Hey, how about fixing Obstruction?

Lady Raenef

Lady Raenef

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Feb 2007

Oregon, USA.

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Take a good look at that picture...let it soak in.

What more can I say really? I was right there in the Random Arenas of this map. I couldn't hit the damn thing to get my adrenaline for my hammer attacks. I was standing in that spot, chucking a spear. I couldn't hit. I even moved around a bit, still obstructed. Eventually, I switched to my hammer and mowed her down, but this just shouldn't be happening over three years into the game later, am I right?

Some may say "QQ some more" but this isn't the only time I've had "Obstruction" when there clearly isn't any. My point is, either work on the mechanism that triggers "obstruction" a little more, or do not screw this up for GW2. I will be severely disappointed.

t00115577

t00115577

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Sep 2007

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Im with you 100%. I play a ranger main and it happens ALL the time, especially if the enemy is on a bridge, mental amount of obstruction there, even though there is none. I often run right up to them, so im right on top of them, and still obstructed

/signed

RotteN

RotteN

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Join Date: Jun 2005

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happens a lot on bridges yeah, pretty retarded.

Rainbow Ftw

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my tip would be load up ur adrenaline with daggers next time; it's faster.

Lady Raenef

Lady Raenef

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Oregon, USA.

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Rainbow Ftw
my tip would be load up ur adrenaline with daggers next time; it's faster.
In GvG, you would know Furious Spear is a req for all those moving targets.

KoKoS

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aBove Empress Amarox xP

KDT

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QQ some more

it hapens to me too, mostly when i'm on bridges =/

MithranArkanere

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Yeah. Players should not be obstructed if there's nothing obstructing the view.

If you can see it in first person, you can hit it.

DarkNecrid

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Join Date: Jul 2006

Unfortunately, this would take quite a bit of engine work, and probably won't ever happen.

Tyla

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Join Date: Sep 2006

^

Oh? I sure don't like the idea of working for gaming companies then.

/Signed regardless, especially since I primarily play Ranger in AB. I just wish my ping wasn't bad at night so I can play even the twitchy roles in GvG.

PS: I wonder why two people said "no"...

DarkNecrid

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Join Date: Jul 2006

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Oh? I sure don't like the idea of working for gaming companies then.
It won't happen cause when I say quite a bit, I mean they'd have to redo a grand part of it and their focus has always been THE NEXT BIG THING.

Div

Div

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Where I can eat yumy food

Dead Alley [dR]

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Tyla
^

Oh? I sure don't like the idea of working for gaming companies then.

/Signed regardless, especially since I primarily play Ranger in AB. I just wish my ping wasn't bad at night so I can play even the twitchy roles in GvG.

PS: I wonder why two people said "no"...
I am a strong ranger interrupt spammer! Just watch how I tried to conc-shot a signet in the pd wurms match!

farmerfez

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Join Date: Mar 2006

You should know

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Quote:
Originally Posted by KoKoS
QQ some more

it hapens to me too, mostly when i'm on bridges =/
I seriously doubt you know what QQ means -_-

gigahertz205

gigahertz205

Academy Page

Join Date: Aug 2006

Mo/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Rainbow Ftw
my tip would be load up ur adrenaline with daggers next time; it's faster.
Im pretty sure thats a female warrior with obsidian armor.

/signed. really annoying in the RA priest map on the bridge.

TheodenKing

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Quote:
Originally Posted by DarkNecrid
It won't happen cause when I say quite a bit, I mean they'd have to redo a grand part of it and their focus has always been THE NEXT BIG THING.
So: quite a bit means grand part of it? Brilliant!

Shayne Hawke

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Bridges are terrible. I don't even think you're on a bridge.

/signed

Luminarus

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Yeah, i hate it when that happens. I got up in a monks face in TA, shot off dshot to int WoH, and was obstructed. And I hadnt missed with d-shot the entire match ><

seut

seut

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jun 2005

Europa

Anet is working on a fix for this... it's called Guild Wars 2.

JupiterStarWarrior

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Join Date: Jun 2008

Oklahoma City

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Quote:
Originally Posted by farmerfez
I seriously doubt you know what QQ means -_-
It'd be better to actually type "cry" or "whine" instead of "QQ", though.

Netspeak FTL (and yet here I am using it myself, LOL)















ON TOPIC: I agree. I remember I was playing a Ranger somewhere in Kaineng City, targeting an enemy with my arrows, and it kept saying "obstructed". It looked like to me that the area wasn't obstructed at all, and it looked like a clear line of site. Well, it came to pass that I figured out why there was obstruction: my target was right under a lip, and so, I couldn't hit him. Quite annoying, really.

N1ghtstalker

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nuff said
/signed for a fix

JupiterStarWarrior

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Yeah, looks like you got yourself a clear line of sight. Hm. Maybe they (the Titans) have an Invisible Wall ability... Hm.

N1ghtstalker

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Join Date: Dec 2007

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Quote:
Originally Posted by JupiterStarWarrior
Yeah, looks like you got yourself a clear line of sight. Hm. Maybe they (the Titans) have an Invisible Wall ability... Hm.
when i started wanding the other one it was obstructed as well

Tender Wolf

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I agree that it's totally stupid when you're right there in the enemy's face and it says your view is obstructed. They should remove it, but I'm guessing to do that they'd have to remove it altogether. And that wouldn't make sense, like how can arrows and spears (and all other weapons) shoot through walls? "Ow my head! Build a stronger wall!"

DarkNecrid

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Join Date: Jul 2006

Quote:
Originally Posted by TheodenKing
So: quite a bit means grand part of it? Brilliant!
Yes, there is a difference. Quite a bit means a substantial chunk. Grand part means a majority of it.

MithranArkanere

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Tender Wolf
I agree that it's totally stupid when you're right there in the enemy's face and it says your view is obstructed. They should remove it, but I'm guessing to do that they'd have to remove it altogether. And that wouldn't make sense, like how can arrows and spears (and all other weapons) shoot through walls? "Ow my head! Build a stronger wall!"
Probably the problem comes from GW not having Z axis.

If a bridge is something you can go under, the game may consider it as an environment placeable like trees, and obstruct.

But there are bridges that do work correctly, even if you can go under them.

So what they must do is check both that work correctly and do not, compare them, and make the ones that do not work work like the ones that do work.

zelgadissan

zelgadissan

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Join Date: Feb 2008

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Quote:
Originally Posted by MithranArkanere
Probably the problem comes from GW not having Z axis.
We have a winner. It's the same crap as why you can lay a trap under a bridge and have it rape the enemies on top. Or why you can get in a sword fight where you're under the bridge and he's on top.

GW2 has to have a Z-axis for them to implement the jumping and crap they seem to think is required for a good game. We'll see by then whether they fixed it or ruined it even more.

/signed for a fix but it's not coming.

Kanyatta

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jun 2006

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Yeah, it's terrible and happens all the time, it's like rubberbanding, but without a /stuck.

/sign


Off-topic:
Quote:
Originally Posted by gigahertz205
Im pretty sure thats a female warrior with obsidian armor.
Do you know what adrenaline is?

MStarfire

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Join Date: Nov 2007

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Rainbow Ftw
my tip would be load up ur adrenaline with daggers next time; it's faster.
Wow. You're a dumbass. He's not complaining that building adrenaline with a spear is slow, he's complaining that there's a problem with the game engine.

Can't you read? Are you new here? Are you a non-native English speaker?

I'm not being condescending, I'm honestly wondering if you actually read or understood the OP.

JupiterStarWarrior

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Oklahoma City

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Quote:
Originally Posted by N1ghtstalker
when i started wanding the other one it was obstructed as well
Yeah. Probably do. *cough* Especially an invisible skill or something... >_>

Bah. I hope it's IMPROVED in Guild Wars 2.

Still, I wonder why the two people said "no" to this... o_O;

gigahertz205

gigahertz205

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Join Date: Aug 2006

Mo/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Kanyatta
Do you know what adrenaline is?
Yea and if u read the quote that i quoted, then you would know why i said its a warrior. Why the hell would u use daggers to build up ad on warrior? Do you know any competent wars who builds adrenaline with daggers? Cause i dont.

Tyla

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Join Date: Sep 2006

Quote:
Originally Posted by gigahertz205
Yea and if u read the quote that i quoted, then you would know why i said its a warrior. Why the hell would u use daggers to build up ad on warrior? Do you know any competent wars who builds adrenaline with daggers? Cause i dont.
I do, in the uber-tacular mega trebbegga weapon swapping 4 weapon build of 0wn4g3.

deadman_uk

deadman_uk

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Join Date: Feb 2007

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KOD

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/signed, it's rather annoying at times.

Marverick

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Join Date: Aug 2006

R/

/signed

Go outside Gate of Pain and onto the bridge with a group of Margonites and Monoliths. It happens every single time there.

moriz

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Join Date: Jan 2006

Canada

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this problem often occurs when you're on one side of an ARCHED bridge, and your target is on the other side. often if you change your camera view, you'll find that your target really IS obstructed by the curvature of the bridge surface.

however, this same obstruction code seems to affect bridges that are flat, which makes no sense.

Abedeus

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F'es up my Ranger and Paragon.

/signed

MisterB

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Quote:
Originally Posted by seut
Anet is working on a fix for this... it's called Guild Wars 2.
I'm fairly certain this is correct. They would probably need to completely redesign the game engine to fix this. As for other bugs with the engine, witness me attacking with an axe at just inside earshot range.

MithranArkanere

MithranArkanere

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Join Date: Nov 2006

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Quote:
Originally Posted by MisterB
I'm fairly certain this is correct. They would probably need to completely redesign the game engine to fix this. As for other bugs with the engine, witness me attacking with an axe at just inside earshot range.
[IMG]
That's happens due to incoherency between data in client and server.
Lag causes it. /stuck fixes it.
That's the problem with asynchronous parts in game mechanics.

MisterB

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Quote:
Originally Posted by MithranArkanere
That's happens due to incoherency between data in client and server.
Lag causes it. /stuck fixes it.
That's the problem with asynchronous parts in game mechanics.
It was a terrain glitch, not lag, but /stuck might correct it. That screen was before they added the /stuck command to the live server.