Tolkano: exchange 5 Tournament Tokens for 1 Zaishen Key

Lex

Lex

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Dec 2005

Can we get this option at Tolkano, please? I have many Tokens from before Zaishen Keys' era and would like to exchange them for Zaishen Keys.

I think it is fair trade to exchange 5 TTokens = 1 ZKey because 1 TToken = 1k FB and 1 ZKey = 5k FB.

falling2grey

Academy Page

Join Date: Jul 2006

Nobody Listens Around Here

W/E

omg when I saw this, I got so excited. I also have tons of tourny tokens

Warriorsrmint

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Mar 2008

W/

It would be a good idea, you can only use Balth Faction and Tourney reward points at the moment.

niek2004

niek2004

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Sep 2007

Afk in Gh.

Old N Dirty[ym] Good Tactics[Good]

P/Rt

For some while PVP players who had UAX had nothing to do with faction other than buying tokens.
This would be the only logical thing to, thats why it won't happen. We all know Anet,

Lykan

Lykan

Forge Runner

Join Date: May 2005

StP

R/

Been requested before, if they were going to they would have by now

Blunt Feather

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Apr 2008

seen lots of people request this, i have lost too

Solas

Solas

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Oct 2006

Ireland

Currently LF Active HA Guild, Glad 2, Comm.3, R2

E/

been requested a few times, if they brought it in on day one i wouldn't mind but its too late imo, lots of peopel have sold there toekns and would be pretty unfair to them.

DarkNecrid

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Jul 2006

Yes, so obviously a Flame of Balthazar should equal 15k.

And tournament tokens should equal 1k each.

But they don't.

Lady Raenef

Lady Raenef

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Feb 2007

Oregon, USA.

Zero Mercy [zm]

W/

I practically gave away my 650 tournament tokens. No, not signed. =]

Kanyatta

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jun 2006

Guildless, pm me

R/Mo

There's absolutely no reason this shouldn't be implemented.

/sign.

Yawgmoth

Yawgmoth

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Apr 2005

I would love it even if it was 10 tokens per key.

And NO, it would NOT be unfair for me, even after I've trashed 7 or 8 full stacks of them, keeping only 1.

It's more about fairness for those who earned them back then and received only stacks of trash. I know, they should have implememted this together with the ZChest update, but in this case it's never too late.

/signed with love.

Lady Raenef

Lady Raenef

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Feb 2007

Oregon, USA.

Zero Mercy [zm]

W/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Kanyatta
There's absolutely no reason this shouldn't be implemented.

/sign.
Can you think of a reason why it should be implemented? I can't. Sell your tokens and buy more zaishen keys.

Lykan

Lykan

Forge Runner

Join Date: May 2005

StP

R/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Lady Raenef
I practically gave away my 650 tournament tokens. No, not signed. =]
Biased votes not needed ty, If i gave you back 650 tokens what would you say then??

Kanyatta

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jun 2006

Guildless, pm me

R/Mo

Quote:
Originally Posted by Lady Raenef
Can you think of a reason why it should be implemented? I can't. Sell your tokens and buy more zaishen keys.
No one wants to buy tournament tokens, because everyone that needs them has like, 2 stacks. You'll be lucky to sell them for 100g each, much less 1k each.

I think it should be implemented, because by NOT having it implemented, it punishes characters who used Tolkano before there were zkeys.

lutz

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Apr 2006

Battery Powered Best Friends [Vibe]

Me/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Kanyatta
No one wants to buy tournament tokens, because everyone that needs them has like, 2 stacks. You'll be lucky to sell them for 100g each, much less 1k each.

I think it should be implemented, because by NOT having it implemented, it punishes characters who used Tolkano before there were zkeys.
The only reason why people bought the Tournament Tokens was because there was nothing else to use the faction on...

It shouldn't be implemented, as it would cause a whole lot of whining for people who lost their Tournament Tokens from giving it away, bla bla bla

Plus, Zaishen Keys should be kept as a new thing, not something that's retroactive.

Ultra Mega

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Aug 2005

OCAU

Mo/Me

Quote:
Originally Posted by Kanyatta
No one wants to buy tournament tokens, because everyone that needs them has like, 2 stacks. You'll be lucky to sell them for 100g each, much less 1k each.

I think it should be implemented, because by NOT having it implemented, it punishes characters who used Tolkano before there were zkeys.

So you think you should be able to trade 5 tokens (500g) for 1 Zkey (5k)?
Tournament tokens are for tournaments, Anet never even hinted at them being used for anything else.
If people got stacks of them just because they could then that is their own fault. I don't think they should be rewarded for stockpiling tournament tokens.

I know the whole situation before the Zkeys with only the tokens to buy because I was in that situation. I didn't buy loads of tokens with my excess faction because I saw no point in it. If implemented this would punish me for not buying loads of tokens.

/notsigned

Div

Div

I like yumy food!

Join Date: Jan 2006

Where I can eat yumy food

Dead Alley [dR]

Mo/R

I'd be up for trading even 25 tokens for a zkey or something. better than having 10 stacks rot in storage and only used when we AT once in a blue moon.

Charlotte the Harlot

Charlotte the Harlot

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jan 2006

Bay Area

none

R/

/sign

no good reason not to

Tearz1993

Tearz1993

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jul 2007

Relentless Aggressors [rA]

R/Mo

/notsigned for 5:1

/signed for a different ratio

Kanyatta

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jun 2006

Guildless, pm me

R/Mo

Quote:
Originally Posted by lutz

It shouldn't be implemented, as it would cause a whole lot of whining for people who lost their Tournament Tokens from giving it away, bla bla bla
If you whine about how you gave something away willingly, you are probably stupid.

Faction-wise, the ratio makes sense, but I would be in favor of 10:1 or 15:1.

I just don't think people should be punished for maxing out their faction earlier than others.

leeky baby

leeky baby

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Nov 2005

Surrey University

Starting to play again... need a guild

W/E

Each token cost 1k balth faction so 5 Tokens = 1 Key would be very fair, iv got about 1000 tokens, which i will never use!

Some sort of trade system needs to be implemented, but ino nothing will... so i dont even know why i am bothering!

Frozy

Frozy

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Dec 2006

Quote:
Originally Posted by leeky baby
Each token cost 1k balth faction so 5 Tokens = 1 Key would be very fair, iv got about 1000 tokens, which i will never use!

Some sort of trade system needs to be implemented, but ino nothing will... so i dont even know why i am bothering!
Trade system? all it takes is a Collector... very easy to implement.
And while i prefer 5:1, 10:1 is good as well.

/signed.

lutz

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Apr 2006

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Kanyatta
If you whine about how you gave something away willingly, you are probably stupid.

Faction-wise, the ratio makes sense, but I would be in favor of 10:1 or 15:1.

I just don't think people should be punished for maxing out their faction earlier than others.
Nobody is being punished. You need to get your terminology straight. You're making it sound a lot worse than it really is.

There's a difference between "punished" and "introducing something that isn't retroactive".

Punished means using hexes against a team with 3 monk smiters with Smite Hex and an HEV. You get punished for using your hexes, and they get neutralized anyway. Punished means you used your Balthazar Faction before the Zaishen Keys AND now you have some consequence - maybe... your account is now bugged and can't purchase Zaishen Keys, or you can't gain any more Balthazar Faction.

However, none of that is the case. People who have tournament tokens are not being restricted from getting Zaishen Keys now. This is like the Survivor title or the Legendary Defender of Ascalon title. It isn't like you can't gain faction or can't gain experience or can't get God Walking Amongst Mere Mortals. It's just a non-retroactive feature. I'm pretty sure ANet intended it this way.

Entreri

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: May 2007

If something like this was implemented then people would have less incentive to do things like AFK in automated tournaments to get some benefit out of their 'worthless' tokens.

The best solution would be to make automated tournaments more fun for the general playerbase. If ATs were more fun then tokens would actually get used and people wouldn't still be trying to pawn off stacks 9 months after z keys got introduced. However, making ATs fun would require more work.

/signed

Dr.Jones

Dr.Jones

Banned

Join Date: Jul 2008

i would like to see this and a 1:1 for bath to rp so people who dont want to do AT or HB can get cool armor for there pvp ch as well.