New Hero, M.O.X. the Golem

Konig Des Todes

Konig Des Todes

Ooo, pretty flower

Join Date: Jan 2008

Citadel of the Decayed

The Archivists' Sanctum [Lore]

N/

Due to "the ultimate in magic" phrase and that golems can be warrior, dervish, or elementalists in the game already, I'm guessing his profession will be what Razah's was meant to be *and should be changed to*. All of them.

ANet better give a FREE alternative additional hero for those who already own all 4 games, because not only is that only offered in Europe, but it's a kick in the nuts to veteran players like everyone has said. They may add him to the in-game store for those who don't want to buy the whole game set, but for those who have actually payed their fair share, they should get something free, even if it is just Razah being turned into a Variable profession.

*Wouldn't mind seeing Master of Whispers being turned into a Ritualist to replace Razah if he gets turned into a variable profession.*

StormDragonZ

StormDragonZ

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jan 2008

New York

W/R

Quote:
Includes Exclusive Golem Hero! The Complete Collection includes M.O.X. the Golem, the ultimate in magic, mechanised party protection!
So a Ritualist, right?

Then again, it most likely will be... um... I still go with Ritualist.

Meat Axe

Meat Axe

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jan 2007

Brisbane, Australia

R/

Quote:
Originally Posted by TaCktiX
As for Mox's profession, I wouldn't be surprised if we finally got that variable profession hero Razah was supposed to be.

And it had better be available via in game store post de facto, else ANet will be pissing in the face of all their veteran players.
I was thinking it might be a variable profession hero as well, hence the phrase "the ultimate in magic, mechanised party protection". I wouldn't say another monk hero (protection) would exactly be "ultimate". Of course, I could be looking too far into this. It could just be ultimate because it's a GOLEM.

Anyway, I see no reason to get all up in arms about it until we know more about the details of the hero. Why would anyone need another hero of a certain profession? Personally, I'll wait for more details, and if it is a variable profession hero, than I will wait a few months for any news on it being sold seperately in the in-game store, and if not, I'll just decide then whether it's worth the money to buy the package.

SpiritThief

SpiritThief

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jan 2008

R/Me

Better be some sort of quest or something for everyone else to get him.

Winterclaw

Winterclaw

Wark!!!

Join Date: May 2005

Florida

W/

I would have rather seen a female El hero added... Doubt I'd buy it mostly because if I need a mule or another PC I can buy a slot real cheap.

credit

credit

Banned

Join Date: Jan 2008

Team Apathy [aFk]

W/P

I sincerely hope that ANET wouldn't be stupid enough to make the only way of obtaining "M.O.X" by buying the ultimate collection.

But this is ANET...

pumpkin pie

pumpkin pie

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Jul 2006

behind you

bumble bee

E/

this is like all credit card merchants, apply today and we give you XXX for free, leaving the rest of the credit card holders who already have the credit card never see XXX ever !!!!

Kikuta

Kikuta

Banned

Join Date: Jan 2006

Western Australia

[ICE]

I might buy one just so I can start again completely, but still have all campaigns... More characters too

Zahr Dalsk

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Aug 2007

Canada

Why are they adding another hero, bringing the total to 26, and still limiting us to three at a time?

I don't understand.

(By the way, it would be neat if they added a Chronomancer hero, who could use some of the skills that the Chronomancer was going to have before Utopia was scrapped in favor of Eye of the Grind. But letting us use a full hero party is more important by far.)

Konig Des Todes

Konig Des Todes

Ooo, pretty flower

Join Date: Jan 2008

Citadel of the Decayed

The Archivists' Sanctum [Lore]

N/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Zahr Dalsk
(By the way, it would be neat if they added a Chronomancer hero, who could use some of the skills that the Chronomancer was going to have before Utopia was scrapped in favor of Eye of the Grind.
I'll /sign for that. And if ANet says the Chronomancer will be in GW2, which I doubt, it would serve as a fun "preview" to it.

I actually can see Chronomancer being an Asura-only profession due to the whole techno-look they had. None-the-less, /sign for Chronomancer hero, /sign for variable profession hero, /sign for removal of hero limit (or more then 3 heroes).

Lady Lozza

Lady Lozza

Forge Runner

Join Date: Dec 2005

Oz

Angel Sharks

Me/N

To be honest, M.O.X sounds like it might be a golem. And you will be able to set them to melee, ranged, or defence.

FoxBat

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Apr 2006

Amazon Basin [AB]

Mo/Me

AKA totally useless if they take up a hero slot. (But maybe they won't...)

vaxmor

vaxmor

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Dec 2005

Ascalon

R/

guys this is really simple, QQ moar on GWG and then just wait to ANet release the 'exclusive' hero on the online shop.

simple.

effective.

and its worked before.

Lykan

Lykan

Forge Runner

Join Date: May 2005

StP

R/

3 Games + Gwen for £25. Nice

New hero? Meh /care

/waitsfortheQQomgitsnotfairiwantanewherotoo thread to appear

Dimitri_Stucoff

Academy Page

Join Date: Dec 2006

As said before I do hope they do give this to their loyal players who already have all four games for free. If not I will seriously consider not getting Guild Wars 2. They already have done questionable business practices such as releasing unfinished product and declaring "bugs" "features". Things like the lack of DoA when Nightfall was released, or the inability to max your titles. Razah, our multi-profession ritualist. Or taking it back even further Urgoz and the Deep not being in with Factions release. However, on the flip side of things Anet has given us some nice stuff. More storage, character choosing without logging out, adding new items to the game from time to time, weekend events, are just a few.

It is not so much I want the hero, and am not saying it is fair or not, but more of the principle. Rewarding new players to come to the game without rewarding your current player base for sticking with the game seems like a slap to the face. That is of course if they want to build up consumer loyalty. I mean who wants customers who would rush out to the stores to buy a game the first day without reading the reviews picking the game's flaws apart and ultimately deciding against it before even trying? (Because this is what I have been forced to do as of late due to the shady practices of companies rushing their games out of the door in a pre-beta stage and expecting their customers to stick around and test it for them while they pray they can fix the issues and actually get the game to run on the computer in a reasonable state)

Mr. Undisclosed

Mr. Undisclosed

I phail

Join Date: Mar 2007

Phailville

D/

Quote:
Originally Posted by DarkNecrid
If you check the product page, it only costs 25$.

Definitely worth it if you want a secondary account.
*£25

£25=like $50

sph0nz

sph0nz

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: May 2005

none.

W/

Quote:
Originally Posted by underverse_ninja
Won't waste my money.
Same; it's not as if I need another hero anyways. But I suppose it would be nice to have this new one.

I Will Heal You Ally

I Will Heal You Ally

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Feb 2007

In my HoM

Canthan Refugees [TOGO]

E/Rt

it would be easier if they made a quest for obtaining one thought all 4 campaigns like the moa chick... why would I buy another ele hero when I already have 3... to put it on my 4th slot?

street peddler

street peddler

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Apr 2007

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZiapRKY9rpY

zwei2stein

zwei2stein

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Jun 2006

Europe

The German Order [GER]

N/

Quote:
Originally Posted by TaCktiX
As for Mox's profession, I wouldn't be surprised if we finally got that variable profession hero Razah was supposed to be.

And it had better be available via in game store post de facto, else ANet will be pissing in the face of all their veteran players.
Golems are know for being able to change their profession (Oolas Golem 2.0)

Paragon is not out of question either (description would fit well.). And if profession is not variable, i don't see it being anything else than D / A / Rt /P / Me which miss third hero.

Anyhow, they'd better provide way to get it in ingame store. If anything, just out of principle as not to hurt feelings of veterans, and to prevent guaranteed whines.

One thing was to buy next campaign to get BMP. Another thing is to basically buy whole game over again.

Xebedinct

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jan 2008

Soviet Jersey

Not worth it at all. I wouldn't pay a single dollar just for an extra hero.

Zahr Dalsk

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Aug 2007

Canada

I'd pay 20-40 dollars to unlock the ability to use a full hero party. I feel that that unlock alone would be worth more than EotN was, personally. Food for thought, Anet, food for thought.

Xebedinct

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jan 2008

Soviet Jersey

Quote:
Originally Posted by Zahr Dalsk
I'd pay 20-40 dollars to unlock the ability to use a full hero party. I feel that that unlock alone would be worth more than EotN was, personally. Food for thought, Anet, food for thought.
You forget that some people like the socialism and constant failing.

Zahr Dalsk

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Aug 2007

Canada

Quote:
Originally Posted by Xebedinct
You forget that some people like the socialism and constant failing.
They can still fail as much as they like - we who don't play with them anyways, will continue to avoid them.

shoyon456

shoyon456

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jul 2006

D/

Quote:
Originally Posted by TaCktiX
As for Mox's profession, I wouldn't be surprised if we finally got that variable profession hero Razah was supposed to be.
I believe this will be the case, as GOLEM's aren't actual ppl, and it would make sense that his profession will be changable.

For all those immediately QQ'ing about the fact that this only comes with the new set... Guess what?, there are already more heros than you can use if you've unlocked them all! 3 monks, 2 rits, etc... and multiple heros of EVERY class!

Personally I don't care. I say GO FOR IT ANET! Because all "veteran" players seem to complain the loudest. The only reason this would matter even the LEAST is if they allowed full hero parties at a later date. And even then... There are enough heros already of each type to have a balanced hero team.

Good move on anet's part, especially if it forces "veteran" players to buy another account just because its something they don't have. Even if its insignificant.

Gregslot

Gregslot

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Aug 2006

Me/

Maybe its not the Asuran golem?
At the pictures of Utopia we can see many structures that look like a golem.

cosyfiep

cosyfiep

are we there yet?

Join Date: Dec 2005

in a land far far away

guild? I am supposed to have a guild?

Rt/

25 heroes....do we really really need any more????????

Faer

Faer

La-Li-Lu-Le-Lo

Join Date: Feb 2006

Quote:
Originally Posted by Azazel The Assassin
ANet better give a FREE alternative additional hero for those who already own all 4 games, because not only is that only offered in Europe, but it's a kick in the nuts to veteran players like everyone has said.
As if they care.

Seriously.

fenix

fenix

Major-General Awesome

Join Date: Aug 2005

Aussie Trolling Crew HQ - Event Organiser and IRC Tiger

Ex Talionis [Law], Trinity of the Ascended [ToA] ????????????????&#

W/

Anet need to stop being dumb and just set it at 2 heroes of each type, and then let us use 7 heroes. 26 heroes is stupid when you can only use 3.

Lady Raenef

Lady Raenef

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Feb 2007

Oregon, USA.

Zero Mercy [zm]

W/

WTB Hero Pack for $5.

Dervish - Unspecified - M.O.X. The Golem
Ritualist - Female - Mehru (Jade Brotherhood)
Mesmer - Female - Kassandra (Crimson Skull)
Paragon - Male - Jebediah (Paragon off the GW Box Art)
Assassin - Male - Rykker (Tengu)



Also, organize our friggin hero menu by PROFESSION.

1 up and 2 down

1 up and 2 down

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Mar 2007

Rt/

Sounds interesting. I seriously hope there is some other way to get it besides that complete game set.

Gregslot

Gregslot

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Aug 2006

Me/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Lady Raenef
WTB Hero Pack for $5.

Dervish - Unspecified - M.O.X. The Golem
Ritualist - Female - Mehru (Jade Brotherhood)
Mesmer - Female - Kassandra (Crimson Skull)
Paragon - Male - Jebediah (Paragon off the GW Box Art)
Assassin - Male - Rykker (Tengu)



Also, organize our friggin hero menu by PROFESSION.
No! give us a decent male mesmer!!!
Norgu is fat, Gwen is a traumatized little teenager who needs therapy and wears her pijamas to fight crime (just look at her elite armor at eye of the north). I THINK we, the mesmer community, need a decent hero to represent us.

RotteN

RotteN

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jun 2005

W/

yeah, because we realy need more heroes ....

wouldn't even spend 1 cent on an extra hero. I have all the heroes i'll ever need.

WinterSnowblind

WinterSnowblind

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Feb 2007

Would love to be able to buy this guy in the store
Better yet, could we get a Prophecies hero pack, that adds Devona, Mhenlo, etc, as Heroes?

Warriorsrmint

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Mar 2008

W/

Quote:
Originally Posted by draxynnic
That was my first response as well, until I noticed the important inclusion of the word 'exclusive'.
Im pretty sure they said this about the mission pack when until you could buy it in store instead of buying character slots etc.

Warriorsrmint

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Mar 2008

W/

Quote:
Originally Posted by WinterSnowblind
Would love to be able to buy this guy in the store
Better yet, could we get a Prophecies hero pack, that adds Devona, Mhenlo, etc, as Heroes?
Don't give them ideas, they will try to make even more money out of us.

Mitchel

Mitchel

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jan 2007

Almkerk, The Netherlands

P/W

How can they do this?

If they're "busy working on GW"?

Jongo River

Jongo River

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Oct 2006

Quote:
Originally Posted by Warriorsrmint
Im pretty sure they said this about the mission pack when until you could buy it in store instead of buying character slots etc.
I'm certain they didn't. The wording was such that people thought it implied that, but it didn't actually say it.

IIRC, the first real sign we got that the BMP was heading for the store, was when Gaile showed up and pointed out they'd never said "Exclusive" (as some people were starting to assert at the time).

Silly, though. I think far more people would have bought it from the store, than would be willing to buy the whole GW collection again. Still, the pre-order price is pretty good - I spent about that just getting a second copy of Proph+Nightfall, a few months back. Problem is, I imagine that (like me) most people who want a second account, will have one by now.

shoyon456

shoyon456

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jul 2006

D/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Mitchel
How can they do this?

If they're "busy working on GW"?
An implementation of a new hero... isn't that big. We've already seen that the programming is there (GOLEM tonics). And even if he can be multi-profession, anet will probably be using the old coding for it that was intended for Razah.

In essence, its not a big deal.

EDIT To Zehnchu: This skin is already in game, and tbh i think the time it took for anet to come up with all the everlasting tonic skins and set it all up is less than a week (especially since all these skins were already in the game).

And about gw2... I don't know if you've noticed but pretty much every programmer's concern is gw2. Gw1 is being worked on in their spare time and this little "incentive" is no exception. The game will come when it comes. When they come, I suggest you buy SC2 and D3 while you wait.

Zehnchu

Zehnchu

Popcorn Fetish

Join Date: Dec 2005

[GODS]

Mo/Me

Quote:
Originally Posted by shoyon456
Personally I don't care. I say GO FOR IT ANET! Because all "veteran" players seem to complain the loudest.
There is this new game they should be spending all their time on its called Gw2 the more time they waste making useless hero skins or other worthless crap it pushes back the time frame of GW2.

Second I thought they learned their lesson from that huge cluster f--- that happend with Razha.