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Ultima pyromancer

Lion's Arch Merchant

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Club Of A Thousand Pandas [LOD???]

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10 Aug 2008 at 01:56 - 1

Ok, so i got to thinking the other day how they never got round to giving Prophecies or Factions heroes after they came up with the idea of them. Then i was thinking who could we use as heroes?

So heres my idea

Legendary Heroes

You can only have one Legendary Hero in your party at a time.

Prince Rurik - The Original Hero of Guild Wars
Master Togo - you see his power in the Bonus Mission Pack but you never get to know him through factions
Komir - Yes all she does is stand there.

*SPOILER DONT READ IF YOU CARE ABOUT THE STORY LINE OF ANY OF THE GAMES*

Now i am aware that all of thos have died at some point in the game lmao, but we still get them in the missions if you go back to re do them, so why not have them as heroes?

This is probably the only downside of the idea.. Yea it's a pretty big one, but i think just for old times sake, it would be awesome to have prince rurik fighting with you. Probably for places like Tahnkai Temple where the ghost of Togo rests and places where they are in the missions with you, he should be called Canthan Ritualist or something, same for Rurik and the last mission

I think they should be used as an endgame reward, maybe after attaining Guardian of that specific campaign

Well thats about it, feel free to add suggestions/flame

add them for the lulz factor

Harvester of Sorrows

Academy Page

Join Date: Apr 2008

The Fathers of Faith

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10 Aug 2008 at 02:20 - 2

Honestly, I don't think that would be much of an incentive. I'd personally hate to have any of them in my party, especially Rurik.
I do like the idea of some sort of reward for those who obtain a title like that.

Luminarus

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Aug 2007

Sydney, Australia

Haze of Light [pure]

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10 Aug 2008 at 02:21 - 3

Why bother? Not saying bad idea, just curious as to the point. Got enough warrior heroes, could us another para/rit but 2 is enough, and its a bit of a plot hole for them to exist

Shayne Hawke

Departed from Tyria

Join Date: May 2007

Clan Dethryche [dth]

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10 Aug 2008 at 02:28 - 4

for the lulz, please. and teams of triple-para or triple-rit heroes for more lulz.

/signed

Accursed

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Sep 2007

10 Aug 2008 at 02:32 - 5

/signed - It would be great to see Rurik's leeroying into a H&H team. Wonderful idea!

Lady Raenef

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Feb 2007

Oregon, USA.

Zero Mercy [zm]

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10 Aug 2008 at 02:38 - 6

I'd rather have more BMP ideas but I want to climb into the role of Rurik during the Searing leading up to the point where he takes you out of Ascalon.

R.Shayne

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Oct 2007

10 Aug 2008 at 02:46 - 7

I think I would flag Rurik into a mob just for the pleasure of watching him die.

Kyomi Tachibana

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jul 2007

Oregon, USA

Where iz teh Bonuz [WitB]

P/W

10 Aug 2008 at 02:54 - 8

Quote:

Originally Posted by R.Shayne

I think I would flag Rurik into a mob just for the pleasure of watching him die.

Combine with the new Unyielding Aura for ultimate lulz.

Sigma Onkoron

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Sep 2007

Basement

10 Aug 2008 at 03:08 - 9

/not signed

why do you need more heros? There are already enough in the game.

-Makai-

Jungle Guide

Join Date: May 2007

WA

DH

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10 Aug 2008 at 03:11 - 10

It would screw the lore up too much. Now, if we were allowed to add companions that span across the whole game (Devona, Aidan, Eve, etc.) as Heroes, I'd be down for it. Since heroes are limited to three, it wouldn't mess anything up--just add more aesthetic options. Just replace the henchman name to Tyian <profession>.

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Originally Posted by Lady Raenef

I'd rather have more BMP ideas but I want to climb into the role of Rurik during the Searing leading up to the point where he takes you out of Ascalon.

Now this would be an amazing idea. I can imagine playing as Rurik with Devona, Cynn, Eve, Aidan, Mhenlo and Warmaster Tydus as allies. Add in a 7th ally called Novice <profession> who has the same primary and look as your character, donned with starter armor. This bonus mission could be accessed in Lion's Arch and only available to Prophecies characters. Weapons earned would be called Ascalonian or Rin <weapon>.

Rhamia Darigaz

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Apr 2008

10 Aug 2008 at 03:23 - 11

why would you want three paragon heroes if you're h/hing?
you'll need that third hero slot for your orders derv

credit

Banned

Join Date: Jan 2008

Team Apathy [aFk]

W/P

10 Aug 2008 at 04:12 - 12

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sigma Onkoron

why do you need more heros? There are already enough in the game.

None of them are legendary, I want legends.

Sigma Onkoron

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Sep 2007

Basement

10 Aug 2008 at 04:33 - 13

Legends.... Koss is a freaking legend

And what would they offer? Another sign of how pro they aren't.
Seriously I could see it now the pm's "dewd i haz legend heroes i r so cool come look at dem"

You don't need Legendary heroes. Normal heroes are good enough.

credit

Banned

Join Date: Jan 2008

Team Apathy [aFk]

W/P

10 Aug 2008 at 04:45 - 14

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sigma Onkoron

You don't need Legendary heroes. Normal heroes are good enough.

I don't think you understood me, I need legends.

spyke136

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Aug 2006

W/

10 Aug 2008 at 05:00 - 15

the man needs what he needs lol

and /signed, why not, i can't really think of a reason not to but yeah there should def be an interesting quest/mission to unlock them.

Zahr Dalsk

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Aug 2007

Canada

10 Aug 2008 at 05:00 - 16

/notsignedyet

First, remove the hero cap. Then give us heroes. It's ridiculous that we have 25 heroes to choose from and yet we can only use three of them.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Harvester of Sorrows

I do like the idea of some sort of reward for those who obtain a title like that.

Rewarding titles is bad.

obsidian ectoplasm

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jan 2008

10 Aug 2008 at 05:53 - 17

Quote:

Originally Posted by credit

None of them are legendary, I want legends.

^^ We want like Abbadon or soemthing not these ugly looking price Rurik's

Hermos

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jul 2007

Forever in Demand [FiD]

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10 Aug 2008 at 06:51 - 18

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zahr Dalsk

/notsignedyet

First, remove the hero cap. Then give us heroes. It's ridiculous that we have 25 heroes to choose from and yet we can only use three of them.

Overpowered, much? =\

MithranArkanere

Underworld Spelunker

Join Date: Nov 2006

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Heraldos de la Llama Oscura [HLO]

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10 Aug 2008 at 10:09 - 19

Those are dead.
And NPCs that are already henchmen can't absolute be Heroes.

Want REALLY legendary heroes?
- Evennia
- The Dopplelganger.
- Prophecies and Factions instructors that are not Heroes nor dead.
-- Elementalist Aziure
-- Necromaner Munne.
-- Duke Barradin
-- Ang the Ephemeral
-- Etc...
- A Forgotten one.
- A Tengu.

Althought there is a way I would accept Rurik, Shiro, Varesh and Khilbrom as Heroes:
- Get Razah.
- Go back to the Heart of Abaddon.
- You'll find them there. Once Abaddon is dead, they are free of its taint, but they are still trapped.
- The Envoys will appear. They explain that although they were tainted, they still made bad things, so they must pay. They also say that if you fight in the name of the gods for them, you may be able to free them.
- You fight the Envoys one by one. For each envoy you defeat, you free of of them.
- You get them as normal level 20 heroes, and they become normal humans again (well, more something like Razah) and have the same power as other heroes, since they are stripped of the powers granted by Abbadon.
That would fit the lore.

Herald Demrikov would be a Warrior/Paragon/Monk
Emissary Heleyne would be a Necro/Mesmer/Ele
Courier Torivos would be a Ranger/Ritualist.
Messenger Vetaura would be an Assassin/Dervish
And they would be insanely overpowered, since you'll fight them one by one.
Each one would be immune to a type of damage, two conditions and one type of skill: And, even you'll have to fight them one by one, you'll have to beat them all without leaving the area to get the heroes.

Kormir can't be a Hero, since she became the Goddess of Truth.

Bulletdodger

Academy Page

Join Date: May 2008

Ex Yugoslavia [ExYu]

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10 Aug 2008 at 11:28 - 20

/signed
But I would rather have the envoys as heroes than Kormir , Rurik and Togo.

Konig Des Todes

Ooo, pretty flower

Join Date: Jan 2008

Citadel of the Decayed

The Archivists' Sanctum [Lore]

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10 Aug 2008 at 18:31 - 21

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sante_Kelm

It would screw the lore up too much.

This is why I /notsign.

Quote:

Now, if we were allowed to add companions that span across the whole game (Devona, Aidan, Eve, etc.) as Heroes, I'd be down for it. Since heroes are limited to three, it wouldn't mess anything up--just add more aesthetic options. Just replace the henchman name to Tyian <profession>.

Or... Remove all henchmen, increase hero size to 5 or 7, and add the henchmen as heroes. (I would love to see simply 3 of every profession, and to have Devona and co. as heroes, but then it would be 4 of Warrior, Necromancer, Monk, Elementalist, and Ranger... remove some side heroes? XD).

I would love more hero options just for the same of having different looking heroes follow you around. If you have any storyline NPC from Prophecies and/or Factions, they would have to be living after the game, unless they show up as a "Ghostly Hero"

. Ghost Rurik fighting Charr ftw!

Sword Hammer Axe

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jun 2008

Look up.

Kurzick Conflagration Unit [KCU].

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10 Aug 2008 at 21:10 - 22

No. It would not even fit with the storyline. They should rather make something like "Legendary unique weapons" Such as "Ruriks fiery dragon sword" Or "Spear of Kormir" and such. But not legendary heros. Rurik is dead. He died in the mountains (And again later lol) and Kormir is a god now and togo is also dead. Where would you fit that into the story?

Lishy

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jan 2008

11 Aug 2008 at 01:57 - 23

It would screw up the lore and I don't imagine this happening..
However, because Guild Wars needs more "Come!", I am /signing just so I can see Master Togo's "Come!" again

Thizzle

Banned

Join Date: Apr 2008

11 Aug 2008 at 01:59 - 24

I don't think they have to be Legendary. They're not worth getting Guardian for because many people can't even do that.

Dark-NighT

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Dec 2006

Stygian Veil

Shoop Da Woop [Lolz]

N/Mo

11 Aug 2008 at 02:28 - 25

Gimme shiro as hero anyday, hes legend in the evil sense of things, it would be a blast havin shiro running around doing impossible odds in old ascalon

Zahr Dalsk

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Aug 2007

Canada

11 Aug 2008 at 02:32 - 26

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hermos

Overpowered, much? =\

No, because guilds can already form teams.

DURRRRRRR (Sorry but this has been explained again and again and still people call it overpowered... they haven't even SEEN it because ArenaNet won't give a no-hero-caps weekend just to test it.)

A full hero team would not be as good as a skilled team of human friends. So how come YOU aren't asking to put a cap on the number of humans in a party? Eh? Answer me that before you call a 7-hero team overpowered.

Cebe

The 5th Celestial Boss

Join Date: Jul 2006

Inverness, Scotland

The Cult of Scaro [WHO]

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11 Aug 2008 at 09:29 - 27

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ultima pyromancer

Now i am aware that all of thos have died at some point in the game lmao, but we still get them in the missions if you go back to re do them, so why not have them as heroes?

Yea, that's a major flaw in your plan.

Rurik died.

Togo died and is now represented by a spirit in Tahnnakai Temple.

Kormir is a God with far more important things than helping you to be doing.

If this were to be implemented you'd need to use NPCs who weren't dead. NPCs like Evennia, Kuunavang and Kehani.

Give 'em one overpowered un-removable Monster skill each like:

Evennia: "LOLZ I heal you all!" - Shout - Heal all party members for 900HP. Party members below 25% health gain +30 Health Regeneration.

Kuunavang: Dark Chain Lightning, of course!

Kehani: "LULZ NOW U CAN CHEAT @ PvE!!" - Shout - Interrupt target foe's action, if that action was a spell your party shares 20 platinum.

...hold on. Scrap that. PvE doesn't need to be made any easier.

Tatile

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Sep 2007

Stygian Disciples of Tenebrasus

N/Me

11 Aug 2008 at 09:39 - 28

While the idea of free Platinum is fun, that just won't work. Hehe.

How would we be able to bring their dead, mangled and rotten husks back to serve us? It just doesn't seem feasible. Besides, I much prefer the idea of making Henchmen into Heroes and doing away with the hero cap, if only that I can get into hench-less areas on my own. I want to see some playful banter between Odurra and Gwen as well.

Sage Tylos

Academy Page

Join Date: Jul 2008

<none>

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12 Aug 2008 at 00:25 - 29

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ultima pyromancer

Ok, so i got to thinking the other day how they never got round to giving Prophecies or Factions heroes after they came up with the idea of them. Then i was thinking who could we use as heroes.

EotN is sort of an extension of prophecies, so the EotN heroes can be thought of as proph heroes from from that point of view.

Crom The Pale

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Nov 2006

Ageis Ascending

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12 Aug 2008 at 03:35 - 30

I really loved the idea of a special or "epic" hero, when Nightfall came out we all thought that Razah would be such a thing.

Now if these 3 Legendary Hero's had some X factor that set them above other heros/hench then this would work for me.

How about each of them comes with a "Monster only skill" appropriate to chapter they are from or the class they are?

I would give Ruric either [Giant Stomp] or [Fingers of Chaos]

For Kormir it would be [Call of Sacrifice] or [Corsair's Net] or even [Earth Vortex]

Togo could make use of [Song of the Mists] or [Dark Chain Lightning]

And we should add one more Legendary Hero into the end of GW:EN. Complete Slavers Exile to aquire....

Killroy Stonekin complete with his shout

Barrett

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Feb 2006

UK

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16 Aug 2008 at 23:39 - 31

DO NOT READ IF U WANT TO SEE PROHECHIES STORY FOR SELF!!!

Rurik cannot b hero would not be possible for story
he was killed but the Lich brought him back(fair enuff he has the scepter which is powerfull item)
but after defeating the undead rurik he insists u kill him

so unless u use the scepter again on way out of the erupting island no rurik
and he'd be an undead rurik at that
unless your saying you have more skill at using the staffs power at reanimating somebody then the Lich lord himself?

FlamingMetroid

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Sep 2007

standing on your last control point, while the rest of your team is to busy killing mine

The Luminaries [Lumi]

A/

17 Aug 2008 at 00:38 - 32

I hate all of those characters way to much to actually use them, even if they were ridiculously overpowered

Div

I like yumy food!

Join Date: Jan 2006

Where I can eat yumy food

Dead Alley [dR]

Mo/R

17 Aug 2008 at 01:03 - 33

I want young gwen as a legendary hero

Shadowspawn X

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jun 2005

Fellowship of Champions

R/E

17 Aug 2008 at 03:57 - 34

/signed

A great idea, implementation is shabby but a very nice concept.

Barrett

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Feb 2006

UK

W/

17 Aug 2008 at 10:48 - 35

Also thinking about it(do not read if u dont want to know factions/nightfall storyline)
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togo is also dead from shiro so he is out of here too

and kormir turned into a god
so unless gods get time of work then.. This is a dumb idea....

And why have only 1 legendary in team at a time kinda pointless unless they are lv21 or 25 or something i'd jsut replace with a hero that doesnt piss me off
bye rurik hi koss
bye kormir hi Morgahn
bye togo hi Xandra

ShadowsRequiem

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Oct 2005

Inde is Smoking [Hawt] *ToA*

W/E

17 Aug 2008 at 16:01 - 36

Isnt YOUR character a Legendary hero I mean you saved the world what.... 3 times now.... actually 4

Don Doggy

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Oct 2006

W/

17 Aug 2008 at 19:38 - 37

/notsigned
I don't see the point in more heroes unless they remove the hero limit. Also not really a big fan of any of those characters.

daze

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Aug 2008

In my own mind

The Dragon Exchange

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18 Aug 2008 at 09:51 - 38

Quote:

Originally Posted by obsidian ectoplasm

^^ We want like Abbadon or soemthing not these ugly looking price Rurik's

.
YES brilliant, what about one of the gods as a legendary hero.
I wouldnt mind running around with Balthazar ripping bodies in half and striking down foes.
Or Dwayna as something of a supermonk or uberhealer.
Or grenth as maybe some kind of super MM with either 20 minion cap or 10 Flesh golems that turn jagged when they die.
Lyssa sure would look pretty funny though just kinda hovering if they use her Sun form. The task would have to be great for such a powerful reward.

>>Id like to hear some other peoples ideas on what the job should be for God Heros<<< like what would melendru be? like a nature spirit spammer?

/doubleSigned

But a 3 Para hero team does sound pretty nice, Why do necros have to be the only ones that come in 3s? Hello Imbagon

Quote:

Originally Posted by Crom The Pale

Killroy Stonekin complete with his shout

Cebe

The 5th Celestial Boss

Join Date: Jul 2006

Inverness, Scotland

The Cult of Scaro [WHO]

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18 Aug 2008 at 10:43 - 39

Quote:

Originally Posted by daze

Quote:

Originally Posted by obsidian ectoplasm

^^ We want like Abbadon or soemthing not these ugly looking price Rurik's

YES brilliant, what about one of the gods as a legendary hero.

Clearly, after Guild Wars: Nightfall Abaddon is to be trusted... -_-

daze

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Aug 2008

In my own mind

The Dragon Exchange

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18 Aug 2008 at 11:00 - 40

Quote:

Originally Posted by Celestial Beaver

Clearly, after Guild Wars: Nightfall Abaddon is to be trusted... -_-

You should have kept reading my post, I was commending the concept of God heros. Even if it is not viable, its still fun to imagine what it would be like.
My enthusiasm was directed towards the rest of the gods(not abaddon). I wasn't even thinking of the remote possibility of actually having abbadon as a hero.
Its similar to imagine what you would do if you won the lottery, it will probably never happen but its fun to think about.