look at this build:
[build prof=A/W name="Assassin's Smash game" box dagger=9+1+1 crit=11+1+1 hammer=9 desc="Weapon #1: Vampiric daggers of fortitude{br}Weapon #2: Ebon Hammer of fortitude"][Leaping Mantis Sting][Jungle Strike][Horns of the Ox][Pulverizing Smash][Heavy Blow][Falling Spider][Blades of Steel][Way of the Assassin][/build]
Assassin's Smash game
Lord Nibiru
Turbobusa
7 attack skills
Artisan Archer
All I see is 0 defense, then it's not hard to kill stuff. Too bad you can't kill anything when you're dead.
Anyway. I think you ment to put in trampling ox (KD if crippled) io horns of the ox
Anyway. I think you ment to put in trampling ox (KD if crippled) io horns of the ox
some guy
i just died of laughter
Smal
Well the idea is fun. But i think the combo is a bit long and you wasted your elite slot because you dont have an enchant.
Swayj1020
Squishy Sins..om nom nom
what if there is more than one enemy attacking you?
what if there is more than one enemy attacking you?
Lord Nibiru
it is for a HB,and way of the assassin is changed,you don't need ench
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Originally Posted by Artisan Archer
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All I see is 0 defense, then it's not hard to kill stuff. Too bad you can't kill anything when you're dead.
Anyway. I think you ment to put in trampling ox (KD if crippled) io horns of the ox horns of the ox is better in this build,and this build will rule HB
Anyway. I think you ment to put in trampling ox (KD if crippled) io horns of the ox horns of the ox is better in this build,and this build will rule HB
Miska Bow
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Originally Posted by Lord Nibiru
horns of the ox is better in this build,and this build will rule HB
Your heroes must be kicking asses big time.
TheodenKing
"Is it dead? I don't know... Hit it with a rock!" -- Galaxy Quest
If you use 7 attacks against me... one of us will surely be dead before reaching the end of their chain. You might want to think about that for a sec.
If you use 7 attacks against me... one of us will surely be dead before reaching the end of their chain. You might want to think about that for a sec.
Lord Nibiru
A/D Grenth's Grasp Assassin
A/Mo HB Deadly Arts Sin
A/W Backbreaker Sin
A/W Golden Spike
A/W HB "Coward!" Assassin
A/W YAA Assassin
A/any WoTA Pressure Assassin
A/D WotA Scythe Sin
A/E Conjure WotA Spiker
A/N Deadly Virulence
A/P Spear Turret
A/R Disrupting Assassin
A/any BH Spike Sin
A/any Shattering Assault
The are all voted as Great Builds. Look every1 of them. Then tell me if they have any heal or protection.I showed you ALL great builds that exist.
Not even 1 have self heal or any defense.
A/Mo HB Deadly Arts Sin
A/W Backbreaker Sin
A/W Golden Spike
A/W HB "Coward!" Assassin
A/W YAA Assassin
A/any WoTA Pressure Assassin
A/D WotA Scythe Sin
A/E Conjure WotA Spiker
A/N Deadly Virulence
A/P Spear Turret
A/R Disrupting Assassin
A/any BH Spike Sin
A/any Shattering Assault
The are all voted as Great Builds. Look every1 of them. Then tell me if they have any heal or protection.I showed you ALL great builds that exist.
Not even 1 have self heal or any defense.
Marverick
So what happens if your target doesn't move?
And you don't need 7 attack skills to kill a hero.
And you don't need 7 attack skills to kill a hero.
Lord Nibiru
Why any needs to move huh? o.O
Please say something that is really good,and not this bullshit you are saying.
Please say something that is really good,and not this bullshit you are saying.
petrorabbit
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Originally Posted by Lord Nibiru
A/D Grenth's Grasp Assassin
A/Mo HB Deadly Arts Sin
A/W Backbreaker Sin
A/W Golden Spike
A/W HB "Coward!" Assassin
A/W YAA Assassin
A/any WoTA Pressure Assassin
A/D WotA Scythe Sin
A/E Conjure WotA Spiker
A/N Deadly Virulence
A/P Spear Turret
A/R Disrupting Assassin
A/any BH Spike Sin
A/any Shattering Assault
The are all voted as Great Builds. Look every1 of them. Then tell me if they have any heal or protection.I showed you ALL great builds that exist.
Not even 1 have self heal or any defense. Now let me tell you why those builds are good and yours is canine excrement. All those builds have some form of utility or an optional slot for utility. That utility skill can be something like a speed boost, escape skill, shadowstep, rez, self heal, condition removal, etc. They don't live off of a long complex combo that takes up your whole skill bar. Once one attack fails to hit via block or you being blinded, you're basically useless till you can do your chain again. The other thing you forgot is an IAS to pull off your weapon swap combo.
If you still think your build is comparable to those you mentioned, then post it on PvX and see how it ranks. I would love to see the results
A/Mo HB Deadly Arts Sin
A/W Backbreaker Sin
A/W Golden Spike
A/W HB "Coward!" Assassin
A/W YAA Assassin
A/any WoTA Pressure Assassin
A/D WotA Scythe Sin
A/E Conjure WotA Spiker
A/N Deadly Virulence
A/P Spear Turret
A/R Disrupting Assassin
A/any BH Spike Sin
A/any Shattering Assault
The are all voted as Great Builds. Look every1 of them. Then tell me if they have any heal or protection.I showed you ALL great builds that exist.
Not even 1 have self heal or any defense. Now let me tell you why those builds are good and yours is canine excrement. All those builds have some form of utility or an optional slot for utility. That utility skill can be something like a speed boost, escape skill, shadowstep, rez, self heal, condition removal, etc. They don't live off of a long complex combo that takes up your whole skill bar. Once one attack fails to hit via block or you being blinded, you're basically useless till you can do your chain again. The other thing you forgot is an IAS to pull off your weapon swap combo.
If you still think your build is comparable to those you mentioned, then post it on PvX and see how it ranks. I would love to see the results
Lord Nibiru
I miss IAS?! omg,you don't know what you are saying!!
I attack 31% faster!
Don't talk if you don't know what skills are doing,ok?
I attack 31% faster!
Don't talk if you don't know what skills are doing,ok?
BlackSephir
Guys, you're wasting your time.
http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/s...08#post4174808
http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/s...08#post4174808
petrorabbit
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Originally Posted by Lord Nibiru
I miss IAS?! omg,you don't know what you are saying!!
I attack 31% faster!
Don't talk if you don't know what skills are doing,ok? I admit, i made the post before reading the update.
And yes I will still talk because my statement still stands. Your build is canine excrement because of the lack of any utility.
And if you don't want to believe that, please post it on PvX and see how far it will go.
I attack 31% faster!
Don't talk if you don't know what skills are doing,ok? I admit, i made the post before reading the update.
And yes I will still talk because my statement still stands. Your build is canine excrement because of the lack of any utility.
And if you don't want to believe that, please post it on PvX and see how far it will go.
Lord Nibiru
I never posted there. And I don't have time for it.
You are right about no utility,but for HB that is ok.
You are right about no utility,but for HB that is ok.
Xebedinct
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Originally Posted by Lord Nibiru
I never posted there. And I don't have time for it.
You are right about no utility,but for HB that is ok. The point is that your attack chain is too long, and with weapon switching it's just ridiculous really. You'd be dead before you can pull it off.
You are right about no utility,but for HB that is ok. The point is that your attack chain is too long, and with weapon switching it's just ridiculous really. You'd be dead before you can pull it off.
Lord Nibiru
I do all chain in 4 sec. I don't have problem living in HB.
Try build 1st.
Try build 1st.
BlackSephir
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Originally Posted by Lord Nibiru
Try build 1st.
An ecto for every time I've heard that.
Accursed
That build is disgusting.
Tyla
A: No forms of utility.
b: The chain is extremely long. Sure there's plenty of KD's but it lasts ages.
b: The chain is extremely long. Sure there's plenty of KD's but it lasts ages.
Neverending Silence
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Originally Posted by Lord Nibiru
look at this build:
i looked...i laughed
X Cytherea X
it's a good build, lord nibiru dude. like the bb sin but sexier cuz you swap twice. forget them naysayers. most sin bars are all offense, especially in hb where you design your heroes to fill in the gaps. thumbs up.
Rhamia Darigaz
woah wait there was an update yesterday, maybe it made this build good.
look, they changed wota!... oh, wait. it got nerfed.
the builds even worse now Y_Y
look, they changed wota!... oh, wait. it got nerfed.
the builds even worse now Y_Y
Bobby2
1. Your runes are off. 9+1 Dagger pl0x?
2. Are you counting on the Cripple or not?
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Originally Posted by X Cytherea X
2. Are you counting on the Cripple or not?
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it's a good build, lord nibiru dude. like the bb sin but sexier cuz you swap twice. forget them naysayers. most sin bars are all offense, especially in hb where you design your heroes to fill in the gaps. thumbs up.
Heh. The BB sin doesn't gimp itself by actually trying to use the Hammer for damage.
RavagerOfDreams
best build i've ever seen...ever
joshuarodger
i know almost nothing about sins. i do know something about melee characters though and that is not a good build at all. the reasons have already been mentioned so i won't go into it. it's just terrible.
snaek
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Originally Posted by Lord Nibiru
I do all chain in 4 sec. I don't have problem living in HB.
Try build 1st. 7 attacks in 4secs?
even before the wota nerf, and if u wore a sup crit to get 37% ias
that would still take 7~8s
to get 7 attacks in 4secs, u'd need a +100% ias
good luk tryin to get anet to give u one of those
not to mention theres no damage bonus and no deepwound in that combo
and do u realize that most ppl in hb have running and blocking stances/enchants?
Try build 1st. 7 attacks in 4secs?
even before the wota nerf, and if u wore a sup crit to get 37% ias
that would still take 7~8s
to get 7 attacks in 4secs, u'd need a +100% ias
good luk tryin to get anet to give u one of those
not to mention theres no damage bonus and no deepwound in that combo
and do u realize that most ppl in hb have running and blocking stances/enchants?
Bowstring Badass
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Originally Posted by snaek
u'd need a 100% ias
The old [i will avenge you] before they fixed it could stack past 100%.
Boba Chick
1. 99% people here saying long chain are probably not even on HB ladder
2. its better to have 13/14 on dagger and crit and 3 on hammer
3. way of assasin nerf = u need to tweak the build for different IAS and find a good elite. i would suggest YAA, tramp ox replace horn, take out pulverizing because heavy blow will still work. this way the chain can go 2 ways instead of 1 predictable way
4. i'll give it a run
2. its better to have 13/14 on dagger and crit and 3 on hammer
3. way of assasin nerf = u need to tweak the build for different IAS and find a good elite. i would suggest YAA, tramp ox replace horn, take out pulverizing because heavy blow will still work. this way the chain can go 2 ways instead of 1 predictable way
4. i'll give it a run
Damian979
I think what everyone is trying to say is this will only work if you run up against someone that is really bad, this might work. As soon as you get blocked, knocked down yourself, interupted, crippled first, your stance removed, etc. etc. you are screwed.
There is no way here to adjust or recover if your chain doesn't fall perfectly in place.
There is no way here to adjust or recover if your chain doesn't fall perfectly in place.
RedGummyBear
This build is made of copious amounts of fail D:
Painbringer
I guess no heal no exrta defense no shadow step for surprise bothers me the most. If I was running a mesmer against this I would hex the heck out of you before you got to me.
fireflyry
A bar with nothing but [frenzy] and [mending] can work in HB half the time.
That does'nt make it a good bar, neither is this.
That does'nt make it a good bar, neither is this.
Boba Chick
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Originally Posted by fireflyry
A bar with nothing but [frenzy] and [mending] can work in HB half the time.
That does'nt make it a good bar, neither is this. rank in HB? if that really works, then it is a good bar.
way of assasin is already nerfed so it has to be replaced by another elite. refer to my last post, this build can be fixed. but the point is that there is 6 attack skills at least and 1 elite, making the IAS very limited in choices. flail and flurry can all be good IAS but all have downsides. frenzy has to go with dash because it wont work by itself but then u will need another slot. after the tweak, this build will look very similar to the YAA build and it will just be a variant of YAA.
everyone:
dont argue about the long chain because it will only prove that u dont HB
dont ask why u need IAS because it also proves that u dont HB
dont say that this build has no utility, prot, heal, etc. because it further proves u dont HB
this thread should have ended as soon as the nerf came which is 1 day after the buff lol. was fun trying some builds
That does'nt make it a good bar, neither is this. rank in HB? if that really works, then it is a good bar.
way of assasin is already nerfed so it has to be replaced by another elite. refer to my last post, this build can be fixed. but the point is that there is 6 attack skills at least and 1 elite, making the IAS very limited in choices. flail and flurry can all be good IAS but all have downsides. frenzy has to go with dash because it wont work by itself but then u will need another slot. after the tweak, this build will look very similar to the YAA build and it will just be a variant of YAA.
everyone:
dont argue about the long chain because it will only prove that u dont HB
dont ask why u need IAS because it also proves that u dont HB
dont say that this build has no utility, prot, heal, etc. because it further proves u dont HB
this thread should have ended as soon as the nerf came which is 1 day after the buff lol. was fun trying some builds
Bowstring Badass
Quote:
Originally Posted by Boba Chick
dont argue about the long chain because it will only prove that u dont HB
Who cares a 7 attack chain combo is bad no matter how you look at it. Be it for AB, RA, HA, HB, TA, GvG, PVE. Dont encourage crappy builds and can a mod lock this thread nothing but flame warz.
Who cares a 7 attack chain combo is bad no matter how you look at it. Be it for AB, RA, HA, HB, TA, GvG, PVE. Dont encourage crappy builds and can a mod lock this thread nothing but flame warz.
X Cytherea X
Quote:
Originally Posted by Boba Chick
everyone:
dont argue about the long chain because it will only prove that u dont HB
dont ask why u need IAS because it also proves that u dont HB
dont say that this build has no utility, prot, heal, etc. because it further proves u dont HB
this thread should have ended as soon as the nerf came which is 1 day after the buff lol. was fun trying some builds yeah what he said
dont argue about the long chain because it will only prove that u dont HB
dont ask why u need IAS because it also proves that u dont HB
dont say that this build has no utility, prot, heal, etc. because it further proves u dont HB
this thread should have ended as soon as the nerf came which is 1 day after the buff lol. was fun trying some builds yeah what he said
Luminarus
I came, I saw, I lol'd
Nugh Said
Nugh Said
Zodiac Meteor
HB = [Healers Boon] 
ROFL, jk
Edit (again): Shouldn't this go in the Hero Battles forum?
Edit (Again Again) OMFG I FEEL STUPID!!! I thought [Pulverizing Smash] Made you lose all adrenaline. And I thought, Fail. But, this isn't that bad, I see the combo that I couldn't see. /delete pictures This build is pretty good. Now, lets see it in action
Edit (Final Time): I tested this build in HB. I went up against this monk that had [shield of deflection] and another monk with [Word of Healing]. I had trouble at first, because of SoD. I put pressure on the monk player, he casts SoD. I go after hero monk, he was screwed. Good Job. Just on your main post its for HB. Or at least list it on HB forums. So you won't get confused PvE people.
ROFL, jkEdit (again): Shouldn't this go in the Hero Battles forum?
Edit (Again Again) OMFG I FEEL STUPID!!! I thought [Pulverizing Smash] Made you lose all adrenaline. And I thought, Fail. But, this isn't that bad, I see the combo that I couldn't see. /delete pictures This build is pretty good. Now, lets see it in action
Edit (Final Time): I tested this build in HB. I went up against this monk that had [shield of deflection] and another monk with [Word of Healing]. I had trouble at first, because of SoD. I put pressure on the monk player, he casts SoD. I go after hero monk, he was screwed. Good Job. Just on your main post its for HB. Or at least list it on HB forums. So you won't get confused PvE people.