Loot scaling

Tender Wolf

Tender Wolf

Banned

Join Date: Jul 2007

All over Tyria, Cantha, & Elona

The Eternal Night Vanguard [TEN]

R/

I don't know if it's just me or the system is messed up or what, but I swear every time I go out to do anything with a PUG (even guildies, allies, or friends), the drops suck. For instance:

Anyone who goes afk gets a gold drop, a noob who aggroes three groups gets a lockpick, and a know-it-all who complains if anyone dies gets a tome. You get the picture. Why is that the noobs, afkers, and a-holes get all the good drops? Seems to me the loot scaling isn't working out the way it should be.

Some of us actually do our best to play the game and do it right and we barely get a white drop, much less anything valuable.

Anyone else experienced this? What are your thoughts on the loot scaling? Like, do you think it's bugged or fair? etc.

upier

upier

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Mar 2006

Done.

[JUNK]

That's not loot scaling.
That's luck.

Dronte

Dronte

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Sep 2006

Conspiracy theory ftw.

I Is Special

I Is Special

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Nov 2006

NJ

To Gain Extra Mobility We Play [NUDE]

W/

Are you really saying that the game determines who is a noob (not newb), or an ass, and gives them better drops? Like it looks at what you've written and done and bases drops off of that?

Are you serious?

Or am i just bad with the internet sarcasms?

MithranArkanere

MithranArkanere

Underworld Spelunker

Join Date: Nov 2006

wikipedia.org/wiki/Vigo

Heraldos de la Llama Oscura [HLO]

E/

Some people tend to notice coincidences more than others.
You are one of those, like me.

For each time you see an AFK getting a god drop, you'll get another one. You just remember the bad ones.

Just don't mind them.

DarkFlame

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Feb 2005

Ascalon

E/

O.o'

What does loot scaling have to do with being a noob, afk and a-holes? Loot scaling deals with the size of your party and after that its a matter of luck.

I Phoenix I

I Phoenix I

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jan 2007

The Elite Lords of Chaos [LoC]

R/

Lol?

Bad luck.

CyberMesh0

CyberMesh0

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jul 2005

Charter Vanguard [CV]

N/Me

While we're not dealing with loot scaling, but party drop mechanics- the point is the same. But there's no conspiracy- it's just really terrible luck that all the morons get the good drops.

zelgadissan

zelgadissan

Forge Runner

Join Date: Feb 2008

The Warrior Priests [WP]

Me/Rt

My guild has four people that do a lot of stuff together. Every time that we run out to do anything as a whole group, two of us - myself and a guy we'll call "Ranger" - get all the good drops. The other two - we'll call them "Necro" and "Dervish" - get roughly 35-40 spots in their bags filled with whites and guaranteed lockpick breaking for grapes from HM chests. I got back to back golds from enemies last night. They got Mesmer tomes and broken picks from back to back chests.

Is it loot scaling? Not at all related. Is it a giant conspiracy aimed to get me to buy GW2? Jury's still out on that one (aka no). It's just the random number generator screwing you. Plus it's like that old saying - it's far easier to remember the bad than the good.

Kusandaa

Kusandaa

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jul 2006

N/Mo

IMO, luck.

And mine is pretty bad in general. The retards I team up with do have good luck... but seriously, I'd rather be a good player with horrible luck than a horrible player who doesn't deserve his luck >_>.

Kanyatta

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jun 2006

Guildless, pm me

R/Mo

Quote:
Originally Posted by Tender Wolf

Anyone who goes afk gets a gold drop, a noob who aggroes three groups gets a lockpick, and a know-it-all who complains if anyone dies gets a tome. You get the picture. Why is that the noobs, afkers, and a-holes get all the good drops? Seems to me the loot scaling isn't working out the way it should be.
Yup, you got it. Anet records the chat logs and the level of douchebaggery is directly proportional to the goodness of drops.

/sarcasmoff
It just seems like it happens more often because you notice it. If a friendly PUG partner gets a lockpick, you kind of shrug and go w/e, but if the jackhole gets one, you kind of think "Wow, he really doesn't deserve one" and tend to remember it more.

Disclaimer: When I say "you", I don't mean "you in particular", I mean "people in general."

Zahr Dalsk

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Aug 2007

Canada

As much as it sounds like something ArenaNet would do, no, it's just random numbers.

Tender Wolf

Tender Wolf

Banned

Join Date: Jul 2007

All over Tyria, Cantha, & Elona

The Eternal Night Vanguard [TEN]

R/

No no, I know it's not a conspiracy. hehe Okay I guess it isn't loot scaling, but I agree with the ones that say you tend to remember the bad luck more than the good luck. Sure it's luck, but...yeah. It still sucks.

Maybe I should have called the thread "bad luck drops" or something.

Spyda Prince

Spyda Prince

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jun 2008

[DL] Desolation Lords

E/R

I do notice my lower exp. charactors are more lucky than the ones that have millions of exp. so yes its a conspiracy to get u addicted then shaft you :P

lewis91

lewis91

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jul 2008

Wales

Order of the Azurelight[OA]

E/

Ive been running various dungeons for a while, and everyone gets about 2 gold drops per run. and i havent got nothing. they stand still watching me kill everything. and i dont get a sodding thing But again, thats Luck, i mean, im on R2 unlucky and i havent even reached R1 lucky yet xD

sgtclarity

sgtclarity

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jul 2005

I Can Break These C[uffs]

W/

Maybe the game isn't giving anything to you because it has detected you are a whiner devoid of even a facade of rudimentary logic.

AKB48

AKB48

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jul 2008

みやき町

Mo/A

Yea it's all luck, sometimes I'm the best in the group and I get crap. Sometimes I didn't do a damn and I get good quality golds.

Calista Blackblood

Calista Blackblood

Permanently Banned

Join Date: Oct 2007

Northern Ireland

Nowhere To Run Nowhere To [Hide]

N/

/signed

no wait! mai lewt nooooo they be taking my lewtz

/end stupidity

drops =luck

http://guildwars.wikia.com/wiki/Loot

wanmoke

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: May 2007

In the land of Do Not Disturb

Wind Riders

R/

In an attempt to sound very mature.

Loot is assigned by a computer. Computers don't care about human feelings. That is all.

Lest121

Lest121

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Apr 2007

Army of Darkness

A/Mo

The system is flawed IMO............

While doing Norn runs with my monk I have seen one guy for 3 straight Runs get all the good stuff Elite tomes, lock picks, gold items, regular tomes and after he left the system didn't spread the wealth it actually shifted to another person..........and this isn't the first time I have seen this, I saw it happen to one guy twice 12 hours apart...........while doing Vanguard runs I join a pug group and it was a GOOD one, this one guy got every thing. I stop doing runs went to chill came back and was rushing to finish up Vanguard before the Double weekend was over and the Same dude join my team and the same crap happen again.............while the system is Adequate it's Flawed IMO it favors people from time to time and destroy others, my guildie got a Q10 Obsidian sword 6 weeks after they were released since then his LUCK has been GARBAGE.......... he has yet to recover any thing that resembles decent luck.

Div

Div

I like yumy food!

Join Date: Jan 2006

Where I can eat yumy food

Dead Alley [dR]

Mo/R

Quote:
Originally Posted by upier
That's not loot scaling.
That's luck.
We have a winner with common sense.

garethporlest18

garethporlest18

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jan 2006

[HiDe]

W/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Shakti
Yeah, because the game totally has it out for the good players and wants only the asshats to get fun stuff....

/facepalm


It may seem like a conspiracy but it's really just luck and odds...honest. Ask the shooter over on the grassy knoll ------------>
Actually, everytime I"m an asshat, I get great drops. So there might be some truth to that one.

-Makai-

-Makai-

Jungle Guide

Join Date: May 2007

WA

DH

Rt/

I understand your frustrations very well. I can't begin to list how many times I've lead PuGs through dungeons only to get awful rewards when afk'ers, whiners and the like received gems and polymock pieces.

Again, it's just the luck of the draw.

Avarre

Avarre

Bubblegum Patrol

Join Date: Dec 2005

Singapore Armed Forces

Answered. Been answered before. Probably will be answered again.