Make Aggressive Refrain suck less

A11Eur0

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Apr 2005

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Alright, I have to say something.

the only decent duration IAS for a paragon sucks balls. 25 energy, while my para has 30 base. Cracked armor, reapplied every time a shout/chant ends. Makes my hero monk with dismiss condition do nothing but. No adrenaline boost to make it worthwhile.

A Paragon with cracked armor becomes a soft target in PvE...drop the energy cost to 15e so it's viable, maybe add an adrenaline boost (like 20% chance of double adren) or remove cracked armor altogether. You can keep it as-is for PvP..as people still use it and make it work.

zelgadissan

zelgadissan

Forge Runner

Join Date: Feb 2008

The Warrior Priests [WP]

Me/Rt

IMO, you're missing the point here. It's a permanent and unstrippable IAS. Anthem of Flame maintains it on recharge, and you GAIN energy (-5, +6 at 12 leadership) in a full party. All you do is cast it when you enter a zone, maintain with Anthem of Flame which is a pretty solid boost to your entire party, and then dominate. If you can't stand Cracked Armor, take a Foul Feast/Plague Sending necro to deal with it - which BTW is not a big deal, it's not like you're a frontline character. You've even got a skill to deal with the fact that you might have less armor - [There's Nothing to Fear!]. Plus the Centurion's Insignias that you should always have on halve the issue in the first place.

AR is more than powerful enough as is. No poll, so /notsigned.

Editing because I messed up on my energy math and removing a skill I mentioned.

BlackSephir

BlackSephir

Forge Runner

Join Date: Nov 2006

A/N

Yes, I can see how perma 25% ias sucks :gnasher:

Quote:
A Paragon with cracked armor becomes a soft target in PvE.
Hahah, no.

Tyla

Emo Goth Italics

Join Date: Sep 2006

Should I explain why it's still imbalanced or should I just flame you? Decisions decisions...

25 energy for a one-time cost, and just renew it. GG. The Dismiss problems are minimal.

Oh, and I like how you said "So it's viable". Stop being bad.

Snow Bunny

Snow Bunny

Alcoholic From Yale

Join Date: Jul 2007

Strong Foreign Policy [sFp]

Wait.

You want to buff the 2nd best IAS in the game?

How is it NOT VIABLE?!


/notsigned

Arkantos

Arkantos

The Greatest

Join Date: Feb 2006

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Quote:
Originally Posted by A11Eur0
Alright, I have to say something.

the only decent duration IAS for a paragon sucks balls. 25 energy, while my para has 30 base. Cracked armor, reapplied every time a shout/chant ends. Makes my hero monk with dismiss condition do nothing but. No adrenaline boost to make it worthwhile.

A Paragon with cracked armor becomes a soft target in PvE...drop the energy cost to 15e so it's viable, maybe add an adrenaline boost (like 20% chance of double adren) or remove cracked armor altogether. You can keep it as-is for PvP..as people still use it and make it work.
25 energy isn't a problem. Cast it when you get into a zone, cast a 5e anthem on recharge. Paragons have great energy management. Besides, its a 1 time cost.

I don't know if I should laugh or cry. A paragon with cracked armor still has 76 armor, which is more armor than every other profession except for warrior.

If it's on pretty much every single paragons bar, it's viable, and it doesn't need to be changed.

lord of all tyria

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Mar 2007

OP.

Learn to GW, then talk about balancing. For now, no.

Infectious

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Dec 2006

New Zealand FTW

Ex Talionis [Law]

Quote:
Originally Posted by zelgadissan
IMO, you're missing the point here. It's a permanent and unstrippable IAS. Anthem of Flame maintains it on recharge, and you GAIN energy (-5, +6 at 12 leadership) in a full party. All you do is cast it when you enter a zone, maintain with Anthem of Flame which is a pretty solid boost to your entire party, and then dominate. If you can't stand Cracked Armor, take a Foul Feast/Plague Sending necro to deal with it - which BTW is not a big deal, it's not like you're a frontline character. You've even got a skill to deal with the fact that you might have less armor - [There's Nothing to Fear!]. Plus the Centurion's Insignias that you should always have on halve the issue in the first place.

AR is more than powerful enough as is. No poll, so /notsigned.

Editing because I messed up on my energy math and removing a skill I mentioned.
errrrr
/thread?

Squishy ftw

Squishy ftw

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Aug 2007

Your backline

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Snow Bunny


How is it NOT VIABLE?!


/notsigned
But don't you see. It gives CRACKED .. ARMOR.

CRACKED.

ARMOR.



And euhm, yeh. zelgadissan gave a perfect answer.

No.

NoXiFy

NoXiFy

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Aug 2007

★☆٭Ńēŵ~ŶờЯК٭☆★

The Benecia Renovatio [RenO]

Mo/Me

cracked armor is imba. put srsly? cant u use this, than ursan, and self maintain it with ursan roar? thats not imba?

RavagerOfDreams

RavagerOfDreams

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Dec 2007

somewhere over the rainbow....

A/

i lol'd

god no its already ridiculously overpowered

Alex the Great

Alex the Great

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Feb 2007

America.....got a problem with that?

[Lite]

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all the regular trolls already got here, so i dont have much to add besides........


your wrong.

Nibbit

Nibbit

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Oct 2007

The Netherlands

Werent you the person who had a thread called: ''Frenzy is a bad skill'' like some years ago?

/notsigned btw

A11Eur0

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Apr 2005

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Was I? I don't remember.

Whatever...so you have to run a specific type of build for it to work...no creativity allowed. mmk.

BlackSephir

BlackSephir

Forge Runner

Join Date: Nov 2006

A/N

Quote:
Originally Posted by A11Eur0
Was I? I don't remember.

Whatever...so you have to run a specific type of build for it to work...no creativity allowed. mmk.
Wrong again, read AR's description.

God, no wonder most of the people in pve think paragons suck- they're terribad.

A11Eur0

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Apr 2005

W/

whatever...this can be closed.

Nibbit

Nibbit

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Oct 2007

The Netherlands

Quote:
Originally Posted by A11Eur0
Was I? I don't remember.

Whatever...
Its called sarcasm.

Alex the Great

Alex the Great

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Feb 2007

America.....got a problem with that?

[Lite]

W/

Quote:
Originally Posted by A11Eur0
Was I? I don't remember.

Whatever...so you have to run a specific type of build for it to work...no creativity allowed. mmk.

no, you just need to bring [anthem of flame] or [anthem of weariness]


thats like saying ele's have no creativity because they need attunments, or frenzy is bad because you need a cancel stance.


synergy= gud

dilan155

dilan155

Desert Nomad

Join Date: May 2007

living room

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Alex the Great
all the regular trolls already got here, so i dont have much to add besides........


your wrong.
QFT and its already imba

Monk Gsb

Monk Gsb

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Oct 2006

England

Mo/Me

learn to play, use flail if ur QQing about cracked, otherwise its teh best ias in teh gamezorz

xPIMPx

xPIMPx

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jul 2005

Uk

Hmmm Defrosted Cat [Poo]

W/A


BURN

Arkantos

Arkantos

The Greatest

Join Date: Feb 2006

W/

Quote:
Originally Posted by A11Eur0
whatever...this can be closed.
It would be my pleasure.