Upgrade - Worth the wait?

Elder III

Elder III

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Jan 2007

Ohio

I Will Never Join Your Guild (NTY)

R/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Quaker
Or, to look at it another way, most games run out of GPU power long before they run out of CPU power.
QFT

(as long as you have a modern dual core or better CPU that is)

Tamuril elansar

Tamuril elansar

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jul 2007

N/

nehalem is mostly a quadcore, and programming scaled to quadcore is hard and takes more time than duocore.

Brianna

Brianna

Insane & Inhumane

Join Date: Feb 2006

None the less, this doesn't mean that CPU's are no longer being made for game type performance?

On the new platform, I am sure they will make CPU's more geared towards gaming in due time (as I logically expected) so therefore we still do have something to look forwards to in my eyes.

Tarun

Tarun

Technician's Corner Moderator

Join Date: Jan 2006

The TARDIS

http://www.lunarsoft.net/ http://forums.lunarsoft.net/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Teh [prefession]-zorz
Sure thing...

"Nehalem is about improving HPC, Database, and virtualization performance, and much less about gaming performance"

Or if you want whole article...

http://www.anandtech.com/weblog/showpost.aspx?i=480
Thanks for that! Interesting read

Snograt

Snograt

rattus rattus

Join Date: Jan 2006

London, UK GMT??0 ??1hr DST

[GURU]GW [wiki]GW2

R/

Interesting-zorz

Lord Sojar

Lord Sojar

The Fallen One

Join Date: Dec 2005

Oblivion

Irrelevant

Mo/Me

Quote:
Originally Posted by Teh [prefession]-zorz
Sure thing...

"Nehalem is about improving HPC, Database, and virtualization performance, and much less about gaming performance"

Or if you want whole article...

http://www.anandtech.com/weblog/showpost.aspx?i=480
That article isn't well written, first off.

Secondly, some of the information is misleading as DX10/10.1 games use some of the same technology that HPCs use, and matrix calculations (database much?) will be used in the upcoming raytracing games. Soooo...... Nehalem is worth the wait.

That article also neglects to mention turbo mode (a must for gamers, go go 386 days!), Quickpath (ala AMD's Hypertransport which did worlds to improve gaming performance), and the IMC (integrated memory controller). While Nehalem wasn't built specifically to improve gaming performance (what CPU is?), it will still give a hefty boost to it; just not as much as it will to the markets you mention.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Tamuril elansar
nehalem is mostly a quadcore, and programming scaled to quadcore is hard and takes more time than duocore.
Not with Intel's new compilers and C systems. Simply put, Intel has all flanks covered. Nehalem isn't just a new CPU, it is an entirely new way of doing things. Multi threaded programming is here, and now.



Oh, and how we all love Hyperthreading.... *drools*

Hannes

Hannes

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Oct 2007

http://www.blowupdoll.co.za/

Band of Buds [BUD] (Officer)

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Mmmm just read something that made me wonder :/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Intel Nehalem
A 2.93 GHz Nehalem "Bloomfield" system has been used to run a 3DMark Vantage benchmark and gave a CPU score of 17,966.
The 2.66 GHz variant scores 16,294.
A 2.4 GHz Core 2 Duo E6600 scores 4,300
When I ran 3DMark Vantage, I pushed my little Q6600 to only 2.60 Ghz (from 2.4) and got a CPU score of 28,311 in "Performance" mode, and a CPU score of 31,763 in "Entry" mode.
And it scores more than the 2.93 Ghz Nehalem version? How did that happen? *scratches head* RAHJA! Halp wiff dis pl0x. lol. maybe you could explain in more detail how they go about testing this? Maybe I missed something out.


Anyways, back on topic...

I've decided to keep my system as is for the next year or so.
All I've changed was: got the GTX260 XXX Edition, 1020w PSU, 26" LCD, and will get a decent cpu cooler this weekend. Oh ya, also got a new mouse (Razer Lachesis) and new speakers lol (Logitech G51)

snaek

snaek

Forge Runner

Join Date: Mar 2006

N/

well...

i dun see any reason -not- to wait

theres no good games comin out rite now?

sure theres sc2 and d3...but i doubt either of those will demand serious machines

theres fallout3...
but thats not for another month, so u could at least wait another month or 2 at least

so really? wut r u reasons for wanting to upgrade -now-?
is it jus so u can say u have a pwnage machine?

Hannes

Hannes

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Oct 2007

http://www.blowupdoll.co.za/

Band of Buds [BUD] (Officer)

N/

Quote:
Originally Posted by snaek
well...

i dun see any reason -not- to wait

theres no good games comin out rite now?

sure theres sc2 and d3...but i doubt either of those will demand serious machines

theres fallout3...
but thats not for another month, so u could at least wait another month or 2 at least

so really? wut r u reasons for wanting to upgrade -now-?
is it jus so u can say u have a pwnage machine?
Mmm no?


If you read up, you would've seen the following message somewhere:
Quote:
Originally Posted by Hannes
This pc is a bit more than a year old now... I try to upgrade every 12-18 months lol. I don't smoke anymore or do drugs or stuff like that, so I spoil myself with a new PC. Like a xmas or b-day gift 2 urself

snaek

snaek

Forge Runner

Join Date: Mar 2006

N/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Hannes
Mmm no?


If you read up, you would've seen the following message somewhere:
but thats wut i mean...
ur upgrading jus for teh sake of upgrading

not to be able to play specific games at specific settings?

Hannes

Hannes

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Oct 2007

http://www.blowupdoll.co.za/

Band of Buds [BUD] (Officer)

N/

Quote:
Originally Posted by snaek
but thats wut i mean...
ur upgrading jus for teh sake of upgrading

not to be able to play specific games at specific settings?

Yeah... That's what I've been doing for the past few years now... lol


EDIT: And I'd say "YES", I had to upgrade the gfx. Ever tried playing Crysis or Assassins Creed at 1920x1200 on a 26" lcd with a 8600gts? is not fun

snaek

snaek

Forge Runner

Join Date: Mar 2006

N/

lol...well then i'd prolly only upgarde when cool new stuffs come out

like single core -> dual core
or dx9 -> dx10
crt -> widescreen lcd
etc

but im not even really sure if dual core -> quard core is really worth the upgrade unless its really needed for specific games

but thats jus personal opinion

Age

Age

Hall Hero

Join Date: Jul 2005

California Canada/BC

STG Administrator

Mo/

I like your game pad it would make playing Monk a lot easier.Nice set up btw.

Lord Sojar

Lord Sojar

The Fallen One

Join Date: Dec 2005

Oblivion

Irrelevant

Mo/Me

Nehalem isn't just a quad core. It features all types of enhancements that will make it future proof, and far more powerful than current generation stuff.