Just wondering if a Rit runs this well, and if its even viable to use, preferably in HM.
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Also, which would be better? This or a standard Necro Minion Bomber with Jagged?(kinda like the Sabs MM)
Rit MM
TheOrangeFalcon
MagicalHobo
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Also, which would be better? This or a standard Necro Minion Bomber with Jagged?(kinda like the Sabs MM) That might work on a hero if you boost it's energy up a tad. I tried running something similar on a hero, and while it worked, the hero was constantly low on energy, and would use whatever energy it gained on Death Nova/Jagged Bones (I will admit though, this was with a Drok's Death Staff and a Minor Spawning Rune). Also, just as a personal preference, I'd stay away from FomF or DPS, simply because if the bomber is targeted or the DPS'd person were to die, you would have a bunch of minions attacking your party. A res sig should be sufficient.
TheOrangeFalcon
Thanks. Ya im not a fan of FomF or DPS myself, but i wasn't sure what to throw in there and since i already had the jist of the build there i kinda just placed it there.
And i was thinking of using a +5e 20% spear and a 20/20 death offhand for him. If energy is still a problem, would disabling Death Nova for a bit work?
And i was thinking of using a +5e 20% spear and a 20/20 death offhand for him. If energy is still a problem, would disabling Death Nova for a bit work?
MercenaryKnight
It is viable, but a horrible option. Heroes won't always maintain the enchantments before summoning minions, thus losing energy when they summon and having problems down the line. I suggest just sticking with the sab n/mo or coming up with a necro/x variant for your own need. Nothing can beat the soulreaping attribute.
TheOrangeFalcon
Thanks Mercenary. Guess thats pretty much all i needed to know. If the enchants cant keep up, your right, no point in running it.
Monk Gsb
micro your hero for the enchants and it would make a nice alternative to the MM in sabway or w/e its called
Fragile Feeling
I use the elite [attuned was songkai] on my Rit Minion Bomber
zwei2stein
I use Rt minion bomber. Works great enough for me to use it in HM, I haven seen him have problem keeping enchants up. I use primary necro MB only if i need secondary utility and cant fit it anywhere.
(Poisonous Spear of Whatever - even if you run necro MB, you want it.)
(Poisonous Spear of Whatever - even if you run necro MB, you want it.)
Moloch Vein
In Hard Mode, this is a terrible option. Three enchantments at 45 seconds recharge. One of them useless, the other good, the third vital to even begin to mimic N main energy management (and still it's a lot weaker.) Deadlock to /N secondary with massive Spawning investment making build horribly inflexible. Lower Death Magic leading to less minions and less Death Nova damage.
DarkNecrid
I really wish they would have kept the skill(s) related to Rit MMing from a long time ago...
http://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/Accelerated_Growth
http://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/Verata%27s_Promise
The second combined with Signet of Creation...god that would OWN so hard.
http://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/Accelerated_Growth
http://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/Verata%27s_Promise
The second combined with Signet of Creation...god that would OWN so hard.
obsidian ectoplasm
It looks ok to me, but honestly id just stick with Sab MM
Turbobusa
I've tried it a couple of times with me as a warr and it sure was nice to be cured from any condition but I've found that the hero doesn't always renew enchants when they run off, and it has thesame problem as the necro MB, i.e. he is slooooow.
Plus the necro is secondary free allowing you to bring more utility.
But this build will work yes if it is what you want to know
Plus the necro is secondary free allowing you to bring more utility.
But this build will work yes if it is what you want to know
Rothan Celt
Stick to N/Rt Rt/Ns are not as effective due to enrgy management relying on enchants etc
upier
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Plus the necro is secondary free allowing you to bring more utility.
This.
PS and Aegis will do more for your team then this whole bar (well, outside of the Animate spell of course ...).
PS and Aegis will do more for your team then this whole bar (well, outside of the Animate spell of course ...).
distilledwill
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I use Rt minion bomber. Works great enough for me to use it in HM, I haven seen him have problem keeping enchants up. I use primary necro MB only if i need secondary utility and cant fit it anywhere.
(Poisonous Spear of Whatever - even if you run necro MB, you want it.) So the Poisonous spearhead does affect Death Nova poison duration? Cus I asked whether it did in the QnA section yesterday and noone could really give me a definate answer.
For my two cents someone came up with an interesting idea of using [[Reclaim Essence] as an elite to help with energy management a couple of months ago.
(Poisonous Spear of Whatever - even if you run necro MB, you want it.) So the Poisonous spearhead does affect Death Nova poison duration? Cus I asked whether it did in the QnA section yesterday and noone could really give me a definate answer.
For my two cents someone came up with an interesting idea of using [[Reclaim Essence] as an elite to help with energy management a couple of months ago.
-Lotus-
mostly, I would use a necro, but if you dont have access to 3 necros the rit is almost as good. it might even be more useful if you have a bunch of frontliners because of the healing from spirit's gift.
Fragile Feeling
Yea exactly, necros do the job better but if you don't have the triple necro, the rit is the second best choice because of spawning power helping with minion creation.
MercenaryKnight
You could run a primary n/mo bringing aegis, protective spirit and dwayna's sorrow and it'd be better than the rt/n. Provides healing, and support as well as a constant supply of minions for bombing.
A necro just can't be outdone when it comes to minions.
A necro just can't be outdone when it comes to minions.
azizul1975
i tried this build long ago before i acquired the third necro hero for N/Rt . Rt/N hero run out of energy fast with this build.
Paul Dawg
It's fine for NM, but in HM this isn't going to hold a candle to the Sabway necro. The main problem, as people have said, is energy management: the Sabway necro is getting an infusion of energy with each death via soul reaping. But another problem is that a Rt primary is maxed at 12 death magic, and that means his death novas are going to do less damage.
If you want to run this, take off [feast for the dead]. The minions die quickly enough that you don't need to waste a spot on your bar with a skill that doesn't do much more than kill them. I'd replace it with [putrid bile]. I'd also take off the res pronto, and I don't honestly think [spirit's gift] is worth the energy investment. Leave the healing to the healers. Remember that all those enchantments need to be reapplied--sometimes manually.
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If you want to run this, take off [feast for the dead]. The minions die quickly enough that you don't need to waste a spot on your bar with a skill that doesn't do much more than kill them. I'd replace it with [putrid bile]. I'd also take off the res pronto, and I don't honestly think [spirit's gift] is worth the energy investment. Leave the healing to the healers. Remember that all those enchantments need to be reapplied--sometimes manually.
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Also, which would be better? This or a standard Necro Minion Bomber with Jagged?(kinda like the Sabs MM)
shanaya
When my Ele had only two necros available she ran a Rt/N bomber with this build:
[Rit bomber;OASiUwk84MbmVhlKaAPYNTuA]
It worked well, but it is a poor-man's bomber compared to a primary necro.
[Rit bomber;OASiUwk84MbmVhlKaAPYNTuA]
It worked well, but it is a poor-man's bomber compared to a primary necro.
Paul Dawg
I agree that is just about the best bar you can do with a Rt/N minion master (though I'd consider using [putrid bile] instead of [signet of creation]), and it's not as good as a primary N minion master.