What happened to "Dev Update Before Update?"

Zinger314

Zinger314

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Join Date: May 2006

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I'm presuming the "monster update" on Thursday will be...monster. (That was a joke. Ha ha, fat chance.)

Didn't Gaile say somewhere in April-May that the CM team would be working to get Dev updates out before updates so that people could critique them and prepare?

Even under Regina, that's still a common sense idea.

Alexandra-Sweet

Alexandra-Sweet

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Dec 2006

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Ember Power Mercenaries [EMP]

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They probably got lazy in the process, and stop stealing Portal quotes!

slowerpoke

slowerpoke

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Join Date: Jul 2007

Cuba

it is the common sense thing, but i would expect we'll it either a few hours before or after the new build.

Puebert

Puebert

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Join Date: Oct 2005

Mo/

Recently, its been like, 30 or 40 minutes after the update hasn't it?

Or am I unstuck in time?

Zinger314

Zinger314

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Join Date: May 2006

N/Me

Quote:
Originally Posted by Puebert
Recently, its been like, 30 or 40 minutes after the update hasn't it?

Or am I unstuck in time?
I recommend you find a constant, otherwise your brain might explode.

I believe GW policy is that they do Dev Updates after the Update just incase it changed. That might work for Microsoft, but not for a gaming company.

Jensy

Jensy

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Join Date: Apr 2007

Phoenix, Arizona

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It's been coming out on Wednesdays before the Thurs build, no?

If so, we'd get something about it tomorrow...

Axel Zinfandel

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Join Date: Sep 2007

Northeastern Ohio

LaZy

P/W

Quote:
Originally Posted by Zinger314
I believe GW policy is that they do Dev Updates after the Update just incase it changed. That might work for Microsoft, but not for a gaming company.
They did the first Dev Updates before, but people would panic so much that they stopped and started doing it after the update.

However, I remember them stating they were going to do this Dev Update before, so I'm sure we can expect it today or tomorrow.

Lothlorian Sassun

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Join Date: Dec 2006

Dragonestos

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Gw Player " Random Question"

Anet " We Are Working On Gw2"

Ate of DK

Ate of DK

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Oct 2005

Netherlands

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I can wait till thursday. I hope it will be worth checking.

Lykan

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Join Date: May 2005

StP

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Zinger314
I'm presuming the "monster update" on Thursday will be...monster. (That was a joke. Ha ha, fat chance.)

Didn't Gaile say somewhere in April-May that the CM team would be working to get Dev updates out before updates so that people could critique them and prepare?

Even under Regina, that's still a common sense idea.
The dev update will be released at the same time as the cake.

FoxBat

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Apr 2006

Amazon Basin [AB]

Mo/Me

Zinger's just giving us a developer complaint now before his actual complaint is released tommorow.

rayd

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Nov 2006

No Veo Na [xX]

Since when has Anet been costant with something?



Quote:
Originally Posted by Zinger314
I recommend you find a constant, otherwise your brain might explode.
ITT quotes

shoyon456

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Gaile/Anet also said they would be streamlining their website or making an entirely new one (for gw2 I believe).

They also said they would be sharing more about gw2 in 2008 as opposed to the silence of last year.

Neither of these have been seen, or are forseen in the near future either. I give up waiting for what anet has to say.

DarkWasp

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Join Date: Mar 2005

Paradise

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Sheesh, seems a little harsh to change her position just so they wouldn't have to do those things.

(Kidding ofcoarse)

Zehnchu

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Join Date: Dec 2005

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Quote:
Originally Posted by shoyon456
Gaile/Anet also said they would be streamlining their website or making an entirely new one (for gw2 I believe).

They also said they would be sharing more about gw2 in 2008 as opposed to the silence of last year.

Neither of these have been seen, or are forseen in the near future either. I give up waiting for what anet has to say.
http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Main_Page

but really what do you expect them to add?

Guild Wars 2

Coming soon

super strokey

super strokey

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Join Date: Aug 2006

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I cant wait for all the mursaat stuff to be explained

http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Mursaat

Kanyatta

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Join Date: Jun 2006

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Zinger314
That was a joke. Ha Ha, fat chance.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Alexandra-Sweet
stop stealing Portal quotes!
Best lol I've had in a while.

But yeah, I'm expecting HoM update, possibly an Ursan nerf, and for some reason, they want to buff SF, because Infinite God Mode isn't good enough I guess?

It's not going to be "monster" or really anything special imo. Being cynical is really the way to go. If you're wrong, you're surprised (in a good way), but if you're right, you get to make fun of people who aren't pessimistic.

Esan

Esan

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Join Date: Jul 2007

Wars

Quote:
Originally Posted by FoxBat
Zinger's just giving us a developer complaint now before his actual complaint is released tommorow.
If only we had more than one full time complainer working on GW1 complaints...

DarkNecrid

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Jul 2006

It actually depends. Some dev updates are before, some are after. In this case, they want to fully explain everything (or try to), but not give the update away early, so they are doing it after.

Dr Strangelove

Dr Strangelove

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Join Date: Dec 2005

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Lykan
The dev update will be released at the same time as the cake.
Based on previous information, I have reason to believe that your assertion of delicious pastry products is a falsehood, and thus chastise you for it.

Winterclaw

Winterclaw

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Florida

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Maybe the new CR changed that position or can't tell us what it is for some very good reason (or not).

The Arching Healer

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Super Kaon Action Team [SuKa]

Waiting for the dev update atm ^^

MithranArkanere

MithranArkanere

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wikipedia.org/wiki/Vigo

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We already had those Dev updates.

Search through the Dev updates and note the ones that re not done already.

Those are a sure bet.

DarkNecrid

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Join Date: Jul 2006

Again, Dev updates also involve multilingual translations which takes time, given the nature of this update, how Linsey has basically pushed QA already to the limits (to the point of not being able to remove a simple skill from an NPC, because that involves people typing it and then translating it into 9 (i think thats how many languages they translate into) languages. EDIT: OK 5, I was totally close.

They probably haven't posted one yet because they want it to be a big surprise, and because they haven't finished translating it yet even. Translations tend to be the last thing companies do for everything because they have to wait for all the notes to be finalized in the home language first.

Regina Buenaobra

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Zinger314
I'm presuming the "monster update" on Thursday will be...monster. (That was a joke. Ha ha, fat chance.)

Didn't Gaile say somewhere in April-May that the CM team would be working to get Dev updates out before updates so that people could critique them and prepare?

Even under Regina, that's still a common sense idea.
After I came on board and discussed Dev Updates and procedures with the design team, we agreed that it would be better to release both, in five languages, at about the same time so that we can ensure that both the Game Update Notes and Developer Updates are consistent with each other and are accurate.

pigdestroyer

pigdestroyer

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Join Date: Jan 2006

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what is this update everyone is talking about?

slowerpoke

slowerpoke

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Join Date: Jul 2007

Cuba

but you could rls the english one first

DarkNecrid

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Join Date: Jul 2006

Quote:
Originally Posted by pigdestroyer
what is this update everyone is talking about?
Monster update tomorrow that is going to change everything....in the world of Tyria.

Fried Tech

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Join Date: Sep 2007

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Lykan
The dev update will be released at the same time as the cake.
at that time everyone who requested cake, will be given cake. Everyone else...death

Shadowmoon

Shadowmoon

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Join Date: Jun 2006

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Regina, do we have a ETA on these note. Should we expect them this evening, or tomarrow b4 update?

Regina Buenaobra

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It's being localized over the next couple of days. The Developer Update will be published on the official wiki (also in German, French, Spanish, and Italian) just after the build is live and the Game Update Notes have been published on the website.

mazza558

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Join Date: Mar 2006

R/

Regina, does the localization process mean that the update might not be until Friday?

If the localization alone is going to take that long, this is going to be huge. Maybe.

I D E L E T E D I

I D E L E T E D I

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Quote:
Originally Posted by mazza558
There might not even be an update tomorrow, according to Izzy (or so I heard).

EDIT: Just saw the above note. Disregard this!
i wouldnt be surprised

DarkNecrid

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Join Date: Jul 2006

Quote:
Originally Posted by I D E L E T E D I
i wouldnt be surprised
It's coming tomorrow if you read the edit. Linsey confirmed it.

mazza558

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Mar 2006

R/

Quote:
Originally Posted by DarkNecrid
It's coming tomorrow if you read the edit. Linsey confirmed it.
Linky?

I couldn't find it on the talk page. Or maybe I'm blind.

I D E L E T E D I

I D E L E T E D I

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Mo/

Quote:
Originally Posted by DarkNecrid
It's coming tomorrow if you read the edit. Linsey confirmed it.
ill believe it when i see it

DarkNecrid

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Jul 2006

Thanks for reading the post I mentioned.

Here we go againnn

http://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/User_...is_responsible

I am planning to do this, but I think QA will kill me if I try to slip anything else in this weeks build. - Image:User Linsey Murdock sig.jpgLinsey talk 19:43, 5 August 2008 (UTC)

Additionally, Regina JUST MENTIONED that they are localizing the dev update notes over the next couple days to be done after the update. :hm:

Shadowmoon

Shadowmoon

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Join Date: Jun 2006

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awww after the update
Guess i'll just stalk Linseys user page, see if she let out some more gems:
Current gems:
UW and SF are getting looked at
SF damage penalty is beign reduced or removed
spectres are because ranged attackers
MONSTER update:P

Stuart444

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Alexandria, Scotland

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Quote:
Originally Posted by DarkNecrid
Thanks for reading the post I mentioned.

Here we go againnn

http://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/User_...is_responsible

I am planning to do this, but I think QA will kill me if I try to slip anything else in this weeks build. - Image:User Linsey Murdock sig.jpgLinsey talk 19:43, 5 August 2008 (UTC)

Additionally, Regina JUST MENTIONED that they are localizing the dev update notes over the next couple days to be done after the update. :hm:
this week could mean friday or the weekend, it has happened before (I forget when exactly) so you never know.

mazza558

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Mar 2006

R/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Stuart444
this week could mean friday or the weekend, it has happened before (I forget when exactly) so you never know.
We have had Saturday/Sunday updates, but only to fix exploits or bugs which impact the game in a big way. I've never seen a monster update on the weekend - I reckon it'll be Friday or Monday.