Ursan and perma sf

Spiritz

Forge Runner

Join Date: Apr 2007

DMFC

With whats happened to perma sf farming and ursan in Uw we know that anets got plans for august regarding both.
Ok perma sf was ''abused'' for Uw and theres no denying that but we all know ursans abused as well - im not starting a fight so carry on reading before making comments.
Perma sf buff/nerf affected not just sins but anyone who uses sin as second and sf ... so my question would be if we had to come up with ideas how to safeguard perma sf and ursan use outside of uw/fow what would you suggest ?

For example ... we know below lvl 20 entry into eotn you get buffs and when in pvp our skills change .. why not add to uw/fow something similiar.. maybe have skill alteration on entry ... sf gets its 50% dmg reduction still and ursan say maybe 1 pip hp loss similar to the -2 pips nrg regen - as we dont know what anet has planned for ursan we can only speculate.

It would be nice if we the players could show anet without complaining that as a comunity of players we can work together and maybe learn not to abuse skills/builds as yes its great to use but end of day we affect everyone else be it thru skill nerfs/buffs or major falls in the economy ( ecto prices drop and so on ).
Why should players who dont do uw/fow pay the price when ectos drop and by that i mean they manage to save enough cash to get a weapon which was maybe 100k and 2 ectos and then find out ectos drop in price and they now need extra ectos to cover the drop.
Ectos are the 2nd currency and many will agree when prices were stable you knew where you stood in prices and not have to re work out the value of something.
And please dont say 55 monks are just as bad - ive not seen any 55 monks go into uw and walk out with loads of ectos going solo .. 55 monks as far as im aware tend to stay out of uw/fow unless in a team with a necro and we know they are limited to where they can travel.
Not sure if ive posted this in correct area - if not i appologize and if a mod could move it i`ll be happy

Akaraxle

Akaraxle

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jan 2006

Italy

E/

May I summarize this post?

"Hi, I want to keep abusing broken shit. Please don't nerf it. Bye."

farmerfez

farmerfez

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Mar 2006

You should know

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Akaraxle
May I summarize this post?

"Hi, I want to keep abusing broken shit. Please don't nerf it. Bye." cookieforyou

Rakim B

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jun 2008

Mo/

I am confused by your run-on's and poor train of thought. The summary was very helpful though.

wesman

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: May 2008

Order Of the Pheonix

Mo/

So essentially you want players to stop abusing skills on their own without Anet having to nerf said skills? In a perfect world that would be nice, but human nature is to take any advantage it can find and use it no matter what the cost. Sounds a little idealistic but go for it

boarderx

boarderx

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Feb 2007

[PIG]

is this a rant in the farming section? ppl will abuse whatever is the most effective and quickest and another way to look at it is taking advantage of something that works very efficiently instead of abuse

either way, its how GW has always operated, you have to adapt to the changes

upier

upier

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Mar 2006

Done.

[JUNK]

Perma SF IS broken even if the only thing you could do with it would be to farm dust/stones/wood/anything that has no value.
The fact that you now do 50% less damage just shows that A.Net has no clue what they are doing in PvE.

Surely you can guess what my stance on Ursan and CoP is.

CE Devilman

CE Devilman

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jul 2006

hell

Do U Trust Anet

N/Mo




....fells like.........................perma sin.......................

Snow Bunny

Snow Bunny

Alcoholic From Yale

Join Date: Jul 2007

Strong Foreign Policy [sFp]

Quote:
Originally Posted by Spiritz
how to safeguard perma sf and ursan use outside of uw/fow No, let's beat those two into the ground with a spiked club; it'd be much healthier for the game.

Spiritz

Forge Runner

Join Date: Apr 2007

DMFC

Funny how ppl reply and dont even offer any ideas , myself ursan and perma sf dont matter to me even if anet removed them - i dont use ursan and rarely use sf so if they set it bk to prebuff it wont matter to me.
Remember sf farming was around before ursan and was mainly used for boss farming - dont recall ppl moaning about sins for that.

upier

upier

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Mar 2006

Done.

[JUNK]

Quote:
Originally Posted by Spiritz
Funny how ppl reply and dont even offer any ideas
The problem is that the original idea
Quote: Originally Posted by Spiritz
so my question would be if we had to come up with ideas how to safeguard perma sf and ursan is bad.



Btw - LOVE the piccy CE D.
Very Killer7.

CE Devilman

CE Devilman

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jul 2006

hell

Do U Trust Anet

N/Mo

I go a few ideas....

1.remove the -50% from SF

2.UW nightmare : Well of the Profane or Chilblains



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Bowstring Badass

Bowstring Badass

Forge Runner

Join Date: Nov 2005

Character selection screen figuring what I want to play...

Purple Lingerie - :D

Problem there CE chillblains now needs a target to cast its no longer that pbaoe affect. Or the could just give the Dream riders leech sig or sig of disenchant either one would perma nerf soloing that area.

Cyb3r

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Feb 2008

AFO

E/

oh wait let's nerf the whole game into smithereens so the poor man stays poor and the rich rich?

The problem is the nerfs to shadowform didn't fix anything it just made it worse, shadowform farming was better off with it's old duration (also applies to the old chaosplains which took longer to do than it's now and alot harder but not impossible to do)

My opinion is to revert the Chaosplains to it's old former self (no Factions skills) and revert Shadowform to the old duration

It could fix alot