Ursan Team Reborn

You've swapped Oath Shot for Assassin's Promise. No offense dude, but this isn't rocket science and has been known for about a week already. The easy to grasp concept of the elite being changed isn't what the team build seeks recognition for. It's moreso the combination of the elite into the monk's bar.

Once the monk uses Assassin's Promise once, the idea of being able to spam the seeds and everything else in the bar without worrying about energy is the purpose and idea. Even if the build existed before hand, or people used it in-game, I haven't ever seen it discussed on forums or used by others. It isn't rocket science, but sharing a build we haven't seen before that is and can be very useful is the main intent.

wait till the fix mimic ursan is now a elite form mimc say non-form once they fix that bye bye Wow, did you even read the thread? They don't mimic Ursan, they mimic AP so that Ursan will recharge. You seriously need to get your eyes checked.

I'm honestly so bored of seeing people whine and complain about ursan teams re-forming. Just grow up people and find a guild that will do old school teams. Gez, it's not that damn hard.

I am glad that people are looking for new ways to use Ursan. Why is everyone so determined to make it one of those skills that never sees the light of day. I hope the same kind of whiners are not around for gw2. I can just imagine the amount of crazy posting. Asura are better at x, norn are better at x, char are better at x and we want it all changed.

Honestly it isn't the skills that are making people run from gw, it is the damn whiners. You want to know what those elitist that are all about hating Ursans look like,. Now just imagine that with some screaming about how Ursans have ruined their life. Wait. So does being an elitist make me elite at the game? Thanks. Now I'm not sure where else in the world elitist (literally a person specializing in being elite) would imply a lack of an ability to get ass, earn money, etc. etc. Actually wouldn't an elitist also be more capable of those?

I am glad that people are looking for new ways to use Ursan. Why is everyone so determined to make it one of those skills that never sees the light of day. I hope the same kind of whiners are not around for gw2. I can just imagine the amount of crazy posting. Asura are better at x, norn are better at x, char are better at x and we want it all changed.

Honestly it isn't the skills that are making people run from gw, it is the damn whiners. You want to know what those elitist that are all about hating Ursans look like,. Now just imagine that with some screaming about how Ursans have ruined their life. That image looks more like somebody playing ursan than anything.

How about just let it die and move on? Ursan got the nerf bat already. What if people still want to use it? What are you gonna do about? Why can't everyone just play the damn game and stop worrying about what other people do? Is it that hard a concept to grasp?

It's all about cutting down on the time ppl... Anything under 4 hours might not be such a bad idea... I stood around in GoA for quite a while this weekend but didnt see any teams running this (or the OS version) though. Anyone here tried this? That is the number one reason Ursan was so popular,it significantly cut the time of doing DOA. I was against Ursan at first, but its hard to say no to a Ferrarri when you are driving a Chevy. DOA always could be done before, but it just took a long time both in forming the team, with all the specific roles, and then doing it. Typically before Ursan you only did one segement quest as each took a chunk of time. With Ursan you typically did all, Full Run, in one sitting, 2 hours or less in NM and 2.5 hours in HM.

BTW the old school ways were still available before the Ursan nerf, but no on really used them as it takes very specific builds, so team formation is slowed, and team coordination and Ventrilo or Team Speak is best utilized.

Also with the teams such as Cryway, Ritway, Eleway which all use a OF tank and bonder, SB, and HB monk, you cannot do Mallyx. You can do the 19 groups before Mallyx, but with all the Enchants and Hexes typical of these teams they will not be able to do Mallyx. I guess one could then switch to Ursan and do Mallyx, as I did this with a team after the nerf, so Ursan will work takes a little longer though, because of Mallyx's high AC.

Direct physical teams such as Imbagon and the like teams that do not rely on enchants, but more shouts, chants, echos will do better in general. These teams take good targetting to get the groups down quickly and critical targets down first. Also again there are specific classes and builds that are necessary.

What Ursan offers is the following:
1. Fast DOA
2. Classless damage roles
3. Faster Team formation
4. Simpler team dynamics (really only need to wory about aggro, but now maybe mesmer secondary class and recharge is important)

After the nerf NM Ursan will still work especially if folks use an Assassin Promise Recharge Team (it may take a bit longer because now part of the damage is not armor ignoring). Here Ursans should be secondary Mesmers and take the skills Arcane Mimicry, Arcane Echo, and Mantra of Resolve and when out of Ursan they should mimic Assassin's Promise and Arcane Echo AP and Hex a near death foe and if foe dies then there bar recharges instantly (they get two 5 second chances with Arcane Echo) and they go back int ursan.

The unfortuate thing is DOA is dead at least for now. There are few teams trying to form and fewer folks available to join these teams. What DOA needs is a predomanent team build that everyone gravitates too, so that team formation is quick. The Team Build should be effective and efficient.