Is it possible to clear UW with 2 warrior Ursan+heroes?

This belongs in the build/farming section

Done properly, it can be done with 2-3 people. Study up on Terra Tanking and you can solo most of the Underworld, particularly The Four Horsemen quest. There is already a ton of stuff on quickly clearing the Underworld in the farming section though, so I suggest checking it out.

They're not talking about farming, they're talking about beating UW.

What I want to know is why the Wars are pretending to be Eles and Rits. You've got Factions, which means [[Dragon Slash] and [["Save Yourselves!" (Luxon)], i.e, Godmode. Might as well use it.

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if you only have 2 ppl i wouldnt choose ursan (not that i would recommend it in any situation) the best option is one of the players as a terra tank, ive completed uw with me and my brother and heroes, he was a terra tank and i was a lazy monk, i basically had prot spells to get through the traps and to take the agro and damage of half of the enemies on the four horseman quest in order to protect the heros

Well after the next update, who knows if what will happen with ursan >_>

but anyway, It is possible but you probably need a terra tank instead of 2 ursans.

Me and my girlfriend have gone through the whole of UW just clearing out monsters to see if we get beat at any point (it was rather fun), I was the only Ursan, she was an SF ele and we had heroes (Sabway, prot monk, healer monk, SF hero) we didn't have time to do all of UW but after some discussion about completing UW we decided that we could probably do it.

What we would need is me as an Ursan (if it gets nerfed badly in the next update then, hello Dslash build <3<3<3 ), She will need to learn Terra Tanking (should also help against those bloody bladeaxtes >_>) and when we get to say, the four horseman quest. then she can flag her heroes to one side while she goes to the other side and hold off 2 of the four horseman while I go with the heroes for the other 2.

by far, the toughest UW quest <_<

anyway, point is. I don't know if four horseman is possible without a terra tank (it might be with humans but you said only two of you are humans, the rest are heroes lol)

I would go earthshaker, add splinter weapon/ancestors' to that resto rit and add in an MM.

Maybe because your build is pretty terrible, your ele is bad and you probably dont have many resses on your other heroes either. Im betting you monk bars are pretty bad too. Crit barrage? (Im going to take heat from all the A/R fans now but it doesnt really fit in anywhere)There are many better options for that slot. Maybe another ele as you want to put wards on the warrior or an MM might help. Also HExes > PvE.

Post all the hero bars so we can see.

And before you reply, just because it got you that far doesnt make it good.

errr ursan with only two people, yeah i don't ursan but heres a hint u need a terratank if only to people are actually doing it because heroes are useless when going ursanway

1 ursan +terr tank + heros = UW done

If you really want to do it 2 man, the thing is: Most of UW can be solo'd by a E/A.. The only place really that cant be done my a terra is Vale ( only because during the quest, you need to keep some things alive, or kill off the enemies before they can kill the lost souls.. but as they wont target you sliver armor wont damage them)

So if people are suggesting you use that or a terra tank, you can solo the majority of the quests. Now as you aren't using a terra or perma im guessing you either dont like them, dont have access or just want the challenge of not using them.

Has Sabway been tried? or perhaps Discordway with 4 or 5 necro heroes. An imbagon would probably cut the healers some slack, but that must be a human player for obvious reasons. Also, I think you could use your warriors to a greater effect if you brought some warrior skills.. As suggested dragon slash is great for damage and SY is the best party wide buff out there atm. Its thoughtful switching between ursan but its not extremely efficient IMO

My guildie and I cleared UW with 6 heroes. He went as a Shadowform sin tank, I went as a sniper ranger. At the part where you died, he stood on one side where the horsemen come, I flagged all the heroes at the other side. He simply agroed his side and delayed them while the 6 heroes and I killed the other side, then came over to his side to complete the quest.

Like the above replies, I would say there are better options than Ursan for a 2-person team.

Agree with above. One of the two players should probably be and OF or SF tank for the horsemen quest, the rest is pretty straight forward.

You failed becuz you have bad bars.. Really take SH instead of ele attunement lol, and take a decent bar instead of URSAN URSAN GOGO, ursan only works with loads of it and HB monks, you'd be better of with SY d-slash spam bar.

Anything is possible in normal mode. You could even have Alesia and Lina heal you if they were allowed to join.

For one thing, you, your brother, and your heroes have horrible bars. Here is some example bars you could take with you.

Your brother - Earthshaker
You - DS 'SY!' Warrior
Duo Monks - WoH
Necromancer Hero - SS
Elementalist Hero - Earth Warder

The rest are optional.

Bad builds, crap bars, blahblah, etc...
Hey!
Reminder: They only have FACTIONS+GW:EN.

Recommendation: just join an Ursan Pug and do it with people, typical random pugs do it in ~2 hours

I'm sure he's trying to figure out if it is possible with two people and six heroes so he and his brother can avoid joining a PuG.

The answer is - it is absolutely possible to clear all of UW with 2 people and 6 heroes. Definitely dump Ursan - no need for you to run that build when there are only two of you. If one of you has another character, you only need one human warrior (for the Terra Tank), and use your other character to its fullest (hopefully for something that the AI fails horribly at).

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You lost because you used Ursan and some terrible heroes.

Use Dragon Slash and Save Yourselves. Buy Nightfall and run Sabway.

Better yet, buy Nightfall and roll Paragons.

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iv done both uw + fow wit me and 6 heroes ^^

Use decent builds first. (Not an Ursan flame, I mean your hero builds)

Godmode D-Slasher outputs more DPS than an Ursan, and use an Earth Shaker Warrior to keep enemies in place indefinately while keeping the ability to output big domage with Splinter and various other buffs. I suggest overlooking your team build mostly, as that seems to be the biggest problem considering you got so far to get to there.

ups no NF thats a problem


umm yea get a dslasher with saver urselfs and a erfshakur and you should be fine

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Thanks for posting your builds, it's a little more helpful to us aswell you see.
And yes, it's completely possible. I think even without the other two chapters, but your builds probably are the root of the problem.

Your Elementalist needs something to help the party, and Fire for Factions only kinda sucks. I suggest going Earth with the following:

[unsteady ground][churning earth][stoning][enfeebling blood][ward against melee][weaken armor][earth attunement][resurrection signet]
12+1+1 Earth Magic
10+1 Energy Storage
8 Curses

Your Monk's build is extremely red bars go up. You should remove all of that bar's except for Word of Healing. I suggest the following here, because all of those skills are sub-par at best.

[word of healing][patient spirit][signet of rejuvenation][mend ailment][spotless mind][protective spirit][aegis][glyph of lesser energy]
12+1+1 Healing Prayers
10+1 Protection Prayers
8+1 Divine Favour

The Crit Barrager looks fine to me to be quite honest with you.

Moving onto the other three...

I wouldn't consider using a Mesmer. I'd say use a Necromancer set to a Minion Bomber.

[animate bone minions][death nova][blood of the master][discord][parasitic bond][foul feast][rising bile][flesh of my flesh]
12+3+1 Death Magic
12+1 Soul Reaping
3 Restoration Magic

If you really want to run a Mesmer, I suggest...

[expel hexes][cry of frustration][power drain][hex breaker][arcane conundrum][clumsiness][signet of humility][flesh of my flesh]
12+1+1 Illusion Magic
10+1 Inspiration Magic
8+1 Fast Casting
2 Restoration Magic

For the Ritualist I suggest...

[weapon of warding][mend body and soul][spirit light][splinter weapon][ancestor's rage][life][attuned was songkai][hex breaker]
10+1 Restoration Magic
12+1+1 Channeling Magic
8+1 Spawning Power
2 Domination Magic

For your second Monk I suggest the exact same build as the above Monk build, except removing the condition removal and putting in Heaven's Delight.

You should really get rid of Ursan too, since with Factions you have a powerful skill for sword Warriors and Triple Chop / Cleave are quite viable as strong elites.

I suggest:

[dragon slash][brawling headbutt]["save yourselves!"][frenzy][sprint][conjure flame]["for great justice"][resurrection signet]
12+1+1 Sword Mastery
10 Fire Magic
8+1 Strength

Take out the conjure and res if you want Sever Gash for deep wound application. Make sure you are careful with Frenzy and Sprint. Sprint cancels Frenzy by the way. If you need the title just grind out over the weekend, or do HFFF. Otherwise, go with Sever Gash by removing the Res Sig.

[cleave][dismember][distracting strike][frenzy][sprint][conjure lightning]["for great justice!"][resurrection signet]

Or for Triple Chop, remove Conjure Lightning and Cleave to replace with the Triple Chop and Cyclone Axe, and swap "For Great Justice!" with Brawling Headbutt, also replace Resurrection Signet for Flesh of my Flesh. The stats are the same as the D-Slasher, but in Air Magic instead of Fire Magic. If going with Triple Chop go with 12+1 in Strength.

If you really want, swap out Frenzy and Sprint for Tiger Stance if you're uncomfortable with Frenzy to free up a slot on both builds. For the D-Slasher I suggest taking the conjure, and the axe Warrior Brawling Headbutt for the Cleave one, and Disrupting Chop for the Triple Chop one.

Stick to Ursan if you want though, but I seriously suggest otherwise.

PS: Any reason this is still in Riverside?

For being limited to two campaigns those bars aren't bad at all.

Easiest way to go about it is for one of you to play a solid damage build and the other play an A/Me Arcane Echo Shadow Form sin or Obsidian Flesh ele if you can pull it off. Use one of those builds to hold off one side of the Four Horsemen quest while the rest of the team clears the other side. You can also use them to clear other areas or tank mobs while the team kills.

If you want a quicker, less cheesy, but riskier way, you could try experimenting with these skills:

Spirit Bond instead of Shielding hands (watch hero energy. might have to use manually)
Exchange the two hex removals between monk heroes
Deny Hexes with Sig of Devotion
Reversal of Fortune
Patient Spirit
Signet of Rejuvenation
Spotless Mind

Remove Psychic Distraction
Mantra of Recovery build
Psychic Instability build
Arcane Conundrum + Power Return & lots of e-management

Put a Ward vs Melee on the fire ele
If you use a DSlash/SY! war have him take that Norn headbutt kd/adren skill to keep important targets in aoe

Abusing dumb A.I. with spirits is a good idea

Dunno what to do/replace with the crit barrager though, tbh.

Anyway I g2g but that should get er done. Good luck

At least 1 of you should bring dslash/SY instead of ursan.

Each of you have a prot sprit on one of the heroes on manual.

Bring SS and MM necros + a rit with spinter. Don't forget barbs. Splinter and barbs on manual if you're up to it.

Shutdown heroes suck.


That should do it.

I suggest you tackle Four Horsemen as soon as possible on future runs, since that is your single point of failure. Try out different builds on that quest, since that one is giving you trouble. That way you don't have to waste the whole trip only to fail at the last minute.

I'd run a [[Broad Head Arrow] Ranger with [[Volley] over the Crit Barrage hero.

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