Wisdom or Kurzick Title?

shoyon456

shoyon456

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jul 2006

D/

Okay, so I'm not exactly close to GWAMM atm, but my main is not a survivor or ldoa, which means when I do get there, I will have to choose between Wisdom or Kurzick faction titles for #30.

My question to you is whether Wisdom would be easier to attain than Kurzick? I am currently at R4 Kurzick (for HoM) and at only 620 golds ID'd. Note that I plan to farm most of the golds if it turns out Wisdom would be the easier choice.

In addition, if you feel that Wisdom would be easier to get, please explain how you would farm alot of golds very quickly (without wasting money on picks/keys) since there is already a relatively effecient way for Kurzick (HFFF).

Crimson Flame

Crimson Flame

Better Than Arkantos

Join Date: Apr 2007

ONOES I iz playing WoW

The Order of Dii [Dii] - officer

I would do Kurzick because you can buy your way to that title while still making money in the long run. That's just me, though, especially since I don't know an equally efficient way to farm goldies.

scythefromunder

scythefromunder

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Apr 2008

CA

Tears Of The Ascended [ToA]

if you are going for these titles on your ele, assuming you have one from your sig, i would go do the raptor farm.

komma

komma

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Aug 2007

None

N/

i got to that stage and was doing hff...ended up saying eff it and am now pursuing treaser hunter, which is a lil more fun than flaggin heros or leeching.

jiggles

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Sep 2007

N/

or get the treasure hunter title along with the wisdom. If thats not an option FFF your kur title, you make 100g a run and can even pay someone 50g to do it for you.

SOF

SOF

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jul 2008

The Rejected Sins [SOF]

To be honest, my opinion is biased. Seeing as I got to R12 Kurz.
But I think it's the better title of the two.

Pros:
The obvious factor is it allows your other chars to have a maxed title.
But also, given that you HFFF yourself, and don't get a runner, you can make 3-5Mil gold in the process.
So you could buy a nice reward prezzy for yourself
Also it makes all your Kurzick PvE skills imba.

Cons:
Takes 2 months of mindless grinding.
You can burn out, putting you off going back to finish the title. Burning out on Kurzick title is far worse than others. As it is such a long title to finish, that it can make getting GWAMM much much harder.

I can only give the points on Kurzick, as I have not done Wisdom.

But I can imagine it's the best title to go for of the two simply for the money involved at the end of it.

Hope it helps :P

Ministry Of Peace

Ministry Of Peace

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jun 2007

req 12 land

guildless for the time being

P/

I think the ridiculous save yourselves you would get on all characters alone makes kurzick the better choice.

shoyon456

shoyon456

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jul 2006

D/

Quote:
Originally Posted by scythefromunder
if you are going for these titles on your ele, assuming you have one from your sig, i would go do the raptor farm.
Nope, sorry derv.

Seems like people favor the kurz title, but to the guy who said 2 months... is it really that short? I mean, how much faction would you say you donated per hour without factoring in the 2x going towards title? And no, if I go for wisdom it will just be wisdom, picks/keys for chests are a money trap imo.

V E R A T T A

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Mar 2006

N/

most pp will hfff the kurz title, i chose to do the wisdom and while im broke at 7500golds, i dont regret it. i think its a cool title

SOF

SOF

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jul 2008

The Rejected Sins [SOF]

Shoyon, that's based on doing roughly 100k/day which works out at 200k to title.

unkleanone

unkleanone

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jan 2008

TN

Semi Automatic Bananas [SEMI]

R/Mo

I'd say it would probably take about the same amount of time to do kurzick title as it would wisdom. You say you wan to farm your wisdom title if you do that then I suggest raptors...btw you don't have to have an ele to farm raptors. My Ranger does HM Raptor farms in less than a minute no problem. Each run will usually net you atleast one gold though you do get small stretches with no golds but some will make up for it by dropping two to three golds a run...with each run taking less than a minute and netting you 120+ Asura rep i'd say the raptor farm for wisdom title would be the best option. As you could possibly finish two titles at once.

Personally i'm going for my wisdom title on my title hunter ranger, but then again I'm a luxon and all your kurzick peoples can't stuff it lol j/k

Xx Da Best Xx

Xx Da Best Xx

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: May 2008

LA

Personally Id go for wisdom. Its a lot cooler title to have. When I see people with max wisdom I think "Man, they've been playing for a while and working hard to get that." But when i say Max Luxon/Kurz..I just think "Oh, they either leeched or just hfff..."

Plus people sell unids 7 for 5k. And theres a lot of people that do that, making it somewhat easier.

Stimm

Academy Page

Join Date: May 2006

I had this same choice for my # 30. I originally decided on Kurzick for # 30 for the reasons many have listed. If I was lazy I could buy runs and still make a little money ( 50g/ ) or I could learn to run it and have the whole reward ( 150g/ ) or even better start taking passengers and make up to 450g/minute.

I learned pretty quick how to do it and joined a town holding alliance so I could buy keys in bulk and resell them ( money maker ) on top of charging for faction runs. I wound up making money faster then I could spend it so I started buying UNIDs and it got to the point where I was progressing faster on the ID title then Kurzick and depending on where I got UNIDs from I was making money from them even at paying 5k for 7.

So in the end I maxed my UNID title and am sitting at just over 7m Kurzick but havent done anything with the latter in awhile now , gets really boring really fast

cosyfiep

cosyfiep

are we there yet?

Join Date: Dec 2005

in a land far far away

guild? I am supposed to have a guild?

Rt/

try for both and see which you get first? I know that doing the fast farming stuff doesnt leave much time for chest running....but you might get some gold drops along the way/come across chests etc.....

anyways I am working for both---I have more than one character to do it with so that makes it easier on the faction points (still have some who have yet to get to eternal grove!)....

crazybanshee

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jun 2006

Look out!

E/

I didn't have ldoa or survivor either, so I went for treasure hunter. Which gave me a huge boost in the wisdom title anyway, and ended up making me a pretty comfortable amount of money the higher up I got in that and lucky.

Sergeant of Marines

Sergeant of Marines

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jul 2006

Japan

[트두므s], Guild Leader

Mo/

I am in the same boat as you, at 29 maxed titles on my main but No Survivor.

I am choosing to do both however the Kurzick will probably get completed first.

Currently at:
5100 ID's
8,040,000 Kurzick
All money I make from HFFF goes to Buying Unids

When I get burnt out on HFFFing I farm Raptors on my ele, brings in some golds and money as well.

BabyJ

BabyJ

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jul 2006

Illinois

SFG

Mo/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Xx Da Best Xx
Personally Id go for wisdom. Its a lot cooler title to have. When I see people with max wisdom I think "Man, they've been playing for a while and working hard to get that." But when i say Max Luxon/Kurz..I just think "Oh, they either leeched or just hfff..."

Plus people sell unids 7 for 5k. And theres a lot of people that do that, making it somewhat easier.
Believe it or not some people have got kurzick faction without hfff.
I'm rank 7 in kurzick and rank 6 in luxon and every single point of that has been from Ab's.
I would say wisdom being a cooler title is a matter of opinion.


But on topic, wisdom is a much faster title to max cause it can be purely bought, where as the allegiance titles take considerably longer even if you hfff.

Leonhart

Leonhart

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Dec 2006

Ascalon City

W/

As there is an update to come saying that titles should be account based, so if you have LDOA or Survivor on another char, you should be able to add it to your other chars if needed.

Lycan Nibbler

Forge Runner

Join Date: Sep 2006

AZ

Quote:
Originally Posted by Leonhart
As there is an update to come saying that titles should be account based, so if you have LDOA or Survivor on another char, you should be able to add it to your other chars if needed.
that update was for your HoM, it doesnt mean that every char is going to get LDoA if you have it on one.

Having done both, Id say do the Kurzick one via hff. Yes, its very easy to burn out, but finding a good runner that you pay 100g a time to is a good way to split up the flagging (you still make 50g a run when you pay). I used to do 10k myself, then pay for 10k by which time I was ready to do a further 10k.
The wisdom title used to be easier when the chinese farmers were around in Bergen, but now its basically a money sink thats as bad as doing treasure hunter.