Hero Battles Offer Double Rewards

Big_Iron

Big_Iron

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Dec 2005

The Edge

Tormented Weapons [emo]

From the official Wiki......


Quote:
Hop into Hero Battles to earn double Balthazar faction and double commander title points. The double rewards will be offered from Noon Pacific (-7 GMT) on Friday and last through Sunday at 11:59 PM Pacific (-7 GMT)

Sarevok Thordin

Sarevok Thordin

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Apr 2006

Scotland

W/N

I don't get why people constantly dismiss HB because it has an AI element.

It's still in the end, 2 human players commanding a team of AI against each other. Equal odds, both players being tested, their performance is still all in their control.

Sure I don't play HBs but I can still see why it's a choice of PvP.

Dr.Jones

Dr.Jones

Banned

Join Date: Jul 2008

Quote:
Originally Posted by Sarevok Thordin
I don't get why people constantly dismiss HB because it has an AI element.

It's still in the end, 2 human players commanding a team of AI against each other. Equal odds, both players being tested, their performance is still all in their control.

Sure I don't play HBs but I can still see why it's a choice of PvP.
normally i would agree with this remark but hb has be come a exploit fest.

also yawn....

lord of all tyria

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Mar 2007

Actually, its because its broken and never gets any updates focused at it.

Neo Nugget

Neo Nugget

Site Contributor

Join Date: Jan 2006

R/

This is probably the 8th time this year that it's been double hero battle weekend. Not my thang.

Going on vacation for 2 weeks anyway :P

Skye Marin

Skye Marin

Jungle Guide

Join Date: May 2006

The Seraphim Knights [TSK]

E/A

Quote:
Originally Posted by Sarevok Thordin
I don't get why people constantly dismiss HB because it has an AI element.

It's still in the end, 2 human players commanding a team of AI against each other. Equal odds, both players being tested, their performance is still all in their control.

Sure I don't play HBs but I can still see why it's a choice of PvP.
Flaws in the games design mean that in higher-level play, few if any kills happen, and it becomes a matter of who can shadowstep the most instead of running from shrine to shrine. Also, the more you win, the faster you realize this because all your opponents cap shrines and don't stop. There's no real penalty for having a team of four Mo/A, heal balling and Return/Recall/Shadow Meld everywhere. Snares are ineffective for the same reason. Who cares if you're crippled, if you're half a stage away from anything that could hurt you.

The AI has gotten better, but capping shrines need less clout.

zelgadissan

zelgadissan

Forge Runner

Join Date: Feb 2008

The Warrior Priests [WP]

Me/Rt

Crap, I'm forced on family vacation and miss Wintersday in July, and then I come back for this. I feel violated.

As a PvE mainly player, I'll at least jump over for some PvP on most of the double weekends. Never for HB, though.

Dallcingi

Dallcingi

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Nov 2006

USA

The Black Parades [死人死]

Mo/

Sync with friend and take turns bipping heroes then resign? yeahh free balthy and command pts ftw huh

slowerpoke

slowerpoke

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jul 2007

Cuba

every time i see HB mentioned i think there should have been a TA ladder/AT instead

Sarevok Thordin

Sarevok Thordin

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Apr 2006

Scotland

W/N

Quote:
Originally Posted by Dr.Jones
normally i would agree with this remark but hb has be come a exploit fest.

also yawn....
Wouldn't know much about exploit fests cus as I said, I never played it :P

Quote:
Flaws in the games design mean that in higher-level play, few if any kills happen, and it becomes a matter of who can shadowstep the most instead of running from shrine to shrine. Also, the more you win, the faster you realize this because all your opponents cap shrines and don't stop. There's no real penalty for having a team of four Mo/A, heal balling and Return/Recall/Shadow Meld everywhere. Snares are ineffective for the same reason. Who cares if you're crippled, if you're half a stage away from anything that could hurt you.

The AI has gotten better, but capping shrines need less clout.
Make the first version of the Grenth Avatar available in HB? :P JK

Yeah the shadow stepping annoyance I can see the effect of in HB. Mostly the abuse of it by /A's. Unless Anet changes the rules on shadowstepping for non-primaries I don't see it changing, it's just a stupidly powerful ability for monks to get their paws on.

cosyfiep

cosyfiep

are we there yet?

Join Date: Dec 2005

in a land far far away

guild? I am supposed to have a guild?

Rt/

yeah!
another weekend that I can do what ever I want---so maybe some of my elonians will make it to the realm of torment-----
(but we KNEW it was going to be a pvp weekend since lasts was pve---)

StormDragonZ

StormDragonZ

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jan 2008

New York

W/R

Quote:
Originally Posted by English Warrior
/roll 100 anyone?
I just let people win because I don't care about the Commander title. So I plan to help those who plan to do some HB.

I'll think about running the Quad War. My Warrior and three Warrior heroes. I'm sure a lot of people will get a riot out of it...

Murmel

Murmel

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Mar 2008

Land of Confusion

[swea]

W/

HB weekend >.>

/cry

Dr.Jones

Dr.Jones

Banned

Join Date: Jul 2008

Quote:
Originally Posted by cosyfiep
yeah!
another weekend that I can do what ever I want---so maybe some of my elonians will make it to the realm of torment-----
(but we KNEW it was going to be a pvp weekend since lasts was pve---)
I didnt realize that the SNOW BALL ARENA was pve

Snow Bunny

Snow Bunny

Alcoholic From Yale

Join Date: Jul 2007

Strong Foreign Policy [sFp]

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Originally Posted by Dr.Jones
I didnt realize that the SNOW BALL ARENA was pve
I was unaware that a weekend where 90% of the GW playerbase massacred raptors for alcohol and fruitcakes was a pvp weekend.

Oh, right

Draikin

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: May 2005

The people still playing HB don't want double rewards, they want updates to the broken mechanics and AI bugfixes...

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Originally Posted by Skye Marin
Snares are ineffective for the same reason. Who cares if you're crippled, if you're half a stage away from anything that could hurt you.
Snares are very effective in HB, if shadowstepping and instagib sins were to be nerfed then defensive cripshot rangers and Icy Shackles ele's would completely dominate the metagame. You just need to get to shrines faster than your opponent, it doesn't matter if you use snares or shadowsteps (or both) to achieve that.

The Arching Healer

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Sep 2006

Super Kaon Action Team [SuKa]

Finally the weekend I was waiting for like 2 months. Need some luck to reach Battle Commander

Martin Firestorm

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Dec 2005

Louisiana

E/Me

Quote:
Originally Posted by Skye Marin
Flaws in the games design mean that in higher-level play, few if any kills happen, and it becomes a matter of who can shadowstep the most instead of running from shrine to shrine. Also, the more you win, the faster you realize this because all your opponents cap shrines and don't stop.

Or dump the friggin shrines altogether. Pre-HB I always hoped anet would come up with a basic 1 on 1 death match arena. I still think that would be lots more fun, even with 3 heroes like now, just no shrines and points for kills only.

Sergeant of Marines

Sergeant of Marines

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jul 2006

Japan

[트두므s], Guild Leader

Mo/

Woot, time to get Rank 3 Commander this weekend...

It is gonna be fun to see

Player A: Roll?
Me: No Thanks, but Good Luck
Player A Leaves
Flawless Vitctory!
GG

FoxBat

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Apr 2006

Amazon Basin [AB]

Mo/Me

You'd think PvP and PvE players could for once unite around a weekend neither of them care about.

Monk Gsb

Monk Gsb

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Oct 2006

England

Mo/Me

im gonna be tanking my rank and then gogo 4 sf ele's for zkeys..... watch them squirm

and to the player who said about /rolling

do it anyways, if they loose the roll, you winz. if you lose the roll, you play on and winz anyways xD

X Tigercat X

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Feb 2008

Rt/

wow anet is stupid
why put hb weekend on the weekend of the MaT GG get some common sense
the mat is already laggy enough we dont need a 1000 noobs floody the district making the MaT basically unplayable. wow this just pist me off really bad because now ppl are gonna get robbed outta XXX keys because of err7s and crap

Tearz1993

Tearz1993

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jul 2007

Relentless Aggressors [rA]

R/Mo

Quote:
Originally Posted by Martin Firestorm
Or dump the friggin shrines altogether. Pre-HB I always hoped anet would come up with a basic 1 on 1 death match arena. I still think that would be lots more fun, even with 3 heroes like now, just no shrines and points for kills only.
Because facing even more gimmicky builds than HB has now would be fun right?

xx borat xx

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Jun 2008

A/

woot time to get r6 commander!

Shayne Hawke

Shayne Hawke

Departed from Tyria

Join Date: May 2007

Clan Dethryche [dth]

R/

I don't care. Give me a boardwalk/gamer weekend so I can grind out the last 300 points I need for r7 skillz. kthxbai.

Scythe O F Glory

Scythe O F Glory

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: May 2008

New Jersey

League of Elite [LoE]

D/

meh. Ill pass on this one, never cared for hero battles. But seriously, are they gonna come up with something original someday?

lord of all tyria

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Mar 2007

Why should they? I don't think when GW was released they actually thought about events every weekend.

Lady Raenef

Lady Raenef

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Feb 2007

Oregon, USA.

Zero Mercy [zm]

W/

I've never played Hero Battles once since Nightfall came out. Not once. Even to this day.

icedwhitemocha

icedwhitemocha

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Nov 2006

Ancestral/Grenz

[CneX]

W/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Lady Raenef
I've never played Hero Battles once since Nightfall came out. Not once. Even to this day.
Same here. Simply cba.

FF_Timmeh

Academy Page

Join Date: Feb 2008

SG1

Mo/

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Originally Posted by wiki
Hop into Hero Battles to earn double Balthazar faction and double commander title points. The double rewards will be offered from Noon Pacific (-7 GMT) on Friday and last through Sunday at 11:59 PM Pacific (-7 GMT)
/care

RotteN

RotteN

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jun 2005

W/

time to get out them mad rolling skills

Martin Firestorm

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Dec 2005

Louisiana

E/Me

Quote:
Originally Posted by Tearz1993
Because facing even more gimmicky builds than HB has now would be fun right?
Ahh, but you wouldn't. Think about it.

Jetdoc

Jetdoc

Hell's Protector

Join Date: Jul 2005

The Eyes of Texas [BEVO]

D/A

Finally, a weekend where I can work on actually completing campaigns.

Sir Seifus Halbred

Sir Seifus Halbred

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Oct 2006

I say more pvp arena weekends! (RA and TA)

MMSDome

MMSDome

Raged Out

Join Date: Sep 2005

Best possible weekend event that can be had!

Can't wait for the endless amount of scrubs to HB which will make for easy points.

Best strategy is when asked to roll well you should roll! If you lose however dont leave cause the person that asked for roll will more then likely rage quit. God I love people that do this just for the points, hilarious.

added: Gwen are you participating in mAT this month?

Jack The Wretched

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jul 2006

We Eat At Kfc [PuKe]

W/

And again they mess up .. I've been waiting for a weekend like this for a while, but not in the mAT weekend >< ... Anyway I'll still be playing mAT since my connection owns face :]

X Tigercat X

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Feb 2008

Rt/

i will play mat if i have time to actually get 10 more qps but if im lagging sunday i wont.

Skye Marin

Skye Marin

Jungle Guide

Join Date: May 2006

The Seraphim Knights [TSK]

E/A

Quote:
Originally Posted by FoxBat
You'd think PvP and PvE players could for once unite around a weekend neither of them care about.
Like double Jade Quarry and Fort Aspenwood weekends?

Shadowmoon

Shadowmoon

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jun 2006

N/A

N/

solution to fixing HB, add a death match map and a kill count map to the rotation, that would fix all the ulta defencive builds currently being played. Also i wouldn't mind adding the costume bawl maps to TA/RA. i mean add some more varianty.