased Lucky/Unlucky and Double Fame weekend. You slake the thirst of both camps.

MithranArkanere

MithranArkanere

Underworld Spelunker

Join Date: Nov 2006

wikipedia.org/wiki/Vigo

Heraldos de la Llama Oscura [HLO]

E/

The PvX will say: I can't be in both places at the same time, you force us to choose!

Damian979

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: May 2008

Unfortunately, if you look back over the history of a great majority of threads in this forum, there is always a QQ over something. Quite a few people will whine about anything and everything, they will make up things to whine about, and when they run out of things, they will whine about not having anything to whine about.

Hodgie

Hodgie

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Nov 2006

On A Chair

Rise Of Corruption

Mo/

Mithran said it. Even though i do like the idea, some really annoying gw players (i.e.90% of them) will start QQ'ing that they are being forced to chose.

Divine Slaya

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Sep 2005

Young Money Merger [YM]

Mo/

There will always be people complaining. It's impossible to please the entire GW community. It is mainly the PvErs that bitch and moan about the weekend events.

Johny bravo

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Aug 2006

[SoS]

N/

Its funny.

It used to be these events were special events held on random weekend in between major events. Then they turned into every weekend events. This lead to multiple QQing threads like this

ANET has run out of ideas for weekend events
ANET need to do this event again
ANET needs to stop doing these events they are ruinning the economy
ANET favors PVP with these events
ANET favors PVE with these events
ANET stop doing PVP event sI am tired of all the noob in HA
ANET stop doing X PVE event I had to grind that title so should they
Now
ANET needs to do PVP and PVE events every weekend.

I would laught if ANET just stopped their weekend event so people could appreciate what they bring to the game.

Shayne Hawke

Shayne Hawke

Departed from Tyria

Join Date: May 2007

Clan Dethryche [dth]

R/

/signed, except during full-blown festival events.

Kerwyn Nasilan

Kerwyn Nasilan

Forge Runner

Join Date: Aug 2007

WHERE DO YOU THINK

W/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Hodgie
Mithran said it. Even though i do like the idea, some really annoying gw players (i.e.90% of them) will start QQ'ing that they are being forced to chose.
Beat me to it.

Rakim B

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jun 2008

Mo/

I think the weekend events are just fine.

If it's something I won't participate in, I don't.

Div

Div

I like yumy food!

Join Date: Jan 2006

Where I can eat yumy food

Dead Alley [dR]

Mo/R

1. Not enough weekend events to do 2 at a time.
2. People will QQ regardless when they have to choose.
3. People will complain about excessive lag due to these events.
4. There will be a double rep+RA weekend and PvPers will still complain.
5. There will be a double lux/kurz+AB weekend and PvErs will still complain.

Not saying it's a bad idea, but people will find a way to QQ about it

Snow Bunny

Snow Bunny

Alcoholic From Yale

Join Date: Jul 2007

Strong Foreign Policy [sFp]

I understand the argument that people don't want to do 2 things at the same time, I suppose I simply meant this as a means to satisfy both camps.

I mean, this (Wintersday in July) weekend is a bit unique in that it is universally appealing, but I'm simply advocating this as something that from a technological standpoint, as well as a human resources standpoint, is really easy to do.


I suppose you're all right though.

Yawgmoth

Yawgmoth

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Apr 2005

This would be a bad change for a bunch of reasons:
*There are players who actually enjoy both. Like I do. I find the majority of events useful for me in a way. I wouldn't want to miss one just because of another one running at the same time.
*The point of some of PvP events is getting more people into PvP, even casuals. While the effect is not as big as it could be, it undeniably exists. Having a PvE event running at the same time would greatly reduce this effect.
*While in PvE there are some more possibilities, having a PvP weekend every weekend would probably mean stuff like Double Fame or Double Champions would appear twice as often. That would greatly affect the meaning of those titles.

IMHO It's fine as it is now.
Just keep the number of PvE and PvP events balanced and never run more than 2 PvE OR PvP events in a row.

Rhamia Darigaz

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Apr 2008

Quote:
Originally Posted by Snow Bunny
I mean, this (Wintersday in July) weekend is a bit unique in that it is universally appealing
i dont find it appealing

LukeD

LukeD

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: May 2007

England

Gettin Money Like We Just Found [OiL]

Mo/E

Quote:
Originally Posted by Damian979
Unfortunately, if you look back over the history of a great majority of threads in this forum, there is always a QQ over something. Quite a few people will whine about anything and everything, they will make up things to whine about, and when they run out of things, they will whine about not having anything to whine about.

So so so so so so true its annoying.

Jenn

Jenn

Resigned.

Join Date: Sep 2006

/signed if the majority of players in GW want it to be easier to get their titles
... (aside from the fact that maxed titles give us more favor, which, gasp, means people will bitch about meaningless ecto prices)

/notsigned if it's just to pacify QQ'ers trolling forums. These people aren't even the majority of the players in GW.

aNet just can't win

DarkNecrid

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Jul 2006

Anet chooses these in advanced based on a bunch of various factors. They probably couldn't (nor be willing) to do 2 at a time, for these factors.

Alex the Great

Alex the Great

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Feb 2007

America.....got a problem with that?

[Lite]

W/

I remember back when there wern't always weekend events.


people didn't QQ then, you all should be happy.

komma

komma

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Aug 2007

None

N/

guru is the QQ capitol of the intrawebz, shit this is a thread based on it....someone pass me a kleenex ffs.

DarkNecrid

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Jul 2006

Quote:
Originally Posted by komma
guru is the QQ capitol of the intrawebz, shit this is a thread based on it....someone pass me a kleenex ffs.
Team Quitter is far worse.

Div

Div

I like yumy food!

Join Date: Jan 2006

Where I can eat yumy food

Dead Alley [dR]

Mo/R

Quote:
Originally Posted by DarkNecrid
Team Quitter is far worse.
Surprisingly, not really anymore. QQ consist mostly of posts by randoms and posts saying how dead/bad/lame this game is. QQing only occurs when people still had hope for the game. Now we all know it's crap and not worth it.

HawkofStorms

HawkofStorms

Hall Hero

Join Date: Aug 2005

E/

/notsigned
People are morons and will QQ no matter what happens.

No reason for a.net to fold to the pressure of whiners.

MirkoTeran

MirkoTeran

Forge Runner

Join Date: Sep 2005

Slovenia

Scars Meadows [SMS]

Mo/

People will QQ no mater what ANet does or doesn't do.

Avarre

Avarre

Bubblegum Patrol

Join Date: Dec 2005

Singapore Armed Forces

This weekend, we are opening a fabulous weekend where for two days, you will be allowed to play Guild Wars!



You have no reason to complain unless, somewhere inside you, you don't like the game.

Lykan

Lykan

Forge Runner

Join Date: May 2005

StP

R/

/no ty

please we get enough lag on the weekends as it is.

DarkNecrid

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Jul 2006

Quote:
Originally Posted by Avarre
This weekend, we are opening a fabulous weekend where for two days, you will be allowed to play Guild Wars!



You have no reason to complain unless, somewhere inside you, you don't like the game.
Anet, if you read this forum secretly, please do this.

fireflyry

fireflyry

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jan 2007

New Zealand

A/D

Great idea in theory and it would work if events weren't directly linked to title grind.

Unfortunately they are and you can't be at two title grinds at the same time.

Rather than appreciate options most would actually focus on the fact they are missing out on attaining titles.

Cue QQ.

Shadowhaze

Shadowhaze

Nothing, tra la la?

Join Date: Oct 2007

Would be nice, but it doesn't matter to me really. If it's something I don't care about doing, I don't do it. Good point on it helping speed up the title process for some. For that reason, maybe they would never make it more than one event at a weekend then. Who knows...

lord of all tyria

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Mar 2007

It is impossible to reduce the amount of people whining about guild wars. Without recourse to some sort of cull.

romeus petrus

romeus petrus

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jun 2006

Urgoz Warren

Legion of Doom [LOD] Home of PWNZILLA http://PWNZILLA.guildlaunch.com

/notsigned

Weekend events generally speaking mean a large number of players are going to spend that weekend grinding for something.

I agree though, the community will QQ regardless.

MithranArkanere

MithranArkanere

Underworld Spelunker

Join Date: Nov 2006

wikipedia.org/wiki/Vigo

Heraldos de la Llama Oscura [HLO]

E/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Tyla
I'm a PvX player. Stop making sweeping statements.

In terms of this, I /signed it.
And A PvX player, and I'll say it.

I enter both weekends. Choosing is bad, it's wrong, making people choose in MMORPG it's a sin. That's Why I play Guild Wars, were I can re-do my character anytime, instead of stupid games like Ragaron Online, where re-making characters takes ages.

Choices were the source of the problem with Matrix 6.0.
You want to kill all the people connected to Matrix?
Let them live. Choices are bad.

Kanyatta

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jun 2006

Guildless, pm me

R/Mo

I'd prefer sticking to the current ~35 PvE events per year, ~12 PvP events, ~5 Festivals. PvE events help with grinding out stuff, PvP events try to encourage the PvE elitists to try PvP, but it usually ends up with every halfway decent player avoiding RA during double Glad and avoiding any chance of PuGing during double fame. Festivals, yeah, I deal with the lag, because I know people are enjoying them even if I don't really care.


Quote:
Originally Posted by DarkNecrid
Team Quitter is far worse.
90% of Team Quitter plays AoC now anyway and are completely blind to how buggy it is. The other 10% don't really care because they know the game is dead and not that much fun as it once was.