Dervish with sword?

Namiren

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jan 2008

Kamadan Eu/Am Districts

Rt/

17 Jul 2008 at 22:28 - 1

Hi guys, i was thinking on a build because i really like the /black elite sunspear armor + colossal scimitar combo/ so here is my build:

[Dragon Slash][Silverwing Slash][Galrath Slash][Distracting Blow]["For great justice][Signet of Pious Light][Vital Boon][Faithful Intervention]
11 Sword Mastery 8 Earth Prayers 11+1 Mysticism
What u think?

Moonlit Azure

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Nov 2007

17 Jul 2008 at 22:32 - 2

I don't know why you wouldn't use a scythe. They're so powerful in the hands of a dervish.

joshuarodger

Unbanned

Join Date: Jan 2008

Trinity of the Ascended [ToA] -- IGN: Swirly

Mo/

17 Jul 2008 at 22:35 - 3

no IAS, no IMS, no scythe, too much self healing. all bad
you didn't even put 12 in sword mast. you don't get the full damage of any melee weapon unless you have at least 12 in that attribute.

.Cookie.

Academy Page

Join Date: Apr 2007

17 Jul 2008 at 22:36 - 4

Agreed , don't run a Dervish with sword, its horrible. And your bar is even more horrible. It has no IAS , No deep wound , average dps.

obsidian ectoplasm

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jan 2008

17 Jul 2008 at 22:58 - 5

Agreed with the above's

I take that you understand scythes are better you are just using sword because you like the look.

Id take out skill #6 and #7

If you really feel you need a 2nd heal maybe put your earth prayer points into

wind and use natural healing, But I don't think that is really necessary

I would put in Heart Of Fury for an IAS

Put sword to 12

and maybe swap some of those sword attacks for other attacks that apply conditions

kunta

Academy Page

Join Date: Jun 2007

Mystic Spartans

W/Mo

17 Jul 2008 at 23:05 - 6

I play a dervish with a sword all the time. I personally think its way funner than with a scythe. Dont diss him because he like to play guild wars his way instead of yours.

RavagerOfDreams

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Dec 2007

somewhere over the rainbow....

17 Jul 2008 at 23:08 - 7

You need a IMS of some sorts if your going to be using a sword. [heart of fury] would be good. Would also suggest using [sever artery] + [gash].

joshuarodger

Unbanned

Join Date: Jan 2008

Trinity of the Ascended [ToA] -- IGN: Swirly

Mo/

17 Jul 2008 at 23:23 - 8

Quote:

Originally Posted by kunta

I play a dervish with a sword all the time. I personally think its way funner than with a scythe. Dont diss him because he like to play guild wars his way instead of yours. he asked for advice on his build. that's what he's getting. i also tried derv with sword and it was nowhere near the dps and big pretty numbers i see with a scythe.

Alex the Great

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Feb 2007

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[Lite]

17 Jul 2008 at 23:23 - 9

Quote:

Originally Posted by kunta

I play a dervish with a sword all the time. I personally think its way funner than with a scythe. Dont diss him because he like to play guild wars his way instead of yours.
if he is going to ping us a crappy build, we will tell him it is crappy.

and funner isn't a word.

theonetheonlybruce

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Nov 2007

Fuzzies Anonymous [Fuzy]

Mo/

17 Jul 2008 at 23:45 - 10

[ursan]????????????????? anyone

obsidian ectoplasm

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jan 2008

17 Jul 2008 at 23:58 - 11

Quote:

Originally Posted by theonetheonlybruce

[ursan]????????????????? anyone

Your build is more fail then the the whole idea of derv with a sword

theonetheonlybruce

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Nov 2007

Fuzzies Anonymous [Fuzy]

Mo/

18 Jul 2008 at 00:10 - 12

Quote:

Originally Posted by obsidian ectoplasm

Your build is more fail then the the whole idea of derv with a sword ok dont wanna get into a flame fest here but you must admit if you like [ursan] or not that is a solution to his problem and the easiest at that

isamu kurosawa

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Nov 2005

United Kingdom

Me/

18 Jul 2008 at 00:14 - 13

I have run a sword derv in general pve areas for fun and to add challenge while getting the samurai style using monument armour and a katana/tengu sword.

As anything goes in normal mode pve if your playing with heroes why not? Although i did run a VoS sword build.

[build;OgGjQxVJbOIWADS5NKubvlXBAA]

Of course in elite areas or HM a decent bar works best. But games are for fun.

Tyla

Emo Goth Italics

Join Date: Sep 2006

18 Jul 2008 at 00:17 - 14

This is a Dervish forum, not an Ursan forum. We are discussing Dervish skills and builds. Not Ursan tactics.

As for the build, it would be more of a joke based build, but...

[dragon slash]["save yourselves!"][brawling headbutt][barbarous slice][gash][heart of fury]["for great justice!"][resurrection signet]

For the style!

Steps_Descending

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Apr 2007

IN my pocket plane. Obviously!

Little Tom's Pocket Plane [THom]

Me/Mo

18 Jul 2008 at 00:32 - 15

Quote:

Originally Posted by theonetheonlybruce

[ursan]????????????????? anyone

Quote: Originally Posted by obsidian ectoplasm Your build is more fail then the the whole idea of derv with a sword /agree with obsidian. Keep UB away from average/bad player, let them get better before giving the easy way.

Quote: Originally Posted by Namiren

Hi guys, i was thinking on a build because i really like the /black elite sunspear armor + colossal scimitar combo/ so here is my build: I'll agree a sword look beter than a scythe. You tried a staff? Godly.

Quote:

[Dragon Slash][Silverwing Slash][Galrath Slash][Distracting Blow]["For great justice][Signet of Pious Light][Vital Boon][Faithful Intervention]
11 Sword Mastery 8 Earth Prayers 11+1 Mysticism
What u think? As for the build, here's what I'd try :
Silverwing or Galrath -for- Wirlwing attack (sp?) (SunSp skill), they should almost recharge each other
Distracting -for- savage slash (add dmg for interupt)
Vital boon -for- Increase attack speed, Wind prayer have some good one (a certain IAS+IMS stance comes to mind)
Signet -for- free slot : utility dependign on need.
(I don't think you will need too much survivability
STATS : change Earth prayer into Wind,
-1 from wind and mystism -to- 12 sword (conplete with rune to keep 12 mystism)

If that doesnt work, you could try going into tactic for melee defence and use Vow of Silence for magic defence, splitting your stats with Sword, Mystism, tactic.
Or grab Ebon Dust Aura for disruption with the SunSp AoE attack, that would make a more defensive build but it MAY be needed for some places.

EDIT: seech that was a longer post than I expected

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tyla

As for the build, it would be more of a joke based build, but...
For the style!

Just funny how you propose SY for a joke build... This might actually work with high enough title, or not work at all and SY is pointless...

Magikarp

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Nov 2007

[HAWK]

18 Jul 2008 at 01:16 - 16

honestly, just use a scythe unless you're just goofing off.. in which case i have a hilarious build for you!

Avatar of Lyssa
Eternal Aura
Heart of Fury
Barbarous Slash
Gash
Optional attack or Utility
Savage or Utility
SY! or res

have fun

(only fun though.. this kills.. but like.. not fer sereeuss)

Namiren

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jan 2008

Kamadan Eu/Am Districts

Rt/

18 Jul 2008 at 09:48 - 17

TY the replys guys, and yes I'm currently [Ursan blessing] with a sword

the Puppeteer

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Apr 2007

18 Jul 2008 at 10:16 - 18

[heart of fury] or [Pious Fury]

isamu kurosawa

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Nov 2005

United Kingdom

Me/

18 Jul 2008 at 12:58 - 19

Quote:

Originally Posted by Namiren

TY the replys guys, and yes I'm currently [Ursan blessing] with a sword

So i did this build for the ursan nerf. One ideas:

[For great justice] + [silverwing slash] + [galrath slash] + [Dragon Slash] + [silverwing slash] + [galrath slash] + [dragon slash] etc... is a big dps i think.

And you are true I'd need an IAS skill ^^ [For great justice] + [Dragon Slash] + [Dragon Slash] + [Dragon Slash] + [Dragon Slash] + [Dragon Slash] + [Dragon Slash]

Is better DPS

keep in mind you get 1adren for actually hitting as well. So DS at 12 gives a total of 5 adren.

Steps_Descending

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Apr 2007

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Little Tom's Pocket Plane [THom]

Me/Mo

18 Jul 2008 at 13:11 - 20

Quote:

Originally Posted by isamu kurosawa

keep in mind you get 1adren for actually hitting as well. So DS at 12 gives a total of 5 adren. I think Kurosawa just said the thing that had to be said... NOw that I think of it, DSlash really is stupid.

Tyla

Emo Goth Italics

Join Date: Sep 2006

18 Jul 2008 at 15:45 - 21

Quote:

Originally Posted by Steps

Just funny how you propose SY for a joke build... This might actually work with high enough title, or not work at all and SY is pointless... And you're telling me running a Dervish with a sword would be considerable for a serious build? The PvE skills are more of a "Why not?" sort of thing, and seriously; the only time I would use a weapon other than a scythe on a Dervish is using EDA Spear.

As for it not working with a high enough title, at rank 1 SY is extremely powerful.

N1ghtstalker

Forge Runner

Join Date: Dec 2007

18 Jul 2008 at 15:48 - 22

[wounding strike] anyone?
you can go D/W for ["save yourselves!"] but that's it

Tyla

Emo Goth Italics

Join Date: Sep 2006

18 Jul 2008 at 15:50 - 23

^
Please read the title. Kthxbai.

Steps_Descending

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Apr 2007

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Little Tom's Pocket Plane [THom]

Me/Mo

18 Jul 2008 at 17:20 - 24

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tyla

And you're telling me running a Dervish with a sword would be considerable for a serious build? The PvE skills are more of a "Why not?" sort of thing, and seriously; the only time I would use a weapon other than a scythe on a Dervish is using EDA Spear.

As for it not working with a high enough title, at rank 1 SY is extremely powerful. Spear? You sure you don't mean bow?

Anyway, if by serious you mean "usuable and decently efficient in late game area in HM" the only sword build I can see would be a stance+VoSilence tank, which is either not too efficient or takes 2-3 monks maintaining bonds (aka heavy resources for the effect, tought 3 infini prot bonders + 2 55 derv could be interesting to try for a 2 player team)

As for SY, I meant if you have a 1-2 sec gap between 3 sec SY, it's not really worth maintaining, is it not? Even if the gap is less important, It's not worth bottering to maintain in my mind. Not saying it won't add anything to a team, just that, if you ask me, SY is boring to spam, I'd rather use a less powerful build when I can than spam a 3 sec shout.

Magikarp

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Nov 2007

[HAWK]

18 Jul 2008 at 17:36 - 25

Quote:

Originally Posted by Steps_Descending

Spear? You sure you don't mean bow?

Anyway, if by serious you mean "usuable and decently efficient in late game area in HM" the only sword build I can see would be a stance+VoSilence tank, which is either not too efficient or takes 2-3 monks maintaining bonds (aka heavy resources for the effect, tought 3 infini prot bonders + 2 55 derv could be interesting to try for a 2 player team)

As for SY, I meant if you have a 1-2 sec gap between 3 sec SY, it's not really worth maintaining, is it not? Even if the gap is less important, It's not worth bottering to maintain in my mind. Not saying it won't add anything to a team, just that, if you ask me, SY is boring to spam, I'd rather use a less powerful build when I can than spam a 3 sec shout. no.. he means spear..

isamu kurosawa

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Nov 2005

United Kingdom

Me/

18 Jul 2008 at 17:41 - 26

Quote:

Originally Posted by Steps_Descending

Snow Bunny

Alcoholic From Yale

Join Date: Jul 2007

Strong Foreign Policy [sFp]

18 Jul 2008 at 17:46 - 27

Eh....

As long as you have 12 in swordsmanship, you have an IAS, and you have the armor+weapon combo look to justify it, go ahead.

Dslash is a good skill if only because you're losing out on a lot of damage from your scythe, so you may as well take the maximum damage a sword skill will allow.

Steps_Descending

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Apr 2007

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Little Tom's Pocket Plane [THom]

Me/Mo

18 Jul 2008 at 18:03 - 28

Quote:

Originally Posted by isamu kurosawa

If you are running derv primary then a spear is more effective. You can easily spread extra conditions like long lasting bleeding and use more spammable attack skills for even more blind with decent damage.

With Dslash there should be no downtime of SY till fgj runs out anyway. and you can always take an orders. Thank for the clarification and... Yeah you're right, now that I think of it I need to get back that old Sy build i had. Either I had a pretty bad playstyle problem or I made a seriously bad build...

Magikarp

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Nov 2007

[HAWK]

18 Jul 2008 at 18:05 - 29

Quote:

Originally Posted by Steps_Descending

Thank for the clarification and... Yeah you're right, now that I think of it I need to get back that old Sy build i had. Either I had a pretty bad playstyle problem or I made a seriously bad build... at least you can admit it, which is a good thing!