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Jenn

Resigned.

Join Date: Sep 2006

19 Jul 2008 at 22:48 - 1

I miss the old dyes. Alot. The new ones look like shit - they have this smeared, opaque glossiness to them that just gets rid of all detail. I also miss being able to store dye combos, and I miss how the old dyes look better mixed.

Bring back the old dyes, but keep the dye preview window!
Please?

I'd only reject my idea if it took enormous amounts of work for anet, because this isn't critical... just nice ^_^

(I tried finding another thread regarding this, but search results turned up empty Oo.)

Proofs that new dye washes out pretty detail!

Diddy bow

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Oct 2006

Jawsome!!!!!!!!!!!

looking for one :p

A/D

19 Jul 2008 at 22:49 - 2

/signed

I like both the old and the new dyes and considering they are still in the game it cant be too hard to bring them back right...?

Gift3d

Forge Runner

Join Date: Feb 2007

Las Vegas

Enraged Whiny Carebears [oR]

W/E

19 Jul 2008 at 22:59 - 3

/signed

Shortly after nightfall's release with the new dye sistem, i made a suggestion for this on a different forum. I got someone from ANet to respond, and they said "it isn't possible to revert back to the same old dyes". Now i don't know if they were just bluffing on that or not, but if it's impossible to do a total revert, then at least do another dye update that's similar to the old ones!

komma

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Aug 2007

None

N/

19 Jul 2008 at 23:08 - 4

whats done is done, deal w it....with the old dyes erryone was qq'ing oh the colours arent bright enough...so yall got what ya wanted..QQ..QQ....QQ

obsidian ectoplasm

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jan 2008

19 Jul 2008 at 23:15 - 5

I wasent around for the old dye

couldent they i dunno just make a whole new dye system better then teh current and the old one?

Monk Gsb

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Oct 2006

England

Mo/Me

20 Jul 2008 at 00:15 - 6

Quote:

Originally Posted by obsidian ectoplasm

couldent they i dunno just make a whole new dye system better then teh current and the old one?

its called guild wars 2

DarkGanni

Forge Runner

Join Date: Mar 2006

Malta

[CuTe]

E/

20 Jul 2008 at 00:41 - 7

Voted - Bring back the old dyes!

Old dye colors were very nice, there are some colors I can't reproduce with the current system, also that armor Illfated has shown is one of my fav, I would buy it if the dye colors weren't ruined on it.

The game went through so many changes that we can call it Frankenstein Wars, I highly doubt they can't bring the old dyes back.

The usual 2 cents from a grumpy player

- Ganni

-Lotus-

Jungle Guide

Join Date: May 2008

20 Jul 2008 at 01:10 - 8

can you post a picture that isnt black. black dye has always killed all the detail of the armor...

Shayne Hawke

Departed from Tyria

Join Date: May 2007

Clan Dethryche [dth]

R/

20 Jul 2008 at 03:04 - 9

They don't necessarily need to bring back the old dye colors, but they probably should fix how some shading was changed, because some things just look bad now.

Dr.Jones

Banned

Join Date: Jul 2008

20 Jul 2008 at 03:26 - 10

i like the new dyes though i would like to see the detail of the old ones return and same with the colors. i would also like to point out that black dye isnt everything.

Jenn

Resigned.

Join Date: Sep 2006

20 Jul 2008 at 03:27 - 11

Quote:

Originally Posted by komma

whats done is done, deal w it....with the old dyes erryone was qq'ing oh the colours arent bright enough...so yall got what ya wanted..QQ..QQ....QQ

I don't remember people QQ'ing about the old dyes... at all O_O :<

@joshuarodger: I cancelled my subscription on being an elite guru so I don't get a sig anymoar

Kanyatta

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jun 2006

Guildless, pm me

R/Mo

20 Jul 2008 at 03:59 - 12

Quote:

Originally Posted by komma

whats done is done, deal w it....with the old dyes erryone was qq'ing oh the colours arent bright enough...so yall got what ya wanted..QQ..QQ....QQ

It wasn't everyone that wanted dyes switched. I agree with you on "what's done is done", but seriously, don't assume everyone wanted it changed, because that's not true.

Also, using the phrase QQ more than once in a post should be a bannable offense.

Personally, I don't think the Anet employee that said its not possible anymore was lying, and I also don't think it's that much of a game-breaker.

/notsigned

pamelf

Forge Runner

Join Date: Aug 2006

Australia

Lost Templars [LoTe]

Me/Mo

20 Jul 2008 at 04:14 - 13

Keep vibrancy of new, but bring back dye remover and the detail if the old.

I'd also like all armours to dye the same with the same colour. That way we could mix and match armours without the colour combos looking retarded.

HawkofStorms

Hall Hero

Join Date: Aug 2005

E/

20 Jul 2008 at 05:14 - 14

It's too late. What if somebody likes a particular color/detail of the NEW system. If you revert back to the old system, you just create the same problem all over again, people who have stuff dyed under the old system and will want it back will be unable to.

So, even though I prefer the old system, getting rid of the current system won't really help. It will still create the same problem.

dilan155

Desert Nomad

Join Date: May 2007

living room

N/

20 Jul 2008 at 05:31 - 15

i think that the new dye is vibrant but it doesn't allow details to show like the old one did. i still like the old dye better
/signed

Charlotte the Harlot

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jan 2006

Bay Area

none

R/

20 Jul 2008 at 08:04 - 16

so long as its in addition to the new dyes I dont want those to go away either.

Proff

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jun 2007

20 Jul 2008 at 14:38 - 17

So that's why you needed the dye

/signed but... "I wasn't around for the "old dyes" so I'm clueless O_o"

MithranArkanere

Underworld Spelunker

Join Date: Nov 2006

wikipedia.org/wiki/Vigo

Heraldos de la Llama Oscura [HLO]

E/

20 Jul 2008 at 16:21 - 18

Whatever they do, the Dye system must be fixed. The current system has many issues:

- There are a lot of weapons that were dyable and no longer are, like the Clockwork staff.
- When you add 2 or more dyes, the base color of the texture gets mixed with the dyes and messes up the result: Silver+Gray+Necro armor: Dark green instead of Pale gray. Yellow+Silver+Ele armor: Khaki instead of Gold, you need to add GREEN to get gold.
And the thing goes on and on.

A11Eur0

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Apr 2005

W/

20 Jul 2008 at 22:28 - 19

Quote:

Originally Posted by Illfated Fat

I don't remember people QQ'ing about the old dyes... at all O_O :<

@joshuarodger: I cancelled my subscription on being an elite guru so I don't get a sig anymoar

WTS Gold Dye 2k

yeah..that was retarded.

Tender Wolf

Banned

Join Date: Jul 2007

All over Tyria, Cantha, & Elona

The Eternal Night Vanguard [TEN]

R/

20 Jul 2008 at 22:33 - 20

Well I wasn't into the game until the new dye system was released, but I can see your point. I've seen some people with armor that is still dyed from the old system and I must say that it does look better. And what's with the female mesmer Asuran armor? You dye it red and it turns orange. That's not right.

Yes, I agree that they should bring the old dye system back, but definately keep the dye preview window as that is a big help and is a money-saver in the end. If they don't want to add it for Guild Wars then perhaps for Gulid Wars 2. A new game doesn't have to mean a completely new dye system.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gift3d

I got someone from ANet to respond, and they said "it isn't possible to revert back to the same old dyes". Now i don't know if they were just bluffing on that or not, but if it's impossible to do a total revert, then at least do another dye update that's similar to the old ones!

Wow I wouldn't think it would be impossible to revert back but I know nothing about that sort of thing. But I do agree that there should be another dye update that's similar to the old ones if they can't revert.

Now, as for the people who like the current dye system, that leads to another idea - have two different dye sets, one like the old one and one of the current ones. That way the people who liked the old dyes can use them, and the people who prefer the new dyes can use them. That way everyone's happy. This would probably be better for Guild Wars 2 though. Or use the old system for Guild Wars 2 with the dye preview window.

Oh, and I forgot to mention, I am in favor of all dyes having the same effect on all armor. That way you can check one dye guide and know what it would look like on your armor even if it's a different profession or gender. And it would be easier to mix and match armors, which many people like to do.

Noel Hope

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Aug 2007

America

[SBP]

Mo/

23 Jul 2008 at 08:15 - 21

/signed

I miss the old dyes and dye remover especially.
Dye remover made the prettiest light colors.

The Evil Monkey

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jul 2006

1

E/

23 Jul 2008 at 08:24 - 22

I saw how black looks on my male necros 15k bonelace now and it is ugly.

/signed

Jetdoc

Hell's Protector

Join Date: Jul 2005

The Eyes of Texas [BEVO]

D/A

23 Jul 2008 at 13:54 - 23

The new Black dye is simply horrible, as it simply becomes a shader versus a true "color".

The new Red dye also isn't anywhere near as bright as the old Red dye, which hurts many of the color combinations out there.

Hyper.nl

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Oct 2006

Defending Fort Aspenwood

E/

23 Jul 2008 at 14:42 - 24

You have my vote; as long as the dye preview window is not getting axed.

(The dye preview already allowed me to get much more exotic combo's than any older system allowed.)

Yawgmoth

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Apr 2005

23 Jul 2008 at 18:24 - 25

/signed

Bring back both:
*Old dyes (especially Black was soooo much better, also old Silver was much better, now both are impossible to reproduce on most armors)
*and the good old mixing engine that determines the effect of a dye mix (current one is terribly bugged)

Just keep the preview window, it's the only good thing that came out of that update.

Valeria

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Oct 2005

Germany

PaRe

W/

23 Jul 2008 at 19:01 - 26

Quote:

whats done is done, deal w it....with the old dyes erryone was qq'ing oh the colours arent bright enough...so yall got what ya wanted..QQ..QQ....QQ

I still think the colors aren't bright enough!

If i try to dye my mesmer kurzick 15k aror yellow i can't get anything that looks even close to a bright yellow.

Or if i want a dark blue even blue +3*black wont do the job... it just looks grey and dull

Shadowmoon

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jun 2006

N/A

N/

23 Jul 2008 at 19:29 - 27

i really do miss dye remover, my fvorite dye combo was purple-blue-yellow-dye remover, best necro blood red in game. i've tryed reproducing it with red with black and other combo, never gotten close.

cosyfiep

are we there yet?

Join Date: Dec 2005

in a land far far away

guild? I am supposed to have a guild?

Rt/

23 Jul 2008 at 21:41 - 28

bring back dye remover!!
and 2 black dyes DO NOT make blue really....if I add black to a mix its SHOULD make it darker ---not lighter, whoever came up with that should have to go to art school and relearn ....or better yet take some classes in paint mixing and see what REALLY happens....

Numa Pompilius

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: May 2005

At an Insit.. Intis... a house.

Live Forever Or Die Trying [GLHF]

W/Me

24 Jul 2008 at 08:55 - 29

The difference between old dye and new dye is coverage. Old black, for instance, showed more detail - but it was also impossible to dye anything actually black, old black was dark gray. Pretty much the same was true for any "pure" color.

Personally I like the ability to be able to dye an armor actually black or red, not gray or rust.

I wouldn't be opposed to bringing back the old colors in addition to the new ones, but I wouldn't want them to replace the new ones. So I'm voting 'no'.

Zamochit

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Jul 2006

N/A

24 Jul 2008 at 09:37 - 30

I would like to see the old dyes back in the game but only if it were in conjunction with keeping the current preview window.

FF_Timmeh

Academy Page

Join Date: Feb 2008

SG1

Mo/

24 Jul 2008 at 10:08 - 31

if u wanna see more details just mix black and silver.

the new black is REALLY deep black and its as good as it is.

Chico

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jan 2007

24 Jul 2008 at 14:00 - 32

/signed

It was great to get the preview window but it was very lame to destroy the old system at the same time. We lost a lot of color combos.