Mesmer or Elementalist?? which to choose...

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SiLeNcEr
Pre-Searing Cadet
#1
I have decided to make a new character but am having trouble deciding between a mesmer and elementalist.
i own all campaigns including expansion, and was wanting the communties thoughts on which to choose and why would you choose that proffession.

MESMER OR ELEMENTALIST



ty no flames plz.
Panais
Panais
Frost Gate Guardian
#2
ele can get into more groups, but mesmers can be alot better when used correctly
MagmaRed
MagmaRed
Furnace Stoker
#3
It would depend on what you enjoy. Elementalist is geared for mass damage. Mesmer is geared for disabling an enemy. If you just want to do as much damage as possible to as many targets as possible, run an Elementalist. If you know how other classes work, and how to disable them, run a Mesmer.

PvE will not show much PUG love to a Mesmer, but friends and guilds will see the value in one for virtually anything. Elementalist will have a LOT of PUG love, and they also have several options for solo farming.
zelgadissan
zelgadissan
Forge Runner
#4
Depends on if you like PuGs or not. If so, out of those two you have to take ele.

If you get joy out of watching enemies fail at what they do, take mesmer (like me). You're already off to a good start if you own all the campaigns because that means you probably know by now how all the professions work. Trust me, there is no joy in GW like catching a 1/4 cast spell in an interrupt.

If you enjoy watching stuff blow up (at least for a while), take ele. You will also probably be more accepted in harder areas like DoA and UW, whether it's a balanced team or Ursan crap.
Smarty
Smarty
Krytan Explorer
#5
Which other classes have you played? Do you do any PvP? How are your unlocks for your heroes? Are you a member of a guild or do you need to rely on PUGs for stuff you don't want to/can't do hero/hench? Will this be a possible main character for doing hard mode title chasing with? Do you have a character you can do solo-farming on yet? They're all factors in which would be the best class for you to try next.

Chances are ele will be your best bet if you're looking for skill unlocks for heroes or wanting to PUG or title chase. If you don't care about any of that and just want to have fun watching things kill themselves, play a mesmer. They're a tonne of fun and a lot more versatile than many people realise. You'll do better at it if you've played a variety of other classes already, though, as you'll have a better understanding of what to do to make your target suffer.
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Tyla
Emo Goth Italics
#6
Mesmers, even used by the best of players are the least effective profession in PvE. Their main interrupts can be ran by any profession, their primary isn't as favourable and single target shutdown is less effective in PvE. Play it if you're into disruption, shutdown and crap though. It's PvE and anything works.

Elementalists have great utility, can power skills such as Great Dwarf Weapon on 3 people with ease aswell as Mesmer interrupts or Cry of Pain, can blind, deal moderate damage and are more accessable in PuGs.

Bottom line: Elementalists are generally a superior choice, but if you prefer the role of the Mesmer, go do that, it's PvE!
Lykan
Lykan
Forge Runner
#7
If you dont know the difference right now then go ele.
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Anson Carmichael
Ascalonian Squire
#8
Be aware that mesmers have a serious lack of self-heal, that is always a concern.

That said, I find the several play styles of mesmers to be quite entertaining. In PvE, I've found interrupts to be of varying use, but Power Block is extraordinary for shutting down enemy monks and elementalists. With silly mobs that congregate in one place, chaos storm, especially when echo'd, can cause AoE energy denial with some marginal damage. Ether nightmare, the factions pve mesmer skill, is an amazing skill that goes with almost any profession. I would concur with other people, though, that finding a PUG with a mesmer is hard if not impossible some times. I've been kicked a few times without explanation. Just be careful, if you play a mesmer, that you're using for its class and not only as a faster casting version of other classes, because you'll probably be happier playing the other classes.

Elementalist is the greatest farming class in existence. Earth magic is fun. That is all.
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HackingHippie712
Academy Page
#9
Id go mesmer, they are capable of perma sf for farming and can deal more damage than an ele in HM(armor ignoring FTW) i usually run something like this when my mesmer ventures into pve

Mantra of Recovery
Empathy
Backfire
Pain Inverter
Cry of Pain
Cry of Frustration
Power Drain
Rebirth
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Don Doggy
Lion's Arch Merchant
#10
Most PUGs don't realise how useful a mesmer can be so for getting accepted into groups ele will have an easier time. Ele is also easier to use and play than a mesmer.
Morgan Crowe
Morgan Crowe
Frost Gate Guardian
#11
Choose mesmer, you can play fastcast ele anyway if you want/had to.
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Tyla
Emo Goth Italics
#12
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Originally Posted by Hacking Hippie
Id go mesmer, they are capable of perma sf for farming and can deal more damage than an ele in HM(armor ignoring FTW) i usually run something like this when my mesmer ventures into pve
Because Cry of Pain is linked to an attribute, right?
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crazybanshee
Desert Nomad
#13
Like everyone said, go ele if you're going to be pugging cause most groups won't take a mes. Mes requires a lot more skill and twitch, and oh yea a fast connection cause you won't be interrupting much on a slow ping.
Rothan Celt
Rothan Celt
Jungle Guide
#14
I suppose if it must be one of the 2 pick mesmer i chose ele but so much more can be done with a mesmer aswell as Me/E hybrid builds .... Male mesmers look iffy however :s
Elder III
Elder III
Furnace Stoker
#15
If you have not played either before I suggest Ele, as it is easier and will be sought out more by others. You can get it to lvl 20 in a very short time, so if you don't like it you can just reroll as a Mesmer.
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HackingHippie712
Academy Page
#16
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Originally Posted by Rothan Celt
I suppose if it must be one of the 2 pick mesmer i chose ele but so much more can be done with a mesmer aswell as Me/E hybrid builds .... Male mesmers look iffy however :s
are you kidding? my mesmer is a sexy mofo...and have you seen the mesmer for StS?
Highlander Of Alba
Highlander Of Alba
Wilds Pathfinder
#17
Play what you wish to play

Yes both can be good...It may take you a little longer to learn the mesmer ..but its worth it in the end

I cant really what is best(term used loosely)as long as you enjoy the game thats all that matters....

You always have the option to add more slots/campaigns ect

So if you try the mesmer and dont like it then salvage everything before you delete your char putting gold into yout chestforwhat u salvaged ,,save bags also as saves you buying ..

Just a way if you dont have a lot in your bank
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HackingHippie712
Academy Page
#18
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Originally Posted by Tyla
Because Cry of Pain is linked to an attribute, right?
ahh, pardon my ignorance for thinking Mesmer hexes were best effective on a Mesmer

as far as pve goes anyway FC SoI Ele>Normal ele

plus when pressing 1,2,3,4 next group 1,2,3,4 next group 1,2,3,4 next group 1,2,3,4 gets boring with mesmer you could switch to a build that actually requires a thought process
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Tyla
Emo Goth Italics
#19
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Originally Posted by HackingHippie712
ahh, pardon my ignorance for thinking Mesmer hexes were best effective on a Mesmer
Ah, pardon my ignorance for just using any Mesmer hex and still using it to it's full extent.

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as far as pve goes anyway FC SoI Ele>Normal ele
Not really. Splinter Weapon > your crap. Also, SoI sucks unless it's something gimmicky. Oh, and SoI only makes it eleven spec at sixteen Illusion.

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plus when pressing 1,2,3,4 next group 1,2,3,4 next group 1,2,3,4 next group 1,2,3,4 gets boring with mesmer you could switch to a build that actually requires a thought process
Oh, and who said other professions don't carry traits like these? Mesmer isn't the only class that requires basic skill, and single target shutdown is less effective in PvE.
Tearz1993
Tearz1993
Wilds Pathfinder
#20
Cry of Frustration is more fun than any ele skill you will find.