help me!!!

footballfan159

footballfan159

Academy Page

Join Date: Nov 2006

texas

Legends Of Validus Ravens [wzw]

Mo/E

so i don't understand how so many people can afford fow armor! i have been farming and farming for months and i can't seam to get enough. are there magic wells of money or something that i don't know about or somethin? how does every1 afford that armor? how can you make that much money?

Dr Strangelove

Dr Strangelove

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Dec 2005

Wasting away again in Margaritaville

[HOTR]

Farm like you have a personal grudge against the outdoors.

Swayj1020

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Mar 2008

Loaf of bread

E/

PvP.....
You can make a alot of money from Zash. Keys.

footballfan159

footballfan159

Academy Page

Join Date: Nov 2006

texas

Legends Of Validus Ravens [wzw]

Mo/E

mostly i 55 outside of the hot springs in hm. anything better i can do?

CronkTheImpaler

CronkTheImpaler

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Apr 2006

midwest

AE

W/Me

as for farming there are any number of fast farm spots that can make ya good money. time spent farmin = money made farmin. north kryta, raptors outside rata sum riven earth side, vaettirs in jaga moraine.. these are all good spots to farm. just find a place that matches the build you can run. but as i said TIME SPENT FARMING = MONEY MADE. soloing is really the way to pile up platinum fast.

some others may have some ideas that would be quicker, those are the few i use when i need a quick 100k.


Cronk

Pleikki

Pleikki

WTB q8 15^50 Weapons!

Join Date: Nov 2006

???oo ???ugs ???lan [?????????]

Powertrade is key to get it, other way is be lucky

shoyon456

shoyon456

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jul 2006

D/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Dr Strangelove
Farm like you have a personal grudge against the outdoors.
Listen to him.

Even though the permasin was nerfed somewhat, it's still effective. Use it.

footballfan159

footballfan159

Academy Page

Join Date: Nov 2006

texas

Legends Of Validus Ravens [wzw]

Mo/E

whats powertrade?

Skye Marin

Skye Marin

Jungle Guide

Join Date: May 2006

The Seraphim Knights [TSK]

E/A

Buying low, selling high, a lot. And by a lot, I mean a lot. If you aren't making a trade a minute, you're doing it wrong.

If that doesn't appeal to you farming is your best bet. Whenever you get a gold drop, try just selling it for cash. 7 unidentified golds can be sold easily enough in most common areas for 5k flat. Also, farm extra on weekends where party/booze/sweet stuff drops. Those can be sold for 100-150g each, depending on how patient you are.

zwei2stein

zwei2stein

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Jun 2006

Europe

The German Order [GER]

N/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Skye Marin
Buying low, selling high, a lot. And by a lot, I mean a lot. If you aren't making a trade a minute, you're doing it wrong.

If that doesn't appeal to you farming is your best bet. Whenever you get a gold drop, try just selling it for cash. 7 unidentified golds can be sold easily enough in most common areas for 5k flat. Also, farm extra on weekends where party/booze/sweet stuff drops. Those can be sold for 100-150g each, depending on how patient you are.
If you go "sell 7 unid" golds way, make sure you test them for interesting mods (30 hp is easy to see and worth it)

Elder III

Elder III

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Jan 2007

Ohio

I Will Never Join Your Guild (NTY)

R/

go farm ectos in Underworld - they are the most expensive part of the FOW armor by far.... there are plenty of good builds and advice on the Campfire Thread of these forums.

pumpkin pie

pumpkin pie

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Jul 2006

behind you

bumble bee

E/

months! i've been playing for 32 months and i still don't have fow armor. lol

Hyper.nl

Hyper.nl

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Oct 2006

Defending Fort Aspenwood

E/

Join one of the Ursan parties for a full run of the Domain of Anguish. You will need to bring a consumables set but the number of gemstones you get will be worth it. Continue until you have around 15 of each anguish gemstone, buy a few missing gems and craft an Armbrace of Truth. In this way you can get quite some money + ecto in a relatively short time.

Ġ ō Đ??

Ġ ō Đ??

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Dec 2007

In the ★'s

No guild i quit and went to Aion! :)

A/

well you should have farmed UW with a perma sin like half of the guild wars community to get your ectos that would have taken maybe 2-3 days if you got decent but other than that i made all my cash from power trading go to spamadan or LA look around for some good deals buy the item sell for a nice profit fastest way to make money in guild wars in my opinion but you also have to have at least a good 100-150k to start investing your money

Bob Grunter

Bob Grunter

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Apr 2007

Pennsylvania

Order of Unity [LaZy]

W/

do what i do , farm the 120 ectos and buy the shards with the money u make along the way

Gun Pierson

Gun Pierson

Forge Runner

Join Date: Feb 2006

Belgium

PIMP

Mo/

I don't know if you have a monk or a sin, but you can always play smite runs as a smiter on your ranger with a 600 friend. You'll have 12 in smite, but that's still enough to do fast runs. I helped some ele friends this way.

One run takes between 9-15 minutes and you'll get 1-2 ectos on average each run. Some runs you'll get nothing. Don't be surprised if you're in zero drop streak for 4 runs. Once in a while you'll get 4-5 ectos. After a couple of hours you'll both have around 10 ectos.


To get the shards, I would play DoA full run HM. Sell the gemsets or armbrace and buy the shards.

Powertrading requires a good deal of knowledge of the market, so if you're not into it, it's not worth the trouble if you're just looking to get fow armor and play on.

Lord Sojar

Lord Sojar

The Fallen One

Join Date: Dec 2005

Oblivion

Irrelevant

Mo/Me

This thread could turn ugly very fast. Try and keep your comments constructive and not destructive.

<3 Rahja.

nekopowa

nekopowa

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Dec 2006

Croatia

A/P

Also keep your eye on newly found builds and spots that bring insane cash at start, until everyone starts doing it and it completely devalues. The Elemental Sword Farm, Colossal Farm, Chaos Plains are examples which could net you a fow armor in 3 days before nerf.

Also you can open up a service and run people. Things that i've noticed that are wanted a lot are EotN handbooks, so you could max your titles along running them and earn tons of cash doing it.

MirkoTeran

MirkoTeran

Forge Runner

Join Date: Sep 2005

Slovenia

Scars Meadows [SMS]

Mo/

-Learn to farm
-Learn to powertrade
-Beg for 1k in Kamadan
-eBay

Phaern Majes

Phaern Majes

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Sep 2005

Anywhere but up

The Panserbjorne [ROAR]

R/Mo

I solo trapped the vast majority of the ecto's I needed for my ranger's Obsidian. Then I solo'ed the mobs in the forest part of fow for the shards. But that was before Anet took a sledgehammer to EW.

Cjad the Nord

Cjad the Nord

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Apr 2007

Deadlight Island

The Silly Nannies [GROG]

R/

I've gotta say, the way to go is definately farming Underworld or Fissure of Woe. It's the most consistent. If you're doing that and still not making enough, then you're either doing it wrong or not enough.

Farming for a couple platinum to buy other prestige armor is easy peasy. Farming for FoW requires a bit of time investment. You can get it in a week if you're desperate enough by cutting out showers and keeping chips near your computer.

Holly Herro

Holly Herro

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Dec 2005

Kangaroo-land.

Blades of the Dingo [AUST]

Quote:
Originally Posted by pumpkin pie
months! i've been playing for 32 months and i still don't have fow armor. lol
Baha high five! ;D

JONO51

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Oct 2006

P/

Although I dont have fow, to get lotsa cash relatively fast, make sure you minimize expediture, maximize profits. Dont keep blowing 5k's all over the place for cheap armor, weaps, greens etc. Try and use normal ID kits and expert salvage kits, as they work out cheaper than the superior versions, and every little helps over time

Use the xunlai tournament house. thats about 100k/ month on average for me, and I've been doing it for a few months now. If you hurry, you should be able to get your predictions in for this month.

Usually, I only ever solo farm on event weekends, but DoA runs are fun ( for me at least), and a full one in NM is around 50k for 2 or so hours. HM is even more, but I havent tried one yet :P I wouldnt bother with UW, because there are so many groups that have bad people and fail 10 mins in, resulting in a waste of money. FoW is okay, but you'd probabaly only break even due to cons even if you sold the shards. There is a small chance of 100k+e drops though, so if you're feeling lucky.....

Avarre

Avarre

Bubblegum Patrol

Join Date: Dec 2005

Singapore Armed Forces

The best way is often to farm the source. If you can consistently farm ecto or shards in 1-2 man groups, you can get armor fairly fast.

Phineas

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Nov 2005

UK

Quote:
Originally Posted by Hyper.nl
Join one of the Ursan parties for a full run of the Domain of Anguish. You will need to bring a consumables set but the number of gemstones you get will be worth it. Continue until you have around 15 of each anguish gemstone, buy a few missing gems and craft an Armbrace of Truth. In this way you can get quite some money + ecto in a relatively short time.
I have to agree with this as a good way of making money, especially if you like playing with other people. With armbraces selling for 100k + 20-30e you can get all the ectos you need after selling 3. Running DoA in Hard Mode will increase the drop rate of the gemstones you need. You say you '55' so I guess you've a monk which means that getting into a DoA party will be simple as you don't need a Norn (Ursan) rank to get in.

This assumes that you have access to DoA. Another way to make gold if you have DoA unlocked and have EoTN is to sell 'Consumables'. I solo farm areas that drop the materials needed to craft these and crafting costs 250g per item for each of the 3 consumable items that people want the most, and this set of 3 sells for 7k at DoA. 750g -> 7000g is nice profit.

Arduin

Arduin

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: May 2005

The Netherlands

Limburgse Jagers [LJ]

R/

Join in on the free cash at the Xunlai Tournament House.

Rakim B

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jun 2008

Mo/

Quote:
Originally Posted by footballfan159
mostly i 55 outside of the hot springs in hm. anything better i can do?
That's all I did, the key is selling 7 unid'd crap golds you find there for 5k.

Miss Puddles

Miss Puddles

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jun 2005

California

Shiverpeaks Search And Rescue [Lost]

Me/

i'm surprised no one has asked this yet.

what do you spend your money on? depending on what and how you buy other stuff, you may be able to save yourself a lot of money.

Rehnahvah Gahro

Rehnahvah Gahro

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Dec 2005

Underground

Rt/R

While the OP is wondering why everyone is able to get FoW-Armor, I'm wondering how it could be possible these days to NOT get FoW-Armor if you want to.
Seriously, Ectos at 3.6k or something, Obsis also very cheap, hell, everything is on an all time low.

How comes? Well, easy answer: PvE / PvP Skill Split. Anet dug a fine deep grave for the GW economy by shuffling everything they had into the whining PvE Community (I am a PvEer myself, but I tend to use my brain once in while to actually think about solutions to nerfs and not whine until I get what I want on a silver plate)

To stay on topic: Just farm once in a while or do some titles, grab everything that lies on the ground (white stuff, too) and I usually also id every white item, except for Ascalon-Region whites. All white items become more valuable if you id it. Also I never use Superior Identification Kits, so I always save 25% on that too. I do this since I started playing. Those things seem to do little to nothing to preserve money, but it accumulates over time.

Oh and of course do not spend your money on overpriced fancy weapons, just go with your collector stuff or cheap stuff.

Issac

Issac

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Oct 2006

Earthrealm

W/A

People buy the gold.

zamial

zamial

Site Contributor

Join Date: Apr 2006

Usa

TKC

N/

Determine need from want. Stop buying things you do not need. Pick everything up and merch it/salv it into materials, with the basic salv kit, then merch. You should be entering zones with as empty of bags as possible. Read up on areas others frequently farm and the builds they use. Farm.

Or alternativly just go and raid the UW/FOW for a few months. TAKE MONEY INTO UW AND FOW. Let the party know if they do get a shard/ecto drop that, if they are going to sell it, that you will buy it for fair value, when you are not in combat/busy(only anounce this 1 time dont be a tard and spam on every drop, be honorable that is thier drop not yours.). There are also a few solo builds for specific areas in UW/FOW that you can farm, be warned now it will normally take a beginner around 10-20k to be profecient at a solo run. This is how I have gotten 1 full set and a few peices on different charecters. My 1st set I bought 1 peice at a time over 3 months of raiding/soloing the UW/FOW (This was before factions).

tiers to wealth:
100k - the 1st benchmark often the hardest to get.
250k - getting there keep up the good work(this is the "nest egg")
500k - 2nd benchmark difficult to not spend
750k - in my opinion this is the highest tier
1000k - now you are at max storage capacity and are now limited to 100k per charecter. Really rather pointless unless you are planning to buy a REALLY expensive NOT needed Item.

I have only ever hit the 750k tier 1 time, I tend to drift between 250k-600k, But I always keep that 250k safe and sound.

zamial

zamial

Site Contributor

Join Date: Apr 2006

Usa

TKC

N/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Issac
People buy the gold.
Get caught, Get banned. I have fow and NEVER went RMT.

N1ghtstalker

N1ghtstalker

Forge Runner

Join Date: Dec 2007

E/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Bob Grunter
do what i do , farm the 120 ectos and buy the shards with the money u make along the way
QFT
i did DoA runs, got armbrace and sold it, there you have some ectos
a good tip, buy your top first that's the most expensive, then it'll feel more smoothly
you can still go do VwK UW
and still
ectos are cheap now, when i had to buy my fow it was alot more tougher with the ecto price that was still stable

phan

phan

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Nov 2006

phantasmagoria

Didn't you know ? you have to buy seeds from the merchant and plant them in your guildhall for maximum effect xD

no seriuzly i heardz fow was fugly ..

Cannot believe people are still grinding this game for fow armor or titles ; i have more fun sitting in the garden counting every piece of grass then doing anything more than once on guildwars a day //

TwinRaven

TwinRaven

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Apr 2005

W/

Mostly pretty good advice...but I'll add one option: If you own EotN, there are quite a few high-end items in chests at the end of some dungeon runs. Do your homework, make an appropriate build (hone it, tinker with it, make it yours)...and run that dungeon until you know it like your momma's face! Do it in HM and use as few consumables as possible...H/H it and after a few runs you might get lucky and get the "jackpot". For me, Bogroot Growths...43 runs and my payout has been 150k in drops and salvagables, nothing in chests (I don't bother with my luck and lockpicks), a few 5-15k items sold at LA, and 85k for a req10 fire Frog Scepter, and another 100K+Xe if I choose to sell my req9 blood Frog Scepter...All-in-all, well over 250k playing casually over two weeks...dungeon-running has been profitable for me.

EDIT: By "casually", I mean 2-3hrs a day x2 on weekends...about 45min-1hr per run.

imnotyourmother

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Mar 2008

in a house

The Knitters Guild

W/R

OK for those of us that do not want the UW and are not ursan what is a man to do? Well kill snow wurms outside of Borials Station.

You can kill 13 of them in under 3 minutes in NM or 10 of them in 5 minutes in Hard mode (eye of the north expansion if you were wondering where.)

Each kill will net you over 100 gold if gold is dropped. Also there are Lockpicks that are dropped. Sell them for 1200 gold each. Also every single white that is dropped is worth a minimum of 50 gold at the Merchant. You can save the golds or identify them for the title and sell the mods.

A Forget Me Not 20% is 20K easy and sundering is common on most drops and they are generally max in hard mode.

You can average well over 6K an hour without blinking an eye in hard mode. I identify everything especially the off hand golds.

Hope this helps

Risus

Risus

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jun 2007

56min UW HM post-2/25 I win

FDR

A/

Powertrading is fastest even though I have no idea what to do with it. WHAT ARE YOU SUPPOSED TO TRADE? HIGH END OR LOCKPICKS?

Selket

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Aug 2005

Grand Court of Selket/Sebelkeh

What If You Had An Outpost Named After You [slkt]

W/

Quote:
Originally Posted by zamial
Get caught, Get banned. I have fow and NEVER went RMT.
I know people who have 10 sets and haven't.

I've had well over 10mil gold, which really isn't much and I've never been dumb enough to spend real money on this game :\

Damian979

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: May 2008

The only real money makers now a days are DoA to get gemsets and inscr rare skin weapons, Zkeys, and running difficult areas or missions. Pretty much any popular farm will give you a respectable amount of cash over time but if you want the stupidly expensive items you aren't going to get that kind of money any time soon from something like raptors.

pamelf

pamelf

Forge Runner

Join Date: Aug 2006

Australia

Lost Templars [LoTe]

Me/Mo

I've made enough just on quests and missions, but I also pool all the money on my characters. They individually never carry anything but immediately put it into storage so I can get what I immediately want quicker. Chest drops, and zkeys also get a bit of gold in the bank.

That said though, FoW armour is fugly...you sure you want it? :S