New Permasin Chaos Build

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Join Date: Aug 2008

Mo/Me

http://www.pvxwiki.com/wiki/Build:A/E_Perma_Sliver_Form

I was in ToA just selling ecto's and a sin running that bar said he had gotten 9 ectos in 50 minutes. I got the build from him and he left, now im suck figuring out whether or not this can even be done.

Problems:
1. Killing off 1 Banshee With only sliver
2. Avoiding attaxs with no speed boost
3. If you decide to bunch Graspings and Attaxs all together, like the old burning days, will it only kill the graspings so you can run to the Chaos Planes.
4. The recharge of your only damage dealer is long enough to give Mindblades, Banished, and Wailing time to regen health if there are not initially killed.

Now this may have many problems but i have a hunch we can go back to quick Chaos Farming, put your mind together boys ectos are hotter than ever.

the kurzick eater

the kurzick eater

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Join Date: Sep 2007

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wat

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if you are talking about the chaos planes, they now spawn stuff with sig enchant removals... aka shadow form no workie thar

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Join Date: Aug 2006

Order Of The Ghost Dragons [mist]

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recent update has changed the chaos planes yet again...


Underworld changes

* Reapers now become invulnerable once all quests have been completed in the Underworld.
* Replaced Cursed Dream Riders with Banished Dream Riders.
* Shortened the distance Banished Dream Riders will follow a player.
* Banished Dream Riders now stand stationary and overlook a small complement of added Wailing Lords.
* Mindblade Spectres' base attack is now ranged.
* Increased the Health of Mindblade Spectres by 500.
* Reduced the run speed of Mindblade Spectres.

http://guildwars.wikia.com/wiki/Game_updates

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Join Date: Aug 2008

Mo/Me

WHAT?! since when? i thought they took that out

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Yesterday's Update
Replaced Cursed Dream Riders with Banished Dream Riders. What enchantment removal?

EDIT; Even BEFORE they removed it, SF still worked. You just couldn't CLEAR the plains. the kurzick eater doesn't know what he's talking about

Anyways, the build should work. It would be annoying to group them all up, as they're ranged, move slowly and don't follow far. You'd be limited to one group at a time.

a ez name

a ez name

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jun 2008

A/E

actually latest update, they removed cursed riders, all enemies( in plains) are able to be farmed.

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Join Date: Aug 2008

Mo/Me

Yea theres no enchant removal it just takes too long, with that new 500 hp bonus its like farming attaxs smite runs on a warrior is quicker and more efficient now only 1-2 ectos a run for 20 mins, not as good as 20 mins and 4-5 at chaos

Spiritz

Forge Runner

Join Date: Apr 2007

DMFC

I do recall before sliver sf being used in uw and no speed boost was used - and probably the burning build didnt have speed boost neither ( burning speed for 5 secs i dont regard as a speed boost ).
You kill the grasps and stroll about and aatxes tend to give up the chase after a while - im sure other uw sins explain the process or have in other posts already.
As for saying 9 ectos in 50 mins - he may have had a lucky run after resting uw for a while , in uw ( and gw wholey ) nothing certain drop wise ... i recall seeing loads of ppl saying wow uw and sin gave me 10 ectos ... but how many have they got previous run- i know a guildie who was happy he got 12 in 1 run and was swearing after 4 runs which he only got 1 ecto a time lol.

Ultima pyromancer

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Join Date: Jan 2007

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Quote:
Originally Posted by My Lipgloss is Cool
What enchantment removal?

EDIT; Even BEFORE they removed it, SF still worked. You just couldn't CLEAR the plains. the kurzick eater doesn't know what he's talking about

Anyways, the build should work. It would be annoying to group them all up, as they're ranged, move slowly and don't follow far. You'd be limited to one group at a time. The mindblades do follow far.. i was able to group 4 spawns of 3-8 mindblades together at the statue. Its only the dream riders you cant pull.

I did a run, took 45 mins and i got :

4 Golds
5k of merch loot (full inventory)
4 ectos
1 lockpick

All in Hard mode. The slowest part IMO was killing off the graping darknesses.. but that was like 5 minutes, so its still VERY doable

EDIT: Picz or it dint happen -



anybody wanna count? 30+

R.Shayne

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Oct 2007

33 minutes into the farm I had cleared the first four banished dream riders and the ones around the back, decided to go get the ones at the dryder door.



, and the final results after 50 minutes and clear all of chaos plains



At the end I had 9 ecto, 3 gold, 1 scroll, 1 sapphire, and loot.

[Glyph of Swiftness][Deadly Paradox][shadow form][Glyph of Lesser Energy][Ebon Battle Standard of Honor][Sliver Armor][Air of Superiority][Light of Deldrimor]

Drop [Light of Deldrimor] it was useless. [Dark Escape] worked better for me.
I was using my raptor build but Ultima's build looks better.

Forgot to mention this run was Normal Mode but didn't make difference, both seem to take the same amount of time.

Winterclaw

Winterclaw

Wark!!!

Join Date: May 2005

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If you can't use AoS because you are saving that quest for Norn rep farming, what would be a good skill to replace it with?

R.Shayne

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Oct 2007

Quote:
Originally Posted by Winterclaw
If you can't use AoS because you are saving that quest for Norn rep farming, what would be a good skill to replace it with? [Intensity] looks pretty good, I just use [Air of Superiority] as a e-manager so not really needed, just ensure you have 30E to recast Shadow Form.

Forgot to mention, you can hard mode farm the Fenrir cave with this build too to get Norn points. (where the new maul drops). Bring [Radiation Field] as your optional skill, run skill is good because you have to run to the cave.

Joe Fierce

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Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Feb 2007

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OwZTkY/8ZS6jHRnBZwFkHKXcCCA go go, requires a little thought on energy but not much if you know basic math and timing, you know when to cast, gg.. farms pits and aataxes too if you wanna waste your time

Cersei

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Jul 2008

Mara

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I haven't got any of those Eotn skills so does this build still work?

http://www.pvxwiki.com/wiki/Build:A/..._Planes_Farmer

Marty Silverblade

Marty Silverblade

Administrator

Join Date: Jun 2006

Afaik it does.

spyke136

spyke136

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Aug 2006

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how are drop rates in pits? i dont really want to "waste" my time

a ez name

a ez name

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jun 2008

A/E

after using the earth & fire builds personally i think the fire build is faster. Drop rates was same for me, average 2-5 ectos per run. If u keep your health around 55 with fire build everything goes much faster since they dont kite from LF (nm). Only diff i could tell was sliver took longer 1hr 25 minutes, fire took 52 minutes. And as for pits i dont think its worth the extra time it takes bc i have only ever got 1 ecto from there (per run), and thats clearing whole area.Of course that could be my over farming of uw. *shrugs

uzumaki

uzumaki

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Aug 2005

GW

Me/

this takes too long ~1hr

i can do a smite run in 9/10 minutes (NM) and 6 smites runs will net more than 1 chaos planes clear im sure

a ez name

a ez name

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jun 2008

A/E

Any good sin farm smite build ?

Elite Bushido

Elite Bushido

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jun 2007

NY

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Quote:
Originally Posted by a ez name
Any good sin farm smite build ? to lazy to search?

a ez name

a ez name

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jun 2008

A/E

Quote:
Originally Posted by Elite Bushido
to lazy to search?
FYI i did search then i asked if anyone had a "good" assasain build for smites, which i did not find any "good" smite build in posts or pvxwiki.

Elite Bushido

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Join Date: Jun 2007

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wow, stupid PvX got rid of the build just because it wasnt perma

=|


but anyways
OwZSo4PP4iyqOzYAMyZDj0M

Ultima pyromancer

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Join Date: Jan 2007

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Elite Bushido
wow, stupid PvX got rid of the build just because it wasnt perma

=|


but anyways
OwZSo4PP4iyqOzYAMyZDj0M NM Ftl

My build was ok, i dont have battle standard of honor (gay grind.) maybe try incorporating that into it. The 3rd glyph is elemental power btw, was just a bar filler tbh.

It is painful to watch the mindblades take so long to kill.. even hitting for 21's the +500hp buff is pretty harsh on it.

I enjoyed doing the run though.. I love stupidly big aggros then using sliver armor watching those ectos drop =D

But i dont suggest normal mode, its slower IMO with the slow attack speed and inability to pull as many groups

Joe Fierce

Joe Fierce

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Join Date: Feb 2007

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My opinion, with how long it takes, lets just let it die, time to move on and find something new, because this obviously isn't worth it as much anymore... Lets get our farming minds grinding away some newer ideas!

I mean hell, no one should fear testing a build anymore, if you think you're gonna die in there trying to learn it, unyielding aura monk inside the labyrinth behind benton = lawls.

Ultima pyromancer

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Join Date: Jan 2007

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Joe Fierce
My opinion, with how long it takes, lets just let it die, time to move on and find something new, because this obviously isn't worth it as much anymore... Lets get our farming minds grinding away some newer ideas!

I mean hell, no one should fear testing a build anymore, if you think you're gonna die in there trying to learn it, unyielding aura monk inside the labyrinth behind benton = lawls. Until they completly nerf shadow form or sliver armor, or again the chaos plains, this build will still be more effective than any other ecto farmer.

Sure you could run a smite build that clears the wastes in 10 minutes, it still wouldn't be as efficient as plains, even if plains takes 1 30 hours its still more productive imo

Joe Fierce

Joe Fierce

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Feb 2007

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Yea, it's still great for those who are lucky enough to get that many on a run, but, the past 3 runs were anywhere from 3-5ectos a run, and that wasn't too nice to meh, but, hell, since yall say it's still the tops i'll give it a go again, what seems to be the build that's ontopofitall currently? which one is so far seeming to be the best one atm?

Elite Bushido

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Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jun 2007

NY

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Ultima pyromancer
NM Ftl

My build was ok, i dont have battle standard of honor (gay grind.) maybe try incorporating that into it. The 3rd glyph is elemental power btw, was just a bar filler tbh.

It is painful to watch the mindblades take so long to kill.. even hitting for 21's the +500hp buff is pretty harsh on it.

I enjoyed doing the run though.. I love stupidly big aggros then using sliver armor watching those ectos drop =D

But i dont suggest normal mode, its slower IMO with the slow attack speed and inability to pull as many groups i was talkin bout smites...