For the past hour I've tried several different builds and CAN NOT kill the stupid doppleganger in HM. And most of the time he died but then I died because of a stupid hex or something. Now that is ridiculous.
If the doppleganger (or any enemy for that matter) dies before you, then it should still count and not make you redo it. And with the doppleganger you can't even bring any heals because then he'll heal and you'll automatically lose. How that can be an exact double I don't know...I know I don't have that much health or energy.
Change doppleganger in HM
Tender Wolf
majikmajikmajik
first dont bring heals, 2nd try use ursan, foes cant use pve skills. if that doesnt work, bring attack hexes (not spell ones) and a block stance.
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[Morkai]
You're a Ranger no?
Take a pet.
If you're not on your Ranger, let us know which proffession it is and what the secondary is.
On my survivor Paragon all i took was Frenzy, Aggressive Refrain, TNTF! and Vicious attack. He went down in seconds. (This was NM though)
But yeah, either a pet, or PvE skills are the way to go.
Take a pet.
If you're not on your Ranger, let us know which proffession it is and what the secondary is.
On my survivor Paragon all i took was Frenzy, Aggressive Refrain, TNTF! and Vicious attack. He went down in seconds. (This was NM though)
But yeah, either a pet, or PvE skills are the way to go.
MagmaRed
Learn how to fight the Doppleganger. NM and HM are both quite easy, and wiki has info to help. Stop asking for the game to be made easier (when it is already easy) and start asking people how you can become better.
glacialphoenix
You don't need PvE skills to do it, although that should turn the trick for you. I ascended on my Mo/N before NF (and NM/HM) came out, back when everyone was camping out there QQing about how it was impossible to do. I forget what exactly I did for HM, but as MagmaRed already mentioned, there are resources out there that give you advice. Why don't you use those instead?
Phoenix Tears
killing dopple is really piss easy, you just need only to bring skills with you, that you poersonally don't will use, that will take lots of time casting or won't help anyhow the dopple to defeat you and finish, the rest you do then with strong spike attacks, while the dopple is wasting its time with useless skills.
the KI of the dopple is really braindead, because the dopple uses ever first buff skills and sortalikes, before attack skills.
So put some skills, like osme useless nature spirits in your bar and skills, that will cause to increase the cast time of skills or so and then spam the dopple with attack skills, like Double Shot, Tripple Shot, Keen Arrow or penetrating/Sunderign Attacks, whiel the dopples wastes al his time casting long 5 second nature spirits, that won't help him defeating you, or even buff your damage in the end, while he keeps casting more spirits, if xyou have more than 1 spirit in your bar ...
the KI of the dopple is really braindead, because the dopple uses ever first buff skills and sortalikes, before attack skills.
So put some skills, like osme useless nature spirits in your bar and skills, that will cause to increase the cast time of skills or so and then spam the dopple with attack skills, like Double Shot, Tripple Shot, Keen Arrow or penetrating/Sunderign Attacks, whiel the dopples wastes al his time casting long 5 second nature spirits, that won't help him defeating you, or even buff your damage in the end, while he keeps casting more spirits, if xyou have more than 1 spirit in your bar ...
toastgodsupreme
OMG NERF THE DOPPLE!!!!
Yeah, except for the fact that it's the EASIEST FIGHT IN THE ENTIRE GAME.
/Me = Signet of Midnight + Empathy (Or if you're too lazy to get an elite, Distortion + Empathy)
/A = DAGGERS! (Dopple doesn't use daggers and thus can't use dagger skills.)
Bleh, I could ramble on ALL the ways to kill the Dopple, but no, no nerf is needed. Not before, not now, not EVER.
Be smarter than the game, don't ask the devs to dumb the game down.
Yeah, except for the fact that it's the EASIEST FIGHT IN THE ENTIRE GAME.
/Me = Signet of Midnight + Empathy (Or if you're too lazy to get an elite, Distortion + Empathy)
/A = DAGGERS! (Dopple doesn't use daggers and thus can't use dagger skills.)
Bleh, I could ramble on ALL the ways to kill the Dopple, but no, no nerf is needed. Not before, not now, not EVER.
Be smarter than the game, don't ask the devs to dumb the game down.
Trenixz
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Originally Posted by toastgodsupreme
A = DAGGERS! (Dopple doesn't use daggers and thus can't use dagger skills.)
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DarkFlame
How is this a suggestion? Its already in-game. The Hard Mode button, just don't click it.
RavagerOfDreams
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Originally Posted by Trenixz
Actually, the doppelganger can use his axe to perform any melee attack skill, including dagger and scythe skills.
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take Ursan
srsly........srsly
zwei2stein
Guess they are right about threads whose author is TW ...
Engage
SS+Price of Failure+Enfeeble given that you can go /N.
Infectious
[frenzy][dwarven stab][drunken mas][ursan blessing]
WTF those dont count towards 12 char bullshit?
WTF those dont count towards 12 char bullshit?
I pwnd U
Take all spirits and then just hit the guy with your bow from afar. It is full of win.
Tender Wolf
I used Retribution and didn't attack, I used pet only skills, and no matter what it didn't work.
What I'm saying is if you kill the dopple that should be it. If you are hexed to death but die after the dopple is dead then it shouldn't make you fail.
What I'm saying is if you kill the dopple that should be it. If you are hexed to death but die after the dopple is dead then it shouldn't make you fail.
Aldric
HM Doppelganger is fairly simple to kill in 20 secs.
Take 20-25secs worth of long cast time skills - Nature or Binding Rituals
Take Burning Arrow + Apply Poison
Cast AP before you step on final stone then BA it to death while it pisses around casting useless skills.
It also doesnt use PvE skills so just take Ursan and it dies in about 15secs
Take 20-25secs worth of long cast time skills - Nature or Binding Rituals
Take Burning Arrow + Apply Poison
Cast AP before you step on final stone then BA it to death while it pisses around casting useless skills.
It also doesnt use PvE skills so just take Ursan and it dies in about 15secs
Infectious
Apparently he also refuses to use frenzy.....
Darkobra
The doppleganger is perfect as it is. If you're really struggling, use Ursan. I just went for a Sandstorm/Eruption/Ward Against Melee build, moved out of his AoE and let him blindly try to attack me and kill himself.
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[DE]
You're a ranger, why would you have a hex on your bar in the first place?
Options
1. Use Ursan
2. Pet Bar with all Pet Attacks
3. Spirit Spam - 7 spirits, kill him while he wastes 35~ seconds putting them all down
4. Cripshot - honorable 1v1
Options
1. Use Ursan
2. Pet Bar with all Pet Attacks
3. Spirit Spam - 7 spirits, kill him while he wastes 35~ seconds putting them all down
4. Cripshot - honorable 1v1
LukeD
URSAN+ Summon + other crap == GG
i beat him 1st time with ursan lol use it bfore its gone GO GO
i beat him 1st time with ursan lol use it bfore its gone GO GO
Marverick
Option 5: go /A and take [Great Dwarf Armor][Golden Phoenix Strike][Death Blossom][Moebius Strike]
since he can't use PvE skills he can't start the chain
since he can't use PvE skills he can't start the chain
DarkNecrid
Scourge Healing
Take a bunch of sacrifice skills and Awaken the Blood
He'll use Awaken the Blood, you use Scourge Healing on him, he goes booom.
If you're a Ranger, just take Awaken the Blood & sacrifice skills. He will kill himself or get close enough.
Take a bunch of sacrifice skills and Awaken the Blood
He'll use Awaken the Blood, you use Scourge Healing on him, he goes booom.
If you're a Ranger, just take Awaken the Blood & sacrifice skills. He will kill himself or get close enough.
~nymph~
The doppelganger doesn't use frenzy in HM. Like others said, if you are playing ranger just bring nature rituals. I did that and it was pretty easy. I brought a couple nature rituals, apply poison and burning arrow. Took it down before it finished casting the spirits.
Div
Going to campfire and getting builds on how to beat it instead of complaining about a piss-easy mission is a better idea.
Tender Wolf
For the flamers that keep giving me builds and such, that's not the purpose of this thread. The purpose is an idea to change the way enemies are in HM.
If you kill a foe in a mission and then you die, it should still count instead of having to redo the mission. That happened to be at least 10 times today.
Now I finally did manage to get this done but the purpose of this thread was not to discuss builds as so many are doing.
If you kill a foe in a mission and then you die, it should still count instead of having to redo the mission. That happened to be at least 10 times today.
Now I finally did manage to get this done but the purpose of this thread was not to discuss builds as so many are doing.
Dr.Jones
its sad that you were not able to find these wiki pages.
http://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/Augury_Rock
http://guildwars.wikia.com/wiki/Guid...g_doppelganger
both give hm answers as to how to do it. also there are lots of people who have gotten the Legendary Guardian title i have 1 and am planing my way though the other 2.
http://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/Augury_Rock
http://guildwars.wikia.com/wiki/Guid...g_doppelganger
both give hm answers as to how to do it. also there are lots of people who have gotten the Legendary Guardian title i have 1 and am planing my way though the other 2.
MirkoTeran
If anything doppelganger needs a buff in HM. So do a lot of other enemies.
Mesmer in Need
The game won't change for you, adapt or lose.
MisterB
Another Hard mode is too hard thread.
Any time the party dies, you lose the mission. When you die, you are defeated, and you lose. Why should this mission reward failure when the goal is to defeat your opponent in a duel? Change your build. Try wiki, campfire, or the doppelganger with all classes thread next time.
Any time the party dies, you lose the mission. When you die, you are defeated, and you lose. Why should this mission reward failure when the goal is to defeat your opponent in a duel? Change your build. Try wiki, campfire, or the doppelganger with all classes thread next time.
isildorbiafra
The doppelganger will always use his/ her skills from left to right. Bring a build thats requires a specific order to function; but dont arange them in that order; or simply take ursan and load your skillbar with rubish.....like skills that require a shield when you have no shield equiped etc.etc.; or better yet skills that when used weaken or damage the user. Look along that line for your profession....and you'll find out that the doppelganger is a whimp.
Coverticus
3 skills - Pain Inverter, Assassin Support and Ursan. PI+Sin and you won't have time to get into Ursan 
distilledwill
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sorry tender, just saw you don't want builds.
sorry tender, just saw you don't want builds.
Phoenix Tears
the fact is..you DIED.. if that occurs now before your target is also dead, nor not, plays absolutely no role. The fact that you died plays the role and even that you succesfully killed your foe, its not important, because you are dead !!!
you have to kill your foes, without dieing, only then counts the success !!
sheesh, so hard to understand ? So work all games, your success counts only, when you survive also.
learn to live with it
you have to kill your foes, without dieing, only then counts the success !!
sheesh, so hard to understand ? So work all games, your success counts only, when you survive also.
learn to live with it
quickmonty
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Originally Posted by Tender Wolf
For the flamers that keep giving me builds and such, that's not the purpose of this thread. The purpose is an idea to change the way enemies are in HM.
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For once I agree with Phoenix. You die you lose! Doppleganger is way to easy, even in hard mode.
Unreal Havoc
I'm assuming you are a Ranger going by the profile to the left. If so then go Assassin secondary (assuming you have already ascended elsewhere) use this:
http://www.pvxwiki.com/wiki/User:Sel...leganger_Spike
Just switch the attributes about a bit to suit your proffession.
http://www.pvxwiki.com/wiki/User:Sel...leganger_Spike
Just switch the attributes about a bit to suit your proffession.
I pwnd U
Since she doesn't want builds... /notsigned because Dopple is easy enough to kill without dying even in HM
Darkobra
Well, if you managed to kill it and throw the help you're getting back in people's faces, I don't see any reason to agree with what you're saying.
Cebe
This is a rant, and not really a suggestion.
Perhaps you could try reading: Guide to Defeating Doppleganger?
If further aid is required please try posting in the Prophecies Explorer's League.
If this thread is really supposed to be a suggestion on allowing a mission to be completed even if you die please re-post, with a more obvious title and content, as this thread has gone to the dogs.
/Locked.
Perhaps you could try reading: Guide to Defeating Doppleganger?
If further aid is required please try posting in the Prophecies Explorer's League.
If this thread is really supposed to be a suggestion on allowing a mission to be completed even if you die please re-post, with a more obvious title and content, as this thread has gone to the dogs.
/Locked.