Obscene Mini-Map Drawings?

chalt2

chalt2

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Feb 2005

Ohio

Heros of Oakhurst - Leader

E/R

Quote:
Originally Posted by Stev0
Maybe the Team Leader should have real powers. Being able to mute/kick underlings in the group he has put together.

If someone starts to abuse his communication priviledges ... they can be muted. If later on down the road they get into trouble and cannot call for help. Thats THEIR problem.

Thing is ... this game should run with player reputations in effect. When some people get bad reps and they become shunned by other players then it will be a point for others to think about. Reputations can be either through word of mouth or through how many times that person gets muted by their leader vs. missions taken.

This way. Keep from being muted/kicked and put in strats and info that retain your good standing. When people see your rep based on interaction with other teams, they will know what they are dealing with. Word of mouth is only as good as how far it travels.

I'm not innocent of this because 1 or 2 times in a random group I have drawn a happy face on the map on purpose and when adventuring with a friend of mine I have drawn (. Y .) ... well you know.

Hmmm intriging idea but 2 things come to mind,
First what if you do missions and quests with the same people all of the time, like guildmates or a select group that you meet with 1 or 2 times a week to play?
Second IF and it would be a big IF, there was a way to create and impliment a rating system then it could be tied to your Fame rating and situations that would happen outside of PvP would also help or hinder ones Fame.

Interesting

Adacia Calla

Academy Page

Join Date: May 2005

The Halls.

[FREE]

W/R

I've drawn "LOL" when we get run over by a giant mob, usually makes everyone laugh.

Stev0

Stev0

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Apr 2005

Halifax, NS, Canada

Quote:
Originally Posted by chalt2
Hmmm intriging idea but 2 things come to mind,
First what if you do missions and quests with the same people all of the time, like guildmates or a select group that you meet with 1 or 2 times a week to play?
Second IF and it would be a big IF, there was a way to create and impliment a rating system then it could be tied to your Fame rating and situations that would happen outside of PvP would also help or hinder ones Fame.

Interesting
Remember, we are looking at the bottom line of the reputation system. It's a method of seeing an unknown player and how he has done among other players. If you play with only a select group then yes you wont have alot of positive/negative votes but if you play with a select group you really have found an ideal person or persons to play with, so really rep means nothing among other players ... the mission success does however lift the score to help out. The final score you would have can work 1 of 2 ways.

A number based score that just says how many points you have accrued along the way. or...
A text level score driven by the number system that tells everyone your either an idiot, ok, a team player. Staying in the middle road is fine for everyone because it could range within a few points of 0.

As for Fame rating. I dont see some idiot (see above example rating ) being famous. I'm not very familiar with the fame rating so ... guess I cannot see this tie in.

The game would just have 2 more minor stats. Group Interaction and Tradability. These stats are way below a Fame rating because again, if you have a group to game with you dont care about new people. If you have a group large enough to rely on then your looking at a guild and the guild master would be responsible for bringing in new members.

Devil's Dictionary

Devil's Dictionary

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Feb 2005

Presumed missing...

Me/N

Quote:
Originally Posted by Stev0
Thats the CALL OUT action?

ie. Player2 attacks monster1
Yes. CTRL+Space will call out your target and CTRL+Double-click will call out the monster you double-clicked on.


Back to the point, it's not the drawings which annoy me it's when people try to paint the entire minimap white. It is still possible to coordinate with players when there's a penis drawn on the map but not when some idiot keeps pinging and shading it.

Mountain Man

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: May 2005

N/E

Quote:
Originally Posted by chalt2
Hmmm intriging idea but 2 things come to mind,
First what if you do missions and quests with the same people all of the time, like guildmates or a select group that you meet with 1 or 2 times a week to play?
Then it would be a "quality over quantity" thing. You might only have four or five votes to your name, but if your overall reputation is positive then you'll be in pretty good shape when it comes time to look for a random party, similiar to how eBay sellers can have a good reputation even if they only sell a couple of items a year.

Ramus

Ramus

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: May 2005

Florida

Zero Tolerance

W/Mo

Quote:
Originally Posted by DEATH AT THE DOOR
It is still possible to coordinate with players when there's a penis drawn on the map but not when some idiot keeps pinging and shading it.
LOL! Good stuff.

catharsis

Academy Page

Join Date: May 2005

I like to draw little question marks when I can't figure out what the hell my group is trying to do. It seems to get their attention

Master Elyas

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: May 2005

People Of The Dragon

W/Mo

Yea... most of the time, people just draw usefull stuff, like pointers and question marks... then comes the LOL's, smilies, checkmarks, X's, and stuff like that... and, sometimes ppl make it appear that one branch of the road is blocked off, saying not to go that way... the map is quite usefull in those aspects.

DarkZeus

DarkZeus

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Feb 2005

Venezuela

I have seen it all on the minimap, and I mean all. I just try and group up with friends I know to avoide these inconveniences.

Stev0

Stev0

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Apr 2005

Halifax, NS, Canada

I like to sketch the more elevated works of the Impressionist Era.

Master Elyas

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: May 2005

People Of The Dragon

W/Mo

same here... same here...

but then again, some of the artistic people on GW are really funny... I've seen quite a bit of artistic stuff on those mini-maps...

Meat Ball

Meat Ball

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Apr 2005

Ok I haven't had much time to play GW even though I've had it since the release. Can someone fill me in on this whole minimap thing? I assume you mean the map in the upper right. I didn't know you could write on it or "ping" it or do much else with it. What are it's interfaces and how does it benefit me.

One last thing, why is the documentation so lacking with this game. If this game was a flight simulator I'd never get off the ground. Is there a single source to find commands and what all the game interface are and how to use them? Maybe I've just overlooked something and maybe this is posted in the wrong section.

Zexion

Zexion

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Apr 2005

Warrior Nation [WN]

N/Me

I had trouble where I partied with 2 guildies and 3 from another guild.
Then all of a sudden, someone drew a swastica on the mini-map.
That, understandably, wasn't accepted by any of us, especially the jewish team member.
The sinner never admitted it was him.
The conclusion is:
Make those colored lines, so we can report such profanities (lol, dunno what it really means, just sounds like it fits in).

_Zexion

Ramus

Ramus

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: May 2005

Florida

Zero Tolerance

W/Mo

Quote:
Originally Posted by Zexion
I had trouble where I partied with 2 guildies and 3 from another guild.
Then all of a sudden, someone drew a swastica on the mini-map.
That, understandably, wasn't accepted by any of us, especially the jewish team member.
The sinner never admitted it was him.
The conclusion is:
Make those colored lines, so we can report such profanities (lol, dunno what it really means, just sounds like it fits in).

_Zexion
I've had that happen at least twice.
Another great reason for colored lines.

Stev0

Stev0

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Apr 2005

Halifax, NS, Canada

Quote:
Originally Posted by Meat Ball
Ok I haven't had much time to play GW even though I've had it since the release. Can someone fill me in on this whole minimap thing? I assume you mean the map in the upper right. I didn't know you could write on it or "ping" it or do much else with it. What are it's interfaces and how does it benefit me.

One last thing, why is the documentation so lacking with this game. If this game was a flight simulator I'd never get off the ground. Is there a single source to find commands and what all the game interface are and how to use them? Maybe I've just overlooked something and maybe this is posted in the wrong section.
The back of the book has a good deal of info about the game, so RTFM ... j/k.

Nuclearwinter

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: May 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by Master Elyas
yes... very

although, y not just ask them to stop? if your the leader of the group, they should... but then again, im almost always partying with my guild members, and im ok with them pinging and scribbling cuz they stop when there are monsters on the map...
when i ask them to stop all they do is write NO in the mini map so it doesnt give them away and they continue to act like a punk

Ramus

Ramus

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: May 2005

Florida

Zero Tolerance

W/Mo

Quote:
Originally Posted by Nuclearwinter
when i ask them to stop all they do is write NO in the mini map so it doesnt give them away and they continue to act like a punk
Good to see im not the only one with a problem with this.

Colors are the best way to solve this so far it seems.

Nuclearwinter

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: May 2005

and / or have their name highlight as well when they do it like have it outline in a very bright and noticeable color

chalt2

chalt2

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Feb 2005

Ohio

Heros of Oakhurst - Leader

E/R

Quote:
Originally Posted by Stev0
I like to sketch the more elevated works of the Impressionist Era.
Lol

Cleaning monitor now...spewed Dr. Pepper all over it...lol

Elevated Impressionists work...priceless

Mountain Man

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: May 2005

N/E

Quote:
Originally Posted by Meat Ball
One last thing, why is the documentation so lacking with this game.
I couldn't agree more. For such a thick manual, it has surprisingly little gameplay information.

Stev0

Stev0

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Apr 2005

Halifax, NS, Canada

This website more than makes up for any lack of print material in the game.

Luggage

Luggage

Elite Guru

Join Date: Feb 2005

sweden

Am I and my PUGs the only ones really using the map to draw paths, mark enemy groups, patrol routes and stop lines?

Fastest way to communicate in the game unless your group are total retards.




Well of course with guild voice is fast but even then using the map makes things faster and smoother.

As for whining: trying to explain the aggro circle to some people *sigh*
{edit} oh it's called "danger zone" in the manual...




Meatball / Mountain Man: since the game will change a lot, due to the streaming technology anet opted to put the lore and general information in the printed manuals. The real manual should be at http://www.guildwars.com/manual/ - for map look at http://www.guildwars.com/manual/interface.html#5

Admittadly that manual could use some fleshing out also.

Devil's Dictionary

Devil's Dictionary

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Feb 2005

Presumed missing...

Me/N

Guys, you won't believe it.

Today I was looking to quest in the Shiverpeek Mountains (after Yak's Bend). I just said "Looking for a party which does not draw penises on the minimap". I got two people after 5 minutes, we ran out, killed some dwarves and I understood we need more. We got back to Yak's Bend and I said "Party which does not draw penises on the minimap looking for players". Someone said "You won't find them: they all do that" but I got two more players and progressed twice as far as I expected in 90 minutes.
The party was great, responcive and we sliced through any number of dwarves despite being level 9,10,11 and 12.

Luggage

Luggage

Elite Guru

Join Date: Feb 2005

sweden

Sounds like a solid tip for finding the right kind of people

Devil's Dictionary

Devil's Dictionary

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Feb 2005

Presumed missing...

Me/N

As good as stripping your female character naked and stand in the middle of the town if you want to sell something. Give her any item and it will be gone in a few minutes.

Stev0

Stev0

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Apr 2005

Halifax, NS, Canada

Quote:
Originally Posted by DEATH AT THE DOOR
Guys, you won't believe it.

Today I was looking to quest in the Shiverpeek Mountains (after Yak's Bend). I just said "Looking for a party which does not draw penises on the minimap". I got two people after 5 minutes, we ran out, killed some dwarves and I understood we need more. We got back to Yak's Bend and I said "Party which does not draw penises on the minimap looking for players". Someone said "You won't find them: they all do that" but I got two more players and progressed twice as far as I expected in 90 minutes.
The party was great, responcive and we sliced through any number of dwarves despite being level 9,10,11 and 12.
Ok ... so they drew (. Y . )'s and ( | )'s instead?

Stev0

Stev0

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Apr 2005

Halifax, NS, Canada

Quote:
Originally Posted by chalt2
Lol

Cleaning monitor now...spewed Dr. Pepper all over it...lol

Elevated Impressionists work...priceless
LoL u pepper-sprayed the monitor.

Mimu

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Apr 2005

England, UK

Call of Destiny [call]

I draw on the minimap when I'm with friends just messing around..and sometimes I try and fill the entire map of pre seared Ascalon then spend hours explaining to people "How do you draw on the map?"

Zetor

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: May 2005

Bp, Hungary

Jademoon

E/

I got lucky with pick up groups so far.. the worst thing I've seen was someone writing "LOL", to which I replied by writing "hax". Someone also started a tic tac toe game once, but it's hard with the lines constantly fading...


-- Z.

thegriffgeeks

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Feb 2005

in the wild with Lion

Knights of the Old Republic

R/Mo

Quote:
Originally Posted by MoMan
Stev0, I kinda like your idea but it might need some work.
Maybe we could have an annoyance rating, where you can rate a player on how obscense / rude he is. That way if you have a team mate thats just an idiot or you just got scammed in a trade, you can rate a person poorly. There ratings would be collective and viewable to everyone so that everyone is warned whenever dealing with the person, and possibly ignore them. Maybe the negative ratings would decrease gradually over time (a long) time so that a person grows up and becomes mature, their previous ratings wouldnt hurt them
Kind of like the eBay rating system. You can determine if the seller is worth it by looking at the feedback on them. The problem is resolution. Someone could trash someone who didn't deserve it. I'm still up for putting their picts on the bottles sold in the game with a caption underneath that says "Have you seen this scammer today?"

Skizzle the Curado

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Mar 2005

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